dinos 64 soon to be a long bed dually

[65 old school]

WOW!.. Only you can pump em out in record time!. 4 weeks, KNOCK IT OFF!.. You make the rest of us look bad. Like all the others trucks you've done, can't wait to see how this one turns out!. Nice find.

[55reasons]

Nice article on the Creamsicle in the issue of Classic Trucks I saw on the stand today!

I'll be keeping an eye on this project too since it has a lot in common with the intent of my C10.

I'll be up in PHX on Sat morning picking up some parts...

Have fun with the build!

[dbomb53]

Dude you need your own tv show, I heard lamar and kloe are taking a break, maybe they can come film around your shop! I'll be the dude running to get your drink....lol
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[63GMCKid]

I'll be watching this one, love the look of a lowered dually. Are you keeping the HO52/72 in it? I ask because the lowest (numerically) ratio available for them is 4.11, with typical street truck sized tires and no overdrive it seems like that engine will be wound out pretty good at higher speeds, any concerns about that?

Got any more pictures of that rear overload leaf setup? Looks different from all of the factory stuff I've ever seen on these.

[64shortc10]

Bad @$$ Dino! I thought about turning my motor home into a long bed dually too! I might if it doesn't sell soon! I'll be watching this one!
Tony from Norcal
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[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by lolife99

You can use that York A/C compressor for your onboard air.
Subscribing,... again!

good call but a gave all the ac stuff to my buddy joe . i still have one oasis compressor left but i am just going to run the 480 dual pack

[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by 63GMCKid

I'll be watching this one, love the look of a lowered dually. Are you keeping the HO52/72 in it? I ask because the lowest (numerically) ratio available for them is 4.11, with typical street truck sized tires and no overdrive it seems like that engine will be wound out pretty good at higher speeds, any concerns about that?

Got any more pictures of that rear overload leaf setup? Looks different from all of the factory stuff I've ever seen on these.

yeah when i pull all that stuff off i will take some pics.I am going to give all that over load stuff to a dude that has a flat bed. I agree i never seen such massive over load on a trailing arm set up , the rear end is 7'and i like that its narrow but that good info on those gears. when i drove the truck home it seemed to have a tall gear in it i will have to ask my diff guy

[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by dbomb53

Dude you need your own tv show, I heard lamar and kloe are taking a break, maybe they can come film around your shop! I'll be the dude running to get your drink....lol
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[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by 55reasons

Nice article on the Creamsicle in the issue of Classic Trucks I saw on the stand today!

I'll be keeping an eye on this project too since it has a lot in common with the intent of my C10.

I'll be up in PHX on Sat morning picking up some parts...

Have fun with the build!

thanks , were at in phoenix?

[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by 65 old school

WOW!.. Only you can pump em out in record time!. 4 weeks, KNOCK IT OFF!.. You make the rest of us look bad. Like all the others trucks you've done, can't wait to see how this one turns out!. Nice find.

will see that the plan, lets see if liz lets me

[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by awbrown

OK Dino you have forced me off the computer and out to the garage .....

[Dinos63]

thanks duudes for all the cool suport and coments!

[55reasons]

Originally Posted by Dinos63

thanks , were at in phoenix?

Way down in Buckeye area.

Then a stop in Gila Bend to pick up my 14 bolt rear end.

[63GMCKid]

Originally Posted by Dinos63

yeah when i pull all that stuff off i will take some pics.I am going to give all that over load stuff to a dude that has a flat bed. I agree i never seen such massive over load on a trailing arm set up , the rear end is 7'and i like that its narrow but that good info on those gears. when i drove the truck home it seemed to have a tall gear in it i will have to ask my diff guy

Well if you know what the current tire size is and what RPM you were turning at a given speed, the only ratios offered in the Eaton HO52/72's were 4.11, 4.56, and 5.13, so you could plug those numbers into an online gear calculator and figure out what ratio you've got by process of elimination.

Years ago there was a company that made a 3.73 gear set for the Eaton HO52/72, can't remember the name of the company, but it was a short production run, I personally have never seen such a R&P set for sale, I learned about it from the Eaton HO72 thread on Pirate4x4, so I would assume they are very rare, but it might be worth a shot trying to track a set down.

The Eatons are excellent axles, easy to work on, extremely strong, fairly light weight when converted to disc brakes (Lighter than a 14bolt with discs) and still lighter than a 14bolt with drums if you keep the drum brakes. Only downside to them really is the pinion bearings are weird and extremely expensive, there is a taper roller pinion bearing with a dual outer race, so its like 2 bearings in 1, usually runs about $400-$450 for a new one, and there is a double row ball pinion bearing that usually runs about $300-$350 new, and the double row ball pinion bearings aren't very desirable for obvious reasons.

