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chevybill · 02-07-2006, 09:31 AM

So these attach to the cab and not the door?

do you have to drill holes?

Putter · 02-07-2006, 10:18 AM

The attach to the exact same location as the originals....just slip on with no glue.
Find any newer chevy truck 1988-current, and pull down on the weather stripping. It will unpinch from the metal. Then you can place it right back on and it will stay. Those are the same exact seals that we are talking about.

Chrome8 · 02-07-2006, 10:30 PM

Has anyone ever tried other model seals like silverado? Why the s10, just curious. The new trucks seals install the same way like putter just said.

Putter · 02-08-2006, 10:21 AM

I started with S-10 ones(and for some reason mine were 1.5" too short), so my new ones are actually 2004 Chevy full-size extended cab (with extended cab doors) seals. And they are the same thing as far as I can tell.
So, just find ones from GM that are long enough and you should be good to go.

MrC1 · 02-08-2006, 11:41 AM

Has anyone tried trimming the S10 rubber to help the doors close easier?

J Y Dog · 02-09-2006, 06:58 PM

I pulled a set off of a 94 S-10 Blazer that just came in.
They were about 1 inch short but fit great otherwise.
Took all of 5 minutes.Since they were already broke in the doors shut like they did before.

Jim

Dam I like workin in a junkyard!

4x4Poet · 02-13-2006, 12:59 AM

No one's tried them in a burb with the 90º upper corner to contend with?

Andy4639 · 02-18-2006, 12:16 AM

OK, I read all of this about the seals. Do they just magically stay on the cab(NOT THE DOOR) when you place them, what? No glue is nice but what makes them stay in place?

PICKMUP · 02-18-2006, 12:35 AM

I pulled a nice set out of a 90s suburban and the grooves that snap/push over the body pinch are full of sticky black goop sealant. I have never used them yet because they were so sticky. Was this an improvement to keep the water from getting in?

4x4Poet · 02-19-2006, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639

OK, I read all of this about the seals. Do they just magically stay on the cab(NOT THE DOOR) when you place them, what? No glue is nice but what makes them stay in place?

Tension. Built in tension. The seals are made with tension built into them so that it takes force to open the slit opening. By design, they just won't open without force applied. And remember, the door metal lip has a slight bend in it at its edge that the "tensioned" seal can grip.

krue · 02-19-2006, 01:37 AM

There's a clip in the rubber that grabs the lip around the door to keep it in place.

Chrome8 · 02-19-2006, 01:45 AM

you can crimp it to the metal lip on the cab if you have to, there is metal inside the silverado seals, done this many times on ex-cab trucks when the seals come loose.

71Chev · 02-21-2006, 12:51 PM

Hi everyone.

We have stopped selling the 82-93 S10 door to cab seals, as replacements for the 67-72 trucks. The manufacturer tighten the specs for the length on the s10 seal, so it can come up short on a 67-72.
We have chosen a seal that's almost identical to the s10 door seal, but this new seal has a slightly smaller diameter so the doors don't have to be shut as hard, and it's also longer.

I still have the first set of S10 seals on my truck that I put on about 3 years ago, and still have to shut the doors pretty firmly, especially with the windows all shut.

Les
@GMCPauls

454_72_4X4 · 02-21-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71Chev

Hi everyone.
We have chosen a seal that's almost identical to the s10 door seal, but this new seal has a slightly smaller diameter so the doors don't have to be shut as hard, and it's also longer.

Les
@GMCPauls

So is the new seal a factory GM part? From a different truck or something?

71Chev · 02-21-2006, 02:50 PM

They are reproduction seals, that come with a lifetime warranty to the original buyer. The seal we selected is probably used for several different applications, we selected it based on the diameter of the seal that contacts the door, and the depth of the "clip" or push on part of the seal. The 73-87 and 88-98 door seals were considered, but the seal on those is larger than the S10 seal, so it would make the 67-72 door even harder to shut.

70GMCer · 02-21-2006, 05:56 PM

I just got a used set off a 97 S10. Fit perfect and shuts nicely. The seals I got look brand new and are nice and soft. I did take them back off, cause I'm getting ready to paint the truck.

454_72_4X4 · 02-21-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71Chev

They are reproduction seals, that come with a lifetime warranty to the original buyer. The seal we selected is probably used for several different applications, we selected it based on the diameter of the seal that contacts the door, and the depth of the "clip" or push on part of the seal. The 73-87 and 88-98 door seals were considered, but the seal on those is larger than the S10 seal, so it would make the 67-72 door even harder to shut.

