My 56 6bt 4X4 build.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

No problem. Yep the Corvette is mine too. You should be fine not boxing your frame. I've seen a few old chevys with big power 5.9's and the frames take it. LOL on the paint detuning it. Nice helpers too! Be sure to check the KDP before you button the engine all up.

I vote yes for frame boxing! hows this guy gonna say anything about paint? he squirted ford blue on his cummins in a chevy! hahaha

[6BT 56]

Eng almost ready to come out . It gets picked up tomorrow am . That will be nice to get a bit of cash this time of year . Got my helpers out tonite so things are going well.


Here is a few more pics .

[argonaut]

Cute kid and beautiful Shepard! The truck is pretty sweet too! Can't wait to see a cummins in there.

[6BT 56]

Well . The Cummins is out of the donor. What a dirty mess. Have a buddy with a mobile hot water pressure washer that is going to come by and clean it all after x mass.

Now to lug the Ram out to the back of the farm . I will torch the diff's out there and just cary back up to the shop with the tractor.

The 235 out of the 56 left Sat am. time to block it up nice and square and pull the last remaining Napco stuff out. It leaves Ja 2nd.

Once the Cummins is clean I'll drop the T/C and to a few test fits to see what I have gotten my self in to . Will post a few more pics when I have a moment to sit down.

I hope everyone Has a Merry Christmas.

[Dieselwrencher]

Well I hope you enjoyed your wedding.

[Luther Grimace]

I like your old car. It looks a lot like this one I have seen before. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/212157...vrolet-malibu/

By the way I have the pictures of that steering shaft but I haven't loaded it up yet. I will post it for you soon.
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[6BT 56]

Hi Luther

Thanks for the comments . I miss that car a lot. Basically , I wasnt driving it much. I built It before I bought this farm. Lived in i neighbourhood all pavement. Got this place and now I have 2 km of dirt road to make it in or out. We are suppost to get pavament this summer. The guy who bought the car off me has it forsale again too. For much less than he paid for it . If we get paved maby I will go knock on his door.....

That green one you sent the link for was nice . Almost Identical stance , and wheels.


As for the steering , looking forward to the pics. Inparticular the 55 column end .

Hope you and your family has a great x mass.

[6BT 56]

A few more pics . Man that Cummins looks bigger on the floor !

Its going in tho so let the fun begin.

Here is link to a fun Video . Lots more HP than mine will ever have but what

Im looking for in the end .

55 chevy cummins-killer burnout - YouTube

[Dieselwrencher]

Yes they look really big on the floor. And it's a lot more fun to do burn outs with out holding the brakes.

[6BT 56]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Yes they look really big on the floor. And it's a lot more fun to do burn outs with out holding the brakes.

Hey diesel wrencher . You seem to be real sharp on the Cummins stuff. On the fuel shut off sol , I need to apply a constant 12V to keep eng running correct? I figure you will know. Also do you think I would be asking for trouble if I used the holes in the front of the block on the sides to make my mounts ? I ask this becouse the 55 to 59 frames Have a nice solid crossmember up front and the old 6cyl's mounted off the front. I figure I could make a nice strong angle bracket , bolt it up to frame and maby use Inboard boat eng mounts. It's how we mount the 5.9's in the boats for inboard applications . Figure it should work for me .... Maby....

Let me know your thoughts on this .

Thanks

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by 6BT 56

Hey diesel wrencher . You seem to be real sharp on the Cummins stuff. On the fuel shut off sol , I need to apply a constant 12V to keep eng running correct? I figure you will know. Also do you think I would be asking for trouble if I used the holes in the front of the block on the sides to make my mounts ? I ask this becouse the 55 to 59 frames Have a nice solid crossmember up front and the old 6cyl's mounted off the front. I figure I could make a nice strong angle bracket , bolt it up to frame and maby use Inboard boat eng mounts. It's how we mount the 5.9's in the boats for inboard applications . Figure it should work for me .... Maby....

Let me know your thoughts on this .

Thanks

ill toss in my two cents until the other Ryan gets here. I would not run a 6bt off the front mount area and the normal transfer case/transmission mount. that is leaving ALL of the weight of the engine and transmission levered on the aluminum bell housing. that is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1300 pounds. it will have a tendency to loosen the BH bolts and crack the housing. in the boats i assume that the drive they bolt up to is rather strong and sturdily mounted very close to the flywheel housing.

you are correct on the solenoid. 12v to open the solenoid and supply fuel, cut the 12v supply and it cuts the fuel.

Ryan

[6BT 56]

I cant take your advice . You went and put a body on top of that beautiful frame !!

I went thru your build last nite . Didnt get to bed till 2 ! Your fab work is amazing !

I would just put a bucket seat on top of that and drive it around to show off.

I had the same concerns you did abt the bellhousing . That's why I was looking for more input. Thinking I still may use a boat eng mount just fab brackets in the center in orriginal position.

My fab work is now where close to yours. I need to fab in 90 deg angels .

Hey while I have you do you know where the oil pressure sender is ? Im sure I can find it but I just thot I would ask .

