The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board > Squarebody Projects and Builds

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-10-2013, 09:07 AM   #26
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Jet wash
Cam bearings.
Freeze plugs
Deck
Block prep
Press pistons
Reconditioning rods
Balance.
This adds up to the 700
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2013, 09:30 AM   #27
Jake Wade
Registered User
 
Jake Wade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 711
Re: Shucks First Build

I assume they are supplying the pistons? Balance job and decking included so, not a bad price at all.

Now is the time to figure what heads(combustion chamber size)you will be using so to get the correct style piston.

If you plan on going with a large chamber head(72-76cc) go with flat tops.

Have your machinist take .020 off the block deck while squaring it up at the same time. You want to keep your piston to head clearance less than .050, preferably .040.

Ask him if he uses a torque plate during the boring/honing process.
Jake Wade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2013, 09:40 AM   #28
Jake Wade
Registered User
 
Jake Wade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 711
Re: Shucks First Build

Here is a good piston choice on a budget.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sl...make/chevrolet
Jake Wade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2013, 08:50 PM   #29
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Unfortunately both of my heads ended up being cracked, but my cousin gave me a set of free heads that'll work.
Well just got everything ordered and was sent to the machine shop. Crank/ Pistons/ rod bolts/ camshaft/ cam bearings/ freeze plugs... shouldn't be too much longer since the blocks been at the shop for about a week.
The crank was delivered to me instead of the machine shop,

Another freebie was this Edelbrock Torker II single plane intake. And that's the completed painted saved parts. The red on the timing color will be the color for the motor.

My 600 Holey came in today.

Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2013, 09:32 PM   #30
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Comp XE256 cam

Rollers

And my project when I can't do anything with my truck for awhile.



Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2013, 09:37 PM   #31
TheBlueBomber
Registered User
 
TheBlueBomber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 816
Re: Shucks First Build

If only I had THAT growing up...
__________________
Austin
1996 Chevrolet K1500 Silverado

1979 Chevrolet K10 Scottsdale - Carolina K10 -

My 4.8L Twin turbo build - Project Short Stroke -

Instagram - TheBlueBomber1996
TheBlueBomber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2013, 09:53 PM   #32
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueBomber View Post
If only I had THAT growing up...
Well here's the one my cousin and I had done awhile back. This one was way too narrow and was basically too scary to drive... But I did anyway
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 09:19 PM   #33
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Okay I really don't have an update other than my motor is back from the machine shop. But I have more of a question.
My question is, in what steps should I do the body and frame? I get focused on suspension parts then I remember I have rust I need to patch up on the cab, then I worry about body work. Then I get focused on what to paint the frame with then I remember I haven't done anything about the suspension, ect.... Should I patch the rust then remove the cab to be ready for paint? Or should I be worried about getting the truck driving and safe on the road first? I just want some advice is all.
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 04:42 PM   #34
Squareforceone
Registered User
 
Squareforceone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Rustville USA or southeast Ia
Posts: 654
Re: Shucks First Build

If i were you i'd get a dual plane intake instead.. Do some research on dual vs single plane intakes. Single is good for the drag strip at higher rpms not so much on the lower end of things on the street.
__________________
Rust is better than rice.
Squareforceone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 10:06 PM   #35
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

I found a shortbed for sale for $500. Are these a direct replacement for a Stepside or does some work need to be done? Also is this a good price? Because not often do you come across shortbeds separate from the truck in good shape. No rust, and is in primer because the guy has done patch work to the bed. I really want to know because I'd like to ditch the stepside.
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 10:37 PM   #36
TheBlueBomber
Registered User
 
TheBlueBomber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 816
Re: Shucks First Build

Haven't done it myself but shouldn't be too hard. Might need to move the gas tank and install a harness for the taillights among other things.
__________________
Austin
1996 Chevrolet K1500 Silverado

1979 Chevrolet K10 Scottsdale - Carolina K10 -

My 4.8L Twin turbo build - Project Short Stroke -

Instagram - TheBlueBomber1996
TheBlueBomber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 10:49 PM   #37
bigblock73
yeller
 
bigblock73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 13,826
Re: Shucks First Build

Nice project, good work so far.