I can verify the 73-87 seals are to big. Long ago I ordered seals for my 72 and they sent me the 73-87 style. I thought I'd go ahead and try them so I glued the passenger side seal on and tried to shut the door. First few tries didn't work so I slammed it shut, (harder than I should have). Well it latched but it took me about 2 weeks to get it back open...

I still have a dent in the door right below the window on the inside where I had to kick it to get it open!

Now I have a set of reproduction ones of the correct style and you've come up with some that are better yet?

Arrgh!!!

Just my luck...

OhioChevy · 02-21-2006, 08:15 PM

Les, is it okay to ask the price of the new cab seals that you are selling?

WRMZ71 · 02-21-2006, 11:29 PM

Glad I read this thread!! and here I thought I was a retard and couldn't keep that stupid weatherstripping in!

willow72 · 03-03-2006, 07:45 PM

Just Got A New Set From Gmc Pauls And If The S10 Ones Are Harder To Close Than These Then They Must Really Hard Too Close Because These Are Harder Than Heck Too Close Really Have To Slam Too Close And Another Thing I Didnt Like Was The Box They Came In Said They Were For A 78-93 Dodge Pick-up And I Hate Dodge Pick-ups But They Were Very Easy To Install

pritch · 03-04-2006, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4Poet

No one's tried them in a burb with the 90º upper corner to contend with?

I put an old set from a junk yard on my Panel just to see. I like the fit, but they look a little strange from the inside. I don't have any pics, but I could put one up tomorrow.

QKENUF4U · 03-04-2006, 12:50 AM

what ever GMCpauls is selling now fit PERFECT (lenght is EXACT in my truck) worth every penny. still need to pull the doors nice and solid to shut them but they work perfect.

71/454 · 03-04-2006, 11:49 PM

Just curious what a set of these cost? The s-10 ones and the ones from GMC Pauls. Thanks

willow72 · 03-05-2006, 07:05 AM

50 bucks

Gazoo · 04-05-2006, 09:36 PM

Could someone pls post a pic of these installed. Much Thanks.

02-07-2006, 09:31 AM	#26
chevybill Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: calhoun city ms Posts: 940	Re: S-10 door rubber review time So these attach to the cab and not the door? do you have to drill holes? __________________ ongoing 1970 c 10 lwb 1994 z-28 few mods.-owned since new 1978 vette silver/grey 25th anniv. paint

02-07-2006, 10:18 AM	#27
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Re: S-10 door rubber review time The attach to the exact same location as the originals....just slip on with no glue. Find any newer chevy truck 1988-current, and pull down on the weather stripping. It will unpinch from the metal. Then you can place it right back on and it will stay. Those are the same exact seals that we are talking about. __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

02-07-2006, 10:30 PM	#28
Chrome8 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Park Rapids, MN Posts: 288	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Has anyone ever tried other model seals like silverado? Why the s10, just curious. The new trucks seals install the same way like putter just said. __________________ 1969 K20 not running, complete but rusty with wrecker boom and push bumper 1969 GMC C20 un-molested rust free original paint "a 4 eyed girl named 'Tina" 1971 Chev K20 4X4 Box Delete Commercial Truck Flatbed "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." Confucius

02-08-2006, 10:21 AM	#29
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Re: S-10 door rubber review time I started with S-10 ones(and for some reason mine were 1.5" too short), so my new ones are actually 2004 Chevy full-size extended cab (with extended cab doors) seals. And they are the same thing as far as I can tell. So, just find ones from GM that are long enough and you should be good to go. __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket** Last edited by Putter; 02-08-2006 at 10:21 AM.

02-08-2006, 11:41 AM	#30
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Has anyone tried trimming the S10 rubber to help the doors close easier? __________________ 1972 C20, 402/700R4 - My first classic truck, bought in September 2005. 85% transformed from "Farm" to "Cool" status! 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, 4sp (my other toy) 12.67 @ 117 MPH, with a pathetic 2.022 60' 2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8 2008 Cadillac CTS All-American garage, baby!

02-09-2006, 06:58 PM	#31
J Y Dog Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville, NC Posts: 63	Re: S-10 door rubber review time I pulled a set off of a 94 S-10 Blazer that just came in. They were about 1 inch short but fit great otherwise. Took all of 5 minutes.Since they were already broke in the doors shut like they did before. Jim Dam I like workin in a junkyard!

