1958 Chevy 60 Viking

[RockinKees]

Yep, that’s what these trucks are made for!

[jjzepplin]

I here that! I am afraid that if I paint mine, I wont want to pull stumps with it anymore. So have you got an idea for the power plant?

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by jjzepplin

...So have you got an idea for the power plant?

Well..a matter-a-fact I just bought it. I saw an add in our version of Craigslist for a 6.2 V8 Diesel with a TH400 attached to it for $800,-
Didn't expect much for that price, but I drove 2 hours to go and have a look.
the PO has all the documentation and showed the engine came from a G30 which drove around as an ambulance since 1984. I don't know where the engine number is located, so i took a picture of the biggest i could find



If I google it I come to the following.. what have I bought??

ARMY TM 9-2815-237-34P
AIR FORCE TO 38V1-6-4
MARINE CORPS TM 2815-34P/4C
(SUPERSEDES TM 9-2815-237-34P, 31 January 1996)
HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENTS OF THE ARMY,
THE AIR FORCE, AND MARINE CORPS
MARCH 2001
TECHNICAL MANUAL
DIRECT SUPPORT AND GENERAL SUPPORT
MAINTENANCE REPAIR PARTS AND
SPECIAL TOOLS LIST
FOR
ENGINE, DIESEL: 8 CYLINDER, NATURALLY ASPIRATED,
FUEL-INJECTED, WATER COOLED,
DDA MODEL 6.2 LITER (SERIAL NUMBER 1-99,999)
(NSN 2815-01-231-3672), (SERIAL NUMBER 100,000 AND ABOVE)
(NSN 2815-01-314-7940) (1990);

[dsraven]

it would be good to get the wiring harness with the engine if you could. Ido know they usually have a dual battery system and glow plugs. they also have a weird looking fuel filter/water separetor. the good thing is the wiring diagram should be easy to find if you need to wire it from scratch. they had hydro boost brake systems so you could incorporate that into your build if you wanted.

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by dsraven

it would be good to get the wiring harness with the engine if you could. Ido know they usually have a dual battery system and glow plugs. they also have a weird looking fuel filter/water separetor. the good thing is the wiring diagram should be easy to find if you need to wire it from scratch. they had hydro boost brake systems so you could incorporate that into your build if you wanted.

it comes with the full wiring harness! so that's a plus. I'm leaving for Poland this weekend to celebrate Xmas and new years there with my in-laws, so I've agreed that we'll pick up the engine the first week of January.

Oh and we've come up with the brilliant idea to add turbo's.. yes plural.
Not super big ones, just to add a little extra grunt...and coal.

[RockinKees]

Awesome!,

The Dutch Diesel Brothers!!

[dsraven]

here is a link for the banks turbo kit that gm used. not cheap but maybe you can find a used system somewhere. some info anyway.

https://usdieselparts.com/i-13464441...-2l-25241.html

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by dsraven

here is a link for the banks turbo kit that gm used. not cheap but maybe you can find a used system somewhere. some info anyway.

https://usdieselparts.com/i-13464441...-2l-25241.html

Thanks and I already found that one, indeed pricy.
So the casting number I posted on the 16th is obviously not the engine ID plate. where do I find it? I thought all chevy v8's had it on the back behind the left cylinder row (from drivers view)

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by MNchevy

Very cool story on the truck! What are your plans for the back of the truck after you shorten it? Build a new box or flatbed? Do you have plans to use it as a hauler or just a cruiser?

Looking forward to this cool build.

We haven't really givin it much thought. First IT had to fit our workshop

[Steve-W]

Hope everybody had a great Christmas, as I mentioned I went to Poland to spend time with the in-laws...must have gained 15 pounds..

Anyway, back to business. first we drove to Lelystad ("Lilly-town") to pick up the truck we bought on our recent trip to Riverside CA.


I know it's the wrong brand! but this 1970 F250 XLT Ranger is squeaky clean, drive's great and is definitely well looked after. we paid $4000,- and I think thats a very decent price.

seeing we still had some sunlight left, we decided to cut the last piece of the Viking off.



We had some luck, because we wanted to flip it over on it's topside, so it would be easier to cut into pieces..it almost went into the cab!



lets cut it up!!


Oh in looks already so much better with the empty frame!

[Steve-W]

Yesterday did a 300 mile round trip to pick up our 6.2L Diesel with Th400 for the Viking


My poor C10 did the job without any hassles, but I did notice the +/- 900 pounds perched in the back. It doesn't lean back to bad, but the rear coil springs and dampers are a bit soft, especially going over speed-bumps! I hate speed-bumps... and the Dutch suburbia are littered with these #@$$#%# (rimes with Other Puckers)
But after 2,5 hours, mainly highway and doing 55mph, I got back to our garage and we borrowed a forklift to get it out.

[RockinKees]

Nice Ford Steve!
Also lekker bezig on the Viking!!

[Advanced Design]

Wow, that was a scary moment when the back almost hit the cab!