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by 6BT 56

I cant take your advice . You went and put a body on top of that beautiful frame !!
Haha. i hope one day to have a nice looking body on it!
I went thru your build last nite . Didnt get to bed till 2 ! Your fab work is amazing !
i do that too, find build thread and stay up past my bedtime just to check it out
I would just put a bucket seat on top of that and drive it around to show off.

I had the same concerns you did abt the bellhousing . That's why I was looking for more input. Thinking I still may use a boat eng mount just fab brackets in the center in orriginal position.

My fab work is now where close to yours. I need to fab in 90 deg angels .
its mostly functional, i didn't spend as much time finishing as i could have, if i ever do a show type rig, then ill really spend time trying to make it perfect. i think mounting in both locations is a cool idea. that would make the engine sit in the frame by itself. then tranny swaps and clutch jobs would be that much easier. the only issue is the a/c compressor, assuming you are using it. the mount for that and the lower water outlet uses the right side mount area in front.

patience is virtue when fabricating. no matter what level you or your tools are at, a little extra time can make the difference between a well fitted part and something kind of ugly.
Hey while I have you do you know where the oil pressure sender is ? Im sure I can find it but I just thot I would ask .

ill attach a picture of the oil pressure sender on my 2nd gen 12v. i bet its the same on your 1st gen engine but i may be wrong





its the little fitting/electrical connector behind the PS pump on the block

[6BT 56]

These are the mounts I was considdering using .

[ryanroo]

I get where you are at on the mounts, sometimes my brain is a little slow...

you can use a non HB steering pump. there may be a some flow/pressure issues with that but that is an easy fix with the flow orifice and pressure spring in the pump. literally a half hour to up the pressure and flow with the pump in the truck. i've used non HB pump with HB and had no issues before, so it may not matter either way. if you have a non HB pump you have to either add a return port to the can for the HB or Tee the steering box return. both ways work. i plan on adding a return port to the can on mine, or finding a pump from 1st gen 24v truck that had HB and use that.

my truck is no where near running. i just got started doing rust repair on the cab a few weekends ago, and i am slow in making progress. my garage is cold and i am lazy! hope to get the cab to the blaster and then to the paint/finish body guy in january. then the fenders and doors. then the bed. the paint is being done one area at a time so i dont have to swallow the whole bill at once. i still need to get a wiring harness, lift pump and torque converter and rebuild the dana 60 before i can think about it being a runner. and i think i am going to use the green and white bed on the parts truck and use a different bed i found locally on the diesel. but there is some bartering/fabrication i have to do before that happens, so....

Ryan

[6BT 56]

Going to be nice when done. For what it is worth I used a American auto wire harness in my 56 1st time around . It was a super product and super easy to install. Detailed instructions helped a lot !!!. Had a lot of opitinal upgrades available as well.

[6BT 56]

So alittle more progress today .

The best tool I own is blue and way too big to fit in my tool box. Ca you guess what it is ?????

[6BT 56]

Now I can get to work cleaning these up and replaceing some well worn front end parts .

[6BT 56]

Anyone into lowered Dodges ???? Some call it in the weeds . Today it's in the snow .

[Wheelie]

This will be a cool project to watch. My daily is an 06 cummins ram 2500 HD with a ton of mods. Definitely can smoke the tires like all hell too especially when pulling a trailer.

[duallyjams]

Orange has my vote.

[Luther Grimace]

Looks like you have made some pretty good progress! I am ready to see it suffed in there. Do you think you could use the Dodge engine crossmember? It seems like it would bolt up if the frame is tall enough. It is 4 rivets on each side. I hope to be putting up some more pictures tomorrow. I got my core support painted and installed. Hope to get the radiator hooked up tomorrow afternoon possibly. Did you ever decide on the tires?

PS I like that Big Blue Beast to move stuff around with!

[6BT 56]

Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

Looks like you have made some pretty good progress! I am ready to see it suffed in there. Do you think you could use the Dodge engine crossmember? It seems like it would bolt up if the frame is tall enough. It is 4 rivets on each side. I hope to be putting up some more pictures tomorrow. I got my core support painted and installed. Hope to get the radiator hooked up tomorrow afternoon possibly. Did you ever decide on the tires?

PS I like that Big Blue Beast to move stuff around with!

Hi luther

Got everything powerewashed up today . Cleaned up quite nice . My 60 F is going to need kingpin bushings and brakes and u joints . Going to splash some paint on it and bolt in it first tho . This will make eng location easier so I can see oil pan clearence issues . I looked into the dodge crossmember after I saw how you relocated yours. The Gm frame is wider tho. Going to measure again tho. Maby can use after I box the front frame . For wheels Im going to get a set of 235 85 16 BFG AT likely. On the dodge orriginal steel wheels , unless the gm cap dont fit then I will use GM wheels .

I have the painted version of these caps , but these are what I'm really looking for .

Any body Got ?????

[Dieselwrencher]

On the engine mounting, you can mount it off the front, but you will have to mount it on either side of the bell housing. This is how the medium duty trucks and semis are. The transmission just hangs there, or has a support hanger in the rear. I tried doing this in a 92 ford, and it was just too awkward to make functional I bailed on it. Boxing the frame won't hurt anything. That guy in Co keeps pushing it, and I'm going to box part of my frame too. (Someday)

[Luther Grimace]

Those caps are awesome. What do they come off of?
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