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Re: Gas Mileage is poor
Mine is a 72 long bed, 350 and 700r4 trans with 3.08 gears it gets me 15 mpg everyday with the occasional 16 mpg every now and then; but i have the TPI fuel injection system from a 1989 corvette (that was the donor for the engine and trans),
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I know my 52's and 53's all had taller tires in the rear. And my Dad's 65 also. It did make the speedometer off by a couple of mph. And, I think Your Dad is correct.
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my 72 Cheyenne Super LWB has a 350 4V TH350. I hauled some garbage to the dump and had it weighed before and after. With me and very little gas and empty, it was well over 4,000 lbs. I get 9-10 running around town. I thought that was pretty bad but was talking to buddy who has a newer Tundra. He says it gets the same 9-10 mpg. AND it was recalled to get the frame replaced!
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just to chime in, I'm gettin about 12 city and 17-19 hwy if my calculations are correct with a 350 and .308 in the rear withh a 700r4 on my 68 gmc stepside but after reading what everyone else is getting I'm not so sure anymore haha
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If gasoline prices were at least$ 2.50 a gallon, I'm sure that nobody will worry, by modifications we do is almost impossible to make our trucks have more performance. I already I convinced that my truck is like a toy for my. I have a 305, Rochester4 bbl, headers, 700r4 transmission, 3.42 rear end and yields only 11-12 per gallon.Last what I intend to do is: change to 350 engine, and 3.73 rear end ratio, and only because I want to convert it to rear disc brakes, hope to win another 2 miles.
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Good question for those who have 3.73 ratio.
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With the OD tranny I don't think the gear change will be a factor. going to more cubic inches probably would hurt more.
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My point is that you can't cheap laws of physics and have both worlds. Modern technology fairly good MPG numbers in the newest pickups, and you'll read in a magazine where someone has a super sophisticated engine in an older pickup that gets 20+ MPG. I rate a 250 six banger in the somewhat under powered class. possibly w/ some super tuning, fine adjustment and massaging of your carb, you might be able to get a little bit better MPG from your ride. What type of carb do you have now? What kind of a carb is that Holley??? If the engine is original, ring seal and such may be getting weaK. Have you ever performed a compression test? 11-1/2 MPG's is not a bad number, my opinion... |
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Swapping out the 350 SBC w/ a Holley (poorly tuned), 465 trans and 4.10 Dana that's getting about 5-8 MPG for a 305 TPI, a 2.95/.63 T5 in the '69 GMC C2500. There's a good chance that mileage will be better. If it's not good enough, then I'll swap out the rear end gears for something more economical. This truck will get run around town and in the Foothills a bit. The '72 C10 Cheyenne (402/QJet/TH400) will get the LSx and OD automatic. That should improve the solid 10 MPG it's getting.
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It does sound high but then again my brother gets about that with his 305 v6. Granted he just drives it to school and back.
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Motors is tuned very well. I've spent a great deal of time on timing and tuning. Carb (Edelbrock 1406) is tuned well, recently rebuilt. One thing I did notice was, the plugs that were in the motor were .35 gap AC Delco. I swapped those out for Bosch Split V's gapped at .45 and it ran much better. Not necessarily MPG, but just idled better and was a snap to tune to the motor. Coming back from Lubbock yesterday afternoon, I decided to just take it easy and keep the truck at 55 MPH. At 55 MPH, I'm at around 2750 RPM. I normally drive at 65. Gas mileage was considerably better. I normally have to stop in a town about 45 miles from home to refill with 1/8th tank left. This time, I was able to make it all the way back on one tank. 13.8 MPG. Really need to get an overdrive to drop the RPM down and be able to drive at reasonable speeds. The only good thing about driving that slow is, I never have to pass anyone!
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Yet another mpg thread lol. 12mpg with a 250 is about what I used to average with a freshly rebuilt 250 in a 69c10 I used to own. It had 3.73's and 3ott. Best I ever got was 16.5 cruising at 60mph on flat ground with no wind. Im currently running a tired smog era 454 in my Burb and getting close to 12mpg on the highway with 8 in town. My take on it, like others have said, is a 250 is really underpowered in these trucks. A 350 will get as good or better mileage and be much funner to drive.
If you like to tinker you may be able to improve your mileage with a dialed in HEI. Add a electric or clutch style fan and build a cold air intake. Lots of idears on here for maximizing mpg. Just remember at the end of the day its still a heavy brick with aerodynamics akin to a Westinghouse and old technology. Mileage will only get so good.
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Before i started to do any mods, i would first try some different driving styles and routes, assuming the vehicle had a good tune-up. Get a good baseline, then change one thing at a time, starting with lowest cost items. Ultimately you are looking for your vehicles sweet spot. The point where fuel consumption and torque play nicely together. Remember you are moving a brick, so fuel consumption is going to be max at takeoff, and should drop at the sweet spot. And remember, like any good engineering project, it requires many data points.
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I had only heard of economaster 4 bbl carbs, just wondering.
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I got a 71 K20, that gets 13-14 highway. It's lifted 4", has 4.10 gears, 33" tires, TH350, a MILD 350 with a Qjet and HEI. Not too bad if you ask me.
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I love the honesty in this thread ! I will also join the 10-12 mpg club in my 67 C20. Now my 68 suburban has a 327 holly economaster 450cfm3:73 s I added a gear vendors but it didn't change much other than driver comfort. . It does get a solid 18mpg to a us gallon. I have no idea why the engine was built in 1982. Just not going to touch it.
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You know what, I bought that Holley for my 69 Dodge 318. Now that you mention it, I bet it won't fit on the Chevy with the monojet. I don't know much about carb interchange (obviously), but, you think it can't be used?
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My '71 C20 longbed started with a 350/350 with 411 gears, and got a consistent 10-11 MPG. Now it is a 350/2004R with the same gears and still gets a consistent 10-11 MPG. I only drive it about 2000-3000 miles per year, so I don't fill it up very often.
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When I purchased my 72 the PO had replaced the 6 with a small block 400 and a 350 trans. 10mpg pretty much was all it would get. Changed the engine for a ZZ4 350 and 700r4 with 3.73 rear. It's now getting about 16 on the highway with and engine that's not broken in and hasn't yet been filled with Mobil 1. Hoping I'll end up with around 17 when it get's a little looser.
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Anyone who bought one of these old trucks with any gas mileage concerns is barking up the wrong tree. And any comments about Hondas and Prius or whatever gas mileage they get are irrelevant. I would walk before I'd drive either of those anywhere. Fuel up and ride!
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Am I the only one that keeps track of these things?
Those 1.8 mpg to 4.5 mpg tanks were winter tanks of gas where I plow my driveway and drive out to the fish house. That type of use involves lots of backing up, lots of idling, lots of engine running time with the odometer not advancing. The graph is from excel. If I add a trendline it looks like I started out a touch over 10 mpg and now average a touch under 8 mpg. If I take a trip in the summer, not pulling my boat, I get 13. My worst tank ever was 1.49 last winter. The winter from he!!. I didn't make it through the winter on my seat tank plus one saddle tank. I had to pour in FIVE 6 gallon jerry cans (I don't drive the truck on the salted roads in the winter).
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