If I were you, I would do the following...

Finish them engine rebuild, get the truck running and driving. Inspect/rebuild the suspension (perhaps drop it at this time), cheap tires/wheels, clean up the interior...and drive it!

I would put the body back together, and keep it a stepside. Enjoy it for a while, then start doing bodywork as you drive it.

Start tearing it apart, and you will likely have it apart for a while, because restos can gt expensive quick....plus you have school to contend with, which is more important.
bigblock73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 11:01 PM   #38
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

You're right. After I posted that and sat and waited I thought of the exact same thing. I get caught up in looking at guys trucks on the forum all torn apart and once its done, they drive it for the first time after a few years...
Thanks for the reply.
The motor is going back together right now (super excited), I found a 700r4 to bolt up to it and then I need to find a new ignition, I bought it without keys...
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014, 11:47 PM   #39
Cape Codder
Registered User
 
Cape Codder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Centerville,Ma.
Posts: 1,223
Re: Shucks First Build

A lock cylinder with keys shouldn't be much more that 20.00. It's not that difficult to install.
Cape Codder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 03:11 AM   #40
TheBlueBomber
Registered User
 
TheBlueBomber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 816
Re: Shucks First Build

Bigblock73 is right. When I was 16 I bought a 79 K5 (which started my square body addiction) and I started tearing into anything and everything. I got so caught up in doing multiple projects that it just sat for a while and I lost interest. I learned from my mistakes and am a lot more calculated in the projects that I do. I'm still learning myself after all these years. Make sure you have fun with it and enjoy every bit of it.
__________________
Austin
1996 Chevrolet K1500 Silverado

1979 Chevrolet K10 Scottsdale - Carolina K10 -

My 4.8L Twin turbo build - Project Short Stroke -

Instagram - TheBlueBomber1996
TheBlueBomber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 10:55 AM   #41
aggie91
I'm just glad to be here!
 
aggie91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
Re: Shucks First Build

STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # US107LT CHROME FINISH for the lock cylinder. I think is is about $9 on RockAuto.com.

Fairly easy swap. Since you don't have the key, I think you may need to remove the steering wheel, lock plate, and turnsignal switch assembly just to get to it. It is not hard work at all.

I'll see if I can find a written guide for you...
__________________
Karl



1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424

The LST Challenge:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257

Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn"
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618

1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305

Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square
aggie91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014, 12:06 PM   #42
aggie91
I'm just glad to be here!
 
aggie91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 4,788
Re: Shucks First Build

Here is the repair guide that I found:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/rep...96b43f80cb0c97

If your not a member at AutoZone, its free and offers a lot of good reference material...


REMOVAL & INSTALLATION


1973-78 Vehicles

See Figure 1



Fig. Fig. 1: Ignition lock cylinder removal - 1973-78 vehicles

1.Remove steering wheel and turn signal switch.


It is not necessary to completely remove the turn signal switch. Pull the switch over the end of the shaft; no further.

2.Place lock cylinder in RUN position.


Do not remove the ignition key buzzer.

3.Insert a small drift pin into the turn signal housing slot. Keeping the drift pin to the right side of the slot, break the housing flash loose and depress the spring latch at the lower end of the lock cylinder. Remove the lock cylinder.




WARNING
Considerable force may be necessary to break this casting flash, but be careful not to damage any other parts. When ordering a new lock cylinder, specify a cylinder assembly. This will save assembling the cylinder, washer, sleeve and adapter.

To install:

4.Hold the lock cylinder sleeve and rotate the knob clockwise against the stop.
5.Insert the cylinder into the housing, aligning the key and keyway.
6.Hold a 0.070 in. drill between the lock bezel and housing. Rotate the cylinder counterclockwise, maintaining a light pressure until the drive section of the cylinder mates with the sector.
7.Push in until the snapring pops into the grooves. Remove drill. Check cylinder operation.


