for the dually guys....20" rims

[JCampbell]

Originally Posted by D.FENS

All I've had time for, thus far, is researching the available sizes, and working out the diameters.

Most of what's available is or seems to be aimed at the LT or SUV market, so they would be rated accordingly (I hope anyway), and you would be running four on the rear axle. I haven't done any comparisons on load ratings VS the usual 215 or 235 / 85 sizes.

I hear what you're saying, but still, an LT or "SUV" tire isn't a "D" or "E" rated "commercial use" tire, which is all I'm comfortable running on a dually. I suppose for the guys who just have a nice cruiser, that doesn't pull any real tow/haul duty, it'd be okay. These are the same guys who run passenger car tires on 16" wheels already. But for a lowered rig that's still expected to work once in a while, I think there's some significant safety factors that still need to be addressed.

Like I said, I still need to gross 15k every once in a while...an LT tire ain't gonna get me there. Which really sucks, because the concept is totally bad ass. I'd love to run a set.

[JCampbell]

Oops...double post.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by LOW1TON

I heard these were coming out. So I am glad to see them. I have 22s on my black truck and love them but on my red truck I only have 17s and want bigger! These will fit right in perfect. I can still keep a decent size side wall for the crappy roads here in Tulsa. Only thing that will kill it for me is if you have to run a different size inside rear wheel. I think they all need to match. But that's just my opinion.

Since you've had your set-up done for a while on the square body, what do you consider your limit as far as weight capacity w/the 22's? Obviously they're not up to par for the full capacity a dually is capable of (they might squeak by, but everyone know's 22" tires are not optimal in a HD app).

I'm just curious where people draw the line for safety concerns. I'm on the fence.... I sure would like some 20's on mine (22's have too short of a sidewall for my personal taste & I would want to get the 4 equal width/size rears which is also a must for me). Since my main cargo will prob be just the open car trailer I have loaded w/a swb truck, I feel comfortable but it makes me wonder how others view the scenario.

[lolife99]

Lots of good points.
I'll bet money, they don't tuck for low/bagged trucks.
I'm sure the specs are the same as oem wheels.
I doubt you can run four 20's in the rear.
Don't the adapters for the 22-24" semi wheels have longer studs?
This is what allows you to double up on the rear.

I see these as a stock or lifted dually wheel,...

[maxwheels]

Hey all, Im the guy on Egay, lol, heres what I know about these, I worked for Eagle for 9 years 88-97, I was asked by one of your members to post, I have been selling lots of the 19.5, over 300 trucks and my fair share of 22.5 or 22" shaved, when I first saw the 20" coming out I jumped on it, getting the word out, and a big response.

I have 15 orders and the wheels are just coming thru, they are 6 aluminum, the rear inners will be interlocking with the outers, the wheels will be hubcentric to the vehicle, the front wheels will be rated at 3000 pounds load capacity and the rears 2350ea, so the wheels alone across the rear 9400 pounds.

we are still playing with tires depending on the look a customer is after, lifted with 33's or 35's, or stock or lowered, so far the Nitto 275/60-20 Dura Grappler at 33" overall diameter 10 ply load range E, seems will be the best for stock trucks, when you get to 285mm(11.22" wide) width that is when the rears will touch and thus need the adpaters but since these 20's will interlock and I have not even got a set yet we dont know what we will have to do to run an adapter, because of liablilty you will want to use a 10 ply load range e tire, anything less and someone is in big trouble if a tire blows out.

Im sure I will be shipping wheels only and customers will buy there own tires so I wont have the liability, if I do any with tires they will have to be 10 ply, I cant find anything smaller then the 275/60-20 at this time, just the Nitto mentioned above and Pro Comp(pro comp being discontinued but we can do a buy 3 get one free),

So all 6 aluminum polished wheels including the inners, 20x7.5 they will have the 0589 classics with round holes and the 0569 spokes will come in polished and black

let me know if I can answer any questions and will post more info as the wheels come thru, thank you

[SCOTI]

The 'inter-lock' feature.... Does that mean the wheel spacing will be similar or the same as a pair of steel wheels?

[maxwheels]

should be close to stock but aluminum wheels are thicker then the steel so dont be surprised if the wheels do come out a bit more then the steel about an 1"-1.5" and thats just the thickness of the aluminum vs the steel

[meatwagon83]

I thought some medium duty trucks came with 20s?
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[therapy]

Im waiting on a set of these myself for my dually project we have been working on at my shop.