02-13-2006, 12:59 AM	#32
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	Re: S-10 door rubber review time No one's tried them in a burb with the 90º upper corner to contend with? __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

02-18-2006, 12:16 AM	#33
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: S-10 door rubber review time OK, I read all of this about the seals. Do they just magically stay on the cab(NOT THE DOOR) when you place them, what? No glue is nice but what makes them stay in place? __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

02-18-2006, 12:35 AM	#34
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,144	Re: S-10 door rubber review time I pulled a nice set out of a 90s suburban and the grooves that snap/push over the body pinch are full of sticky black goop sealant. I have never used them yet because they were so sticky. Was this an improvement to keep the water from getting in?

02-19-2006, 01:37 AM	#36
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: S-10 door rubber review time There's a clip in the rubber that grabs the lip around the door to keep it in place. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

02-19-2006, 01:45 AM	#37
Chrome8 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Park Rapids, MN Posts: 288	Re: S-10 door rubber review time you can crimp it to the metal lip on the cab if you have to, there is metal inside the silverado seals, done this many times on ex-cab trucks when the seals come loose. __________________ 1969 K20 not running, complete but rusty with wrecker boom and push bumper 1969 GMC C20 un-molested rust free original paint "a 4 eyed girl named 'Tina" 1971 Chev K20 4X4 Box Delete Commercial Truck Flatbed "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." Confucius

02-21-2006, 12:51 PM	#38
71Chev Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,074	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Hi everyone. We have stopped selling the 82-93 S10 door to cab seals, as replacements for the 67-72 trucks. The manufacturer tighten the specs for the length on the s10 seal, so it can come up short on a 67-72. We have chosen a seal that's almost identical to the s10 door seal, but this new seal has a slightly smaller diameter so the doors don't have to be shut as hard, and it's also longer. I still have the first set of S10 seals on my truck that I put on about 3 years ago, and still have to shut the doors pretty firmly, especially with the windows all shut. Les @GMCPauls __________________ 71 Chevy CST Long Fleet 350/350/3.07 leaf rear. Last edited by 71Chev; 02-21-2006 at 12:52 PM.

02-21-2006, 02:50 PM	#40
71Chev Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,074	Re: S-10 door rubber review time They are reproduction seals, that come with a lifetime warranty to the original buyer. The seal we selected is probably used for several different applications, we selected it based on the diameter of the seal that contacts the door, and the depth of the "clip" or push on part of the seal. The 73-87 and 88-98 door seals were considered, but the seal on those is larger than the S10 seal, so it would make the 67-72 door even harder to shut. __________________ 71 Chevy CST Long Fleet 350/350/3.07 leaf rear.

02-21-2006, 05:56 PM	#41
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: S-10 door rubber review time I just got a used set off a 97 S10. Fit perfect and shuts nicely. The seals I got look brand new and are nice and soft. I did take them back off, cause I'm getting ready to paint the truck. __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

02-21-2006, 08:15 PM	#43
OhioChevy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 489	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Les, is it okay to ask the price of the new cab seals that you are selling?



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02-21-2006, 11:29 PM	#44
WRMZ71 Cause the Chicks DIG IT!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beaufort SC Posts: 509	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Glad I read this thread!! and here I thought I was a retard and couldn't keep that stupid weatherstripping in!

03-03-2006, 07:45 PM	#45
willow72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: dallas/ftwoth Posts: 112	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Just Got A New Set From Gmc Pauls And If The S10 Ones Are Harder To Close Than These Then They Must Really Hard Too Close Because These Are Harder Than Heck Too Close Really Have To Slam Too Close And Another Thing I Didnt Like Was The Box They Came In Said They Were For A 78-93 Dodge Pick-up And I Hate Dodge Pick-ups But They Were Very Easy To Install

03-04-2006, 12:50 AM	#47
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: S-10 door rubber review time what ever GMCpauls is selling now fit PERFECT (lenght is EXACT in my truck) worth every penny. still need to pull the doors nice and solid to shut them but they work perfect.

03-04-2006, 11:49 PM	#48
71/454 Turbo Guy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 353	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Just curious what a set of these cost? The s-10 ones and the ones from GMC Pauls. Thanks

03-05-2006, 07:05 AM	#49
willow72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: dallas/ftwoth Posts: 112	Re: S-10 door rubber review time 50 bucks

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Gazoo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 63	Re: S-10 door rubber review time Could someone pls post a pic of these installed. Much Thanks. __________________ 71 short fleetside

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