The drill prevents forcing the lock cylinder inward beyond its normal position. The buzzer switch and spring latch can hold the lock cylinder in too far. Complete disassembly of the upper bearing housing is necessary to release an improperly installed lock cylinder.

1979 Vehicles

See Figure 2



Fig. Fig. 2: Ignition lock cylinder removal and installation - 1979 vehicles

1.Remove the steering wheel, as outlined earlier in this section.
2.Remove the turn signal switch. It is not necessary to completely remove the switch from the column. Pull the switch rearward far enough to slip it over the end of the shaft, but do not pull the harness out of the column.
3.Turn the lock to RUN .
4.Remove the lock retaining screw and remove the lock cylinder.




WARNING
If the retaining screw is dropped on removal, it may fall into the column, requiring complete disassembly of the column to retrieve the screw.


5.To install, rotate the key to the stop while holding onto the cylinder.
6.Push the lock all the way in.
7.Install the screw. Tighten the screw to 3 ft. lbs. (4.1 Nm) for regular columns, or to 2 ft. lbs. (2.7 Nm) for tilt columns.
8.Install the turn signal switch and the steering wheel.
__________________
Karl



1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424

The LST Challenge:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257

Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn"
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618

1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305

Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square

Last edited by aggie91; 01-10-2014 at 12:24 PM. Reason: added photos/pictures
aggie91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2014, 01:06 AM   #43
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Thanks for the write up, I got one from advanced, will be putting it in soon.
Got the motor all put together. Truck comes into the shop monday, will get a front end rebuild and cleaned/painted frame, I should have some updates later on in the month, Just trying to keep my thread alive.
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2014, 09:41 AM   #44
Zane M
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SLC, UT
Posts: 706
Re: Shucks First Build

Great progress so far!

I think once you get a chance to drive it, you are going to end up re-thinking the use of the single plane manifold(but I understand free is good).

Single planes aren't as good as a dual plane in the lower RPM ranges for producing torque and HP. Being a street truck with what seems a mildly built engine, it may feel like a dog until you really open it up to higher RPMs.

At any rate, congrats that the engine is together. Hoping you will be driving soon.
Zane M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2014, 06:17 PM   #45
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

I understand and thank you for the input. But free has gotten the best of me and will use it until I need or want a new one.
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2014, 10:38 PM   #46
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Finally got a guy from work to bring the rollback to my house and get the truck from its grave and bring it into the shop. Snagged a set of free rallies and tires and it already looks 2x better, just gets me more and more motivated to finish it. Last weekend I bought a stepside bed for the truck for 300 bucks. Came with new wood and a tailgate, which I didnt have in the first place. I thought it was a good deal.
So today I got the truck in, put the new wheels and tires on, got the front clip off, and the body mounts off, the cab should come off tomorrow.

I also had to run long tubes because the shorties hit the motor mounts, it was a straight across trade to a guy for the long tubes so I said, "Sure!" Even though they aren't the prettiest things in the world.

Now since its in the shop, updates will come more frequently!
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 09:05 AM   #47
haybale
Registered User
 
haybale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Tuttle OK
Posts: 49
Re: Shucks First Build

Looking really good. Keep at it and you'll have a killer truck.
haybale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 10:11 AM   #48
truckfan
Senior Member
 
truckfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lawrence KS
Posts: 821
Re: Shucks First Build

my son goes to LHS and I saw this sitting there this week. very cool. good luck with the build!
__________________
1981 Chevy C30 440 Holmes 42K one owner miles
truckfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 11:10 AM   #49
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

Cool! Thanks man, since I have to stay busy in the class for the grade, a lot will get done hopefully. I need to figure out what to do with the frame once the cab is off. Either wire wheel it at school then paint it there or to take it home and sandblast. Also what paint to use that's cheap yet durable.
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014, 09:15 PM   #50
Shucks
Registered User
 
Shucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Posts: 229
Re: Shucks First Build

My 79 is looking rather, bare.



What do you guys recommend for a front end rebuild kit and for body mounts?
Shucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com