Good to see the C10 handled the load. I dislike speed bumps too, and appreciate your rhymes with humor. Had a good chuckle on a bleak day!

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Had a good chuckle on a bleak day!

Hope the bleak day was just because of the weather and nothing more serious.


Today I dropped off another load of old metal to our recycling guy. Still had the hydraulic mechanism from the Viking laying around and had to get rid of an old 4-cyl Merc Diesel engine, gearbox and some other stuff (I've rented the nextdoor garage as well because between the F250, the viking chassis and the space we need when we take the cab and front-clip off, a double garage just didn't cut it.

anyway the metal man, as I will refer to him, has an excavator but today he had the metal cutter on it instead of the normal "grabber" (don't know what you call it) Metal man said he could pick the parts out of my c10 bed anyway.. of course he drops the hydraulic arms from 7' high right on the back of my opened tailgate!! (+/- 200 lbs) miraculously the tailgate survived with only a dent and closing a bit more difficult. Then Metal man tried to pick up the diesel Merc engine by the oil filter housing...a couple new dents in the bed are the consequence. In total he lifted off 1400lbs which in returns got me $75,- enough to buy a decent bottle of scotch to help me forget about the damages

Tuesday morning the DMV guy is coming by, so we can discuss with him about shortening the wheelbase by either cutting the frame, or just bringing the rear axle forward. He can also have a look at the 6.2 Diesel and tell us if he expects any trouble there with some sort of compliance.
(Unfortunately the Dutch government is very strict on hod-rods)

[Steve-W]

“Houston: Tranquility Base here; the Eagle has landed”
DMV guy came by and gave us the green light to proceed!

He put a couple of tags on the chassis and cab, so that when we make the changes and bring it to the DMV for re-certification, they can see all the original parts are still there.

he also gave us a good advice, because they're allergic for engine swaps, especially if the new engine is completely different...lets say 261 straight six turns into V8 diesel. So he said first get the chassis certified and thén swap the engine.

we also decided we'll bring the rear axle forward, instead of cutting a piece out of the frame for structural integrity.

[RockinKees]

Good to hear the dmv is coorperative!
It’s just who is coming to you...
But there not that difficult, and not allergic to engine swaps, only not all at the same time.
They have a rule, 1/3 modified, say, or engine/driveline, or chassis, or brake update. Not all at once, they can’t handle that...

So, happy building!!

[Steve-W]

Today is my birthday and as any loving wife would do she asked my what I wanted to do.
My answer? Shorten the wheelbase of the Viking..
An so I did. What we came up with is that between the front and the rear leave spring mount there is exactly 1 meter 30, or in American 51”. Instead of cutting the frame, we just brought the axle forward and modified the front mounts.

Here the axle still in place:


Here the rear mount:

And the front one:


Seeing they are identical, the holes line up easily. I bought some heavy duty drill’s 10mm (little under 4”) and drilled out the rivets. Easy job with a proper drill and drilling oil.


We took of the front mounts from the spring for easy maneuvering.


The back mounts lined up like a charm


We used 10.9 bolts M12 (little over 7/16”) which we tightened to 110Nm (81ft-lb)


We then modified the front mounts by cutting off the lip so we could mount them at any hight we wanted. So we measured 2,3 and 4 times, just to be sure!



Then it was the fun part


So what does it like like now?


And the funny thing is, just by luck it is exactly the same lenth as the C10




looks nice together


Now it fit's in the garage



All and All, it took us exactly 4hrs to get the job done! (maybe because it's my birthday?? #happycamper

[Advanced Design]

Nice improvement Steve and happy birthday!

[jjzepplin]

I am officially jealous! Gotta say though- I would be very tempted to toss a very big big block in there and put some super singles on it and lower a bit. Might need ladder bars though... Gonna put a bed on it?

[mongocanfly]

Good job on the shorter version....

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by jjzepplin

I am officially jealous! Gotta say though- I would be very tempted to toss a very big big block in there and put some super singles on it and lower a bit. Might need ladder bars though... Gonna put a bed on it?

This big enough for you?



No super singles, keeping the doubles..for now.
We first got to get it going as is, to go back to the dutch DMV in order to get the frame alteration certified. after that's approved we'll look at lowering, airrides and putting in the diesel (with 2 turbo's)

no bed, but a 5th wheel coupler plate

[jjzepplin]

Now you got me looking for one! Twin turbed diesel! OGG OGG!

[Steve-W]

Originally Posted by jjzepplin

Now you got me looking for one! Twin turbed diesel! OGG OGG!

well it seems there will be a lot of humvee's coming back from the middle east, so enough engines to go around

[cornerstone]

Lovin' the project Steve! The Viking is an absolute BEAST! How low do you plan on taking it with the air ride? I say SLAM IT!
Keep at it mate!
Brian

[RockinKees]

Hey, I missed your birthday!!
I think you had a good one

This is going to be a nice big shorty!
I’m curious how you gonna do the airride on this thing