[meatwagon83]

hey campy, i looked on tire rack and they have e rated 20" tires

[JCampbell]

Hmm...well that's interesting. Do you recall what size/brand?

[meatwagon83]

looks like discount tire has 265/60/20 in load range e

[JCampbell]

That's a big ass tire. Almost 32.5" in diameter. Compared to a 225/75/16, which is a hair over 29".

[JCampbell]

PS...looks like a new thread over on DS. Maybe Lock will chime in with what he knows...

http://www.duallyscene.com/forums/ge...olt-t7889.html

[meatwagon83]

yeah i found out thats a big tire, i have found some 7.50r20 though, says they are a shade over 28" tall

[Big-Sexy907]

Interesting find, I was about to try and lift my 2wd so I can fit a set of 22.5's on it. I can't wait to hear more info fellas.

[SCOTI]

Watching this one too....

[SCOTI]

Light truck/SUV crossover tire options:

Michelin Latitude Tour HP
245-50-20's @ 29.7" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1704lb capacity rating
235-55-20's @ 30.2" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating

Yokohama Parada Spec-X
245-50-20's @ 29.7" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating
235-55-20's @ 30.2" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating

While the price might be close to the TW&T TowNasty's, I just don't care for the low, low, profile 22" tire on a dually unless it's laid-out. The other 90% of the time it looks lost. I think 20's are the great compromise. Obviously this doesn't do much for the guys that expect to tow a trailer loaded to the hilt, but 22's wouldn't have been an option in those cases either (22.5's might if they would fit)....

[GCncsuHD]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Light truck/SUV crossover tire options:

Michelin Latitude Tour HP
245-50-20's @ 29.7" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1704lb capacity rating
235-55-20's @ 30.2" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating

Yokohama Parada Spec-X
245-50-20's @ 29.7" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating
235-55-20's @ 30.2" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating

Keep in mind, that in a dual rear wheel application you must subtract 10% from that rating, making those tires 1534lb and 1687lb capacity respectively. In that application you are looking just a bit over 6100lbs capacity on the rear axle. You are well under the rear GAWR at that weight rating. Not to mention, the P rated tires have softer sidewalls, so even if they are not loaded to the max, they still flex the sidewall much more than a LT tire, this will cause the tires to heat up more, and possibly even touch in the rear and is just asking for a blowout.

That setup would be ok for a show truck, or the occasional small boat, but it definitely wouldn't cut it for towing duty.

I am definitely interested though, these would go great with the stock 275/60R20 or 275/65R20E tires that come stock on the newer trucks on stock height or slightly lifted truck like my dually. I'm interested to learn more about the "interlocking" feature as well. Will these use conical lug seats or a flat face nut/washer mounting? I know the latter would greatly cut down on the mounting flange width, allowing inner aluminum wheels.

Originally Posted by maxwheels

keep in mind same width and back space aside, aluminum center at least 1" thick, steel what about a 1/4" or so, so the wheels should come out a bit more from the hubs then the steel.

Are they going to be that thick at the mounting flange? Or will they be flat face like the Ford aluminum wheels which are much thinner than conical lug seat aftermarket dually wheels. Those style are ~5/8" thick.

[maxwheels]

they interlock with a male to female type grooves so the wheels do not turn on each other, they will take a mag shanked lug with a washer, once I get the first set I can post some pics of both front and back of wheel.

[meatwagon83]

Thanks scoti!
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[JCampbell]

That’s not as bad as I thought. Almost 7k across the back end. Even at max GCW (15k), you’d probably be okay.

I’d still like to know how they fit.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by JCampbell

That’s not as bad as I thought. Almost 7k across the back end. Even at max GCW (15k), you’d probably be okay.

I’d still like to know how they fit.

Agreed. I wonder how many 3/4 ton trucks utilize LT tires vs. D/E load rated? Twice as many only helps but I'm ok w/the fact that my CC dually is really no longer suited for full capacity. I think of it as a DRW 3/4 ton .

[JCampbell]

I max out a few times a year. 6,300# truck, 7,100# skid steer, 1,500# trailer = 14,900#.

We do have a 5,800# skid steer if I wanted to save about 1,300#.

[JCampbell]

Thanks for posting. That answers a lot of questions. I'm still curious to see how they'll look on a lowered truck, and what size/brand tire will work in that application.

BTW, I'm just up the 15 from you in Hesperia. How 'bout a local hookup?