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Old 04-30-2010, 12:57 AM   #26
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Re: Front solid axle flip

Here is a build with a flipped axle

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=245130

If you are going to flip your axle you need to also flip the steering arm end of the drag link to fix the bump steer. Sid sells steering arms that are modified for the flipped drag link
http://droppedaxles.com/CHEVY_AXLES.html

Here are some pictures of a truck with a flipped axle front lowering blocks and bags
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:00 AM   #27
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Re: Front solid axle flip

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Here is a build with a flipped axle

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=245130

If you are going to flip your axle you need to also flip the steering arm end of the drag link to fix the bump steer. Sid sells steering arms that are modified for the flipped drag link
http://droppedaxles.com/CHEVY_AXLES.html

Here are some pictures of a truck with a flipped axle front lowering and bags
That system pictured would work... And that's not considered flipped because there is no leaf springs. If you linked the front end you could put it wherever you wanted.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:04 AM   #28
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Re: Front solid axle flip

If you flip your axle be sure to check your driver side brake line to to make sure the drag link will not rip it off when you hit a bump. On my truck with a 4" drop axle and mono leafs I only had to move it a small amount.
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That system pictured would work... And that's not considered flipped because there is no leaf springs. If you linked the front end you could put it wherever you wanted.
There are leaf springs they are under the lowering blocks
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:06 AM   #30
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There are leaf springs they are under the lowering blocks
That sounds way dangerous then.....
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That system pictured would work... And that's not considered flipped because there is no leaf springs. If you linked the front end you could put it wherever you wanted.
I should say leaf spring (you can see part of it just under the tie rod) and not springs because he only has one and it was a stock spring not a store bought mono leaf. I have no idea how well it worked looks like a hokey ass ride to me, I would not ride in it

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I should say leaf spring (you can see part of it just under the tie rod) and springs because he only has one and it was a stock spring not a store bought mono leaf. I have no idea how well it worked looks like a hokey ass ride to me, I would not ride in it
Yeah, just think of where the spindle is in relation to the center of your leaf. What, 10" or so? That's a ton of leverage on those springs.... I wouldn't trust the U-bolts either, since he welded to them the tensile strength just went down and with the added leverage... Ut-Oh.....
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Re: Front solid axle flip

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Here is a build with a flipped axle

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=245130

If you are going to flip your axle you need to also flip the steering arm end of the drag link to fix the bump steer. Sid sells steering arms that are modified for the flipped drag link
http://droppedaxles.com/CHEVY_AXLES.html

Here are some pictures of a truck with a flipped axle front lowering blocks and bags
I also love the giant C-notch he put in the frame.... That is a huge piece of frame missing there.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:21 AM   #34
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I also love the giant C-notch he put in the frame.... That is a huge piece of frame missing there.
I could live with the c-notch (I have one about that size in the rear of my truck) It is the hokey ass spring/axle/air bag set up that gives me the creeps. Still interesting to see how low you can go with a flipped axle. If it did not have the lowering blocks under the axle and he manged to keep more then one leaf spring it could have been OK
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Re: Front solid axle flip

Just a question from an uneducated fella here.

How is the spring wrap any different with the axle on top than with a dropped axle? Wouldn't both of them create more spring wrap due to the center of the wheel being higher up compared to the spring itself?
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:10 PM   #36
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Re: Front solid axle flip

It's an ancient thread that you dug up but the spindle would be three or so inches higher than the spring with the flip than it would be with a dropped axle.

A friend in the PNW did one on his Ford F1 in he late 70's early 80's and drove it all over the North West and the guy who bought it drove it that way for several years. I never drove it and don't remember riding in it but he never mentioned how it drove or if there was a problem stopping.
That truck was super low when done that way, probably with the springs below the scrub line.

At best it's a Joe Cheap way to drop one if you aren't all that caught up in handling. A guy could build a link that ran parallel from the rear spring eye to a point just above the axle beam like a traction link on a rear axle that would limit spring wrap if there was room to put one.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:09 PM   #37
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Re: Front solid axle flip

The part that confuses me is the pivot point (the point where all the axle wrap would initiate from) would be based off the center point of the axle would it not? You are not changing the amount of force created on the spring itself because the distance from center of the axle (which is to my understanding the point that actual rotation is based off of) to the center of spindle height.

When you go to a dropped axle you are now increasing this distance and giving yourself a longer lever to twist the axle with, thereby creating more force on the springs themselves?

Regardless of if the axle is fastened to the top or bottom, if the twist is centered on the axle, wouldn't the force stay the same?
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Central Coast locals - count me in, I too live in Morro Bay, and my truck is in Los Osos.
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