Calling all Tremec owners

[rideblue00]

I havent given up on the TKO yet. Im tryin to see what i can sell to finance the TKO, lol!

[Heater63]

GMR-Perf had a good picture showing shifter location, but I thought I would detail it a little better. If you draw a line straight across your front cab bolts in the floor (the blue tape in the pic), you will see the mid shift location is 8" aft of that line, and the stock rear shifter location would be about 13 1/2" aft. That should give a you a real good idea of what would work with your seats.

[rideblue00]

Thats a good picture you got there. Really helpful. Am i see that correctly? : you are using the stock belhousing and clutch setup+ the Hyd T.O. bearing? Because that would seriously cut down in my cost. I was thinking i needed to buy a bell and clutch setup.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

He is using a slave not a hyd to bearing. the slave is pushing on the clutch fork. BTW did you buy that bracket of make it ?? what size bore is the slave ? Did the stock b housing work with out alignment dowels? As the TKO is very picky on that.. he he

[Heater63]

Yes, that is a stock '63 cast iron bellhousing. As GMC said, I am using a regular throw out bearing. The hydraulic slave, bracket, and fork are from Novak adapters (they do lots of Jeep stuff) It's a little pricey, but a neat install. The only thing you have to do special is machine down one of the bellhousing bolt bosses so the bracket will mount. It would be much easier and a little cheaper to just use a hydraulic TO bearing I think, I just have never had one and I am a little scared of them.

My bellhousing dialed within tolerances with the existing dowels, no adjusting dowels were needed.

I will use a Wilwood hydraulic master. GMC, I don't remember the slave size, you can look it up on Novak's website. The Wilwood masters come in 2 diameters, if you need to do something besides a 1:1 ratio.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

heater i here you on the HYD TO bearing , I am still up in the air over modern drive line to bearing or the novak kit. BTW did you check amount of travel on that kit?? long story on my last motor that was killed by several things but one was that the hyd clutch set up had too much travel and shoved the crank into the thrust beairing unit it gave up and it pulled the cam forward and killed the entire engine.

[Clownpuncher]

Originally Posted by GMR-PERFORMANCE

heater i here you on the HYD TO bearing , I am still up in the air over modern drive line to bearing or the novak kit. BTW did you check amount of travel on that kit?? long story on my last motor that was killed by several things but one was that the hyd clutch set up had too much travel and shoved the crank into the thrust beairing unit it gave up and it pulled the cam forward and killed the entire engine.

Normally on a hydro bearing if it gets over thrown the seals just get torn...Your issue is out of site...WOW

[scottofksu]

I'm in the same boat as Rideblue (trying to decide which trans is best for our builds without having to take out a second mortgage to pay for it)... Regarding the use of hydraulics; couldn't you just modify the original bell-crank and linkage setup?

Thanks for the cautionary tale about checking "travel" on the transmission. I will absolutely make sure I do that (once I figure out what it is) and hopefully avoid destroying an engine I couldn't afford to replace.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

My truck being a 62 came with a hyd clutch. I think some are not understanding the difference between a hyd clutch set up with a slave and one with a hyd t/o bearing.

Mine was put back together with the stock hyd slave, however it did have to be move from the pass side to the drivers. In that process the shop that I paid to do this install got it wrong. ALL wrong. In the end it cost me just over 9500 dollars. You would have to read the post about my 383 being dead. No use crying over that split milk now.

I wanted it done and did not have the time and hired it out. My fault , hind site 20/20. oh well gotta keep on keeping on!!!

The stock slave on these trucks will move right at 1.5 inches .

[rideblue00]

Wow sorry to hear that GMR. I am just learning about the hyd slave vs hyd t.o. stuff.

[Clownpuncher]

Hyrdo throwout is very easy to setup if you know how to measure travel, plus if it's not a fixed mount you will have to shim it to be about .200 from the clutch finger's. They also have a great pedal feel. But a good setup can get expensive

[padresag]

Originally Posted by Clownpuncher

Hyrdo throwout is very easy to setup if you know how to measure travel, plus if it's not a fixed mount you will have to shim it to be about .200 from the clutch finger's. They also have a great pedal feel. But a good setup can get expensive

what is a Hyrdo throwout?
ron

[rideblue00]

check this link out :
http://hotrodhotline.com/md/html/clu...draulic_cl.php

it gives a little info on the HYD T.O. setup

[CSGAS]

The pix on the previous page looked like they already had "high-hump" tranny covers in place before the clearance cutting started. Is that my imagination? Or will a high-hump clear a TKO-500 with only a hole for the shifter?

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

Yep stock trans cover will fit with just some trimming on the shifter hole.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

Here is a old pic of the seat in place and the shifter location, as you can see it is no where near the front of the seat. At that point I used the old stock shifter rod and just cut it and welded a flat piece to the bottom drilled two holes and bolter it up to the tranny. I tlooks funny but was extremely easy to reach and run it through the gears.

[scottofksu]

Thanks for the pic with bench seat! Do you have any that show the modifications you had to do to the trans tunnel? I too have a high hump trans tunnel and am interested in the TKO600 option...

That's a really long shifter! Do you find it's length impacts how quickly you can up-shift?

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

Nope never had a issue with up shifting , did run it at the track with dayton 275 60 15 rear tires and had it down in the 12.60's ( best run of that night) with a 1.8 60 foot. It would never hook with those tires. Funny I did tons of burn outs at the track to try to get the tire to heat and hook, never would. I still have the tires and they have at least 50% tread left, they where on it when I got it, they are BRICKS!!!

I had to trim maybe two inches right at the back I do not have a pic of it. But a pair of tin snips made quick work of what I needed done. The shifter boot covers it fine.

Yes the new shifter is going to be short, that was what I had at the time and I was in a stupid big hurry to get it done. My only transportation at the time.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

I had some issues with my cell phone that I took the pics on but here is the tunnel picture. As you can see it was only trimmed a bit in the rear. Another reason I choose the forward location for the shifter. One less thing to alter.

[rideblue00]

Thanks for the pics

[kitsbeach]

Originally Posted by Heater63

GMR-Perf had a good picture showing shifter location, but I thought I would detail it a little better. If you draw a line straight across your front cab bolts in the floor (the blue tape in the pic), you will see the mid shift location is 8" aft of that line, and the stock rear shifter location would be about 13 1/2" aft. That should give a you a real good idea of what would work with your seats.

Pulling up this old thread to ask if these pics use the 6cyl mounting position or the V8 position.?



Front shift on the TKO 500/600 is hard to get now and expensive….I'd like to know if the mid-shift position on the TKO clears the bench seat.?

The second picture below looks like it would fit pretty good but the V8 position is forward of the 6cyl position, so I'd like to know which one this is V8 or 6cyl?



Or does someone know how far further back the 6cyl mounting is than the V8 mounting.?

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

full front location and no it will not look up the pics no way will it unless you have some odd shaped bent to hell and back shifter . I long sold it off now replaced it with a 4l80E . Could not be happier.. Phuck Tremec..

[bosephus]

Originally Posted by kitsbeach

Pulling up this old thread to ask if these pics use the 6cyl mounting position or the V8 position.?

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Front shift on the TKO 500/600 is hard to get now and expensive….I'd like to know if the mid-shift position on the TKO clears the bench seat.?

The second picture below looks like it would fit pretty good but the V8 position is forward of the 6cyl position, so I'd like to know which one this is V8 or 6cyl?

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Or does someone know how far further back the 6cyl mounting is than the V8 mounting.?

The second picture is a v8 setup. Don't know the difference between v8 and i6 mounting but the distributor and passenger side head are close to the firewall on that application pictured. If an i6 sits further back I would say go with the front location,Bo

[padresag]

63-66 all engs originally mounted in the rear holes except for the 292 and the passenger side perch mounted forward. some with sbc move them forward for HEI clearance but there are lots with HEI that mount in the rear holes.
ron

[Captainfab]

The engine position in the '60-'66 trucks are all the same unlike the '67-'72's which have the V8's mounted forward of where the I6's mount. The bellhousing and it's crossmember are in the same location from the factory, regardless of the engine