An easy way to tell which you have without pulling the 3rd.... if you are looking at the axle facing the pinion, looking at the 5 bolt flange that retains the pinion bearing/seal, at the lower drivers side edge of that flange, if there is a small hump that looks like it has a channel extending behind it on the 3rd, and a small hump that extends from the rib right above the flange down to the flange face, both of those things mean it has the taper roller pinion bearing (Those are the oiling and oil return channels). If it doesn't have both of those features, then it has the double row ball bearing for the pinion bearing.

In my opinion these axles are worth putting a bit of work into to keep them running strong in these old trucks. If your 3rd ends up being one with the double row ball bearing pinion bearing, I would say its worth it to go on the hunt for another 3rd with the taper roller pinion bearing, usually you can get a complete axle or a complete 3rd for $50 to $200 on CL.

Now all of this is pointless if you want to run something numerically lower than 4.11, in which case I'd say just pick up a used narrow 14 bolt dually from a cab&chassis truck.

[67cheby]

SWEEEEEEEEEETTTT !!!!!!!! i am late as always...but i am HERE !! WOW !

[wutnxt]

Dude your on page 2 before I got directed over here....as always look forward to see what happens...your crazy dude....

[coulter]

this is gonna be a sweet build!!! gonna be watching this one

[bigguy69]

Im in
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[CRGRS 66]

I am in as well.

[tincan1966]

I searched for 3 months trying to find those ellusive 3.73's for my HO72, finally gave in and ended up installing a Corporate 14 bolt from an '85 dually. If I had to do over again, I'd make sure to get the Cab and Chassis differential instead of a dually one- they are about 8" narrower.

[gimmy 64]

i'm in. anybody want to start a pool for the amount of time after the truck is complete that Dino sells it?

[Dunenutt]

Originally Posted by gimmy 64

i'm in. anybody want to start a pool for the amount of time after the truck is complete that Dino sells it?

He has pretty much saturated the market recently, It may be around a while

[Dinos63]

Originally Posted by 63GMCKid

Well if you know what the current tire size is and what RPM you were turning at a given speed, the only ratios offered in the Eaton HO52/72's were 4.11, 4.56, and 5.13, so you could plug those numbers into an online gear calculator and figure out what ratio you've got by process of elimination.

Years ago there was a company that made a 3.73 gear set for the Eaton HO52/72, can't remember the name of the company, but it was a short production run, I personally have never seen such a R&P set for sale, I learned about it from the Eaton HO72 thread on Pirate4x4, so I would assume they are very rare, but it might be worth a shot trying to track a set down.

The Eatons are excellent axles, easy to work on, extremely strong, fairly light weight when converted to disc brakes (Lighter than a 14bolt with discs) and still lighter than a 14bolt with drums if you keep the drum brakes. Only downside to them really is the pinion bearings are weird and extremely expensive, there is a taper roller pinion bearing with a dual outer race, so its like 2 bearings in 1, usually runs about $400-$450 for a new one, and there is a double row ball pinion bearing that usually runs about $300-$350 new, and the double row ball pinion bearings aren't very desirable for obvious reasons.

An easy way to tell which you have without pulling the 3rd.... if you are looking at the axle facing the pinion, looking at the 5 bolt flange that retains the pinion bearing/seal, at the lower drivers side edge of that flange, if there is a small hump that looks like it has a channel extending behind it on the 3rd, and a small hump that extends from the rib right above the flange down to the flange face, both of those things mean it has the taper roller pinion bearing (Those are the oiling and oil return channels). If it doesn't have both of those features, then it has the double row ball bearing for the pinion bearing.

In my opinion these axles are worth putting a bit of work into to keep them running strong in these old trucks. If your 3rd ends up being one with the double row ball bearing pinion bearing, I would say its worth it to go on the hunt for another 3rd with the taper roller pinion bearing, usually you can get a complete axle or a complete 3rd for $50 to $200 on CL.

Now all of this is pointless if you want to run something numerically lower than 4.11, in which case I'd say just pick up a used narrow 14 bolt dually from a cab&chassis truck.

holy shh-- good info thanks

[Dinos63]

always thanks duude for the coments, after work today I got after getting the motor and stuff out. also this time i put engine inside my shop last time i left it out my boxer ate the plug wires off and had to have emergency surgery ( 1.700 I could got truck parts)but learned the hard way.I also pulled all that over load stuff off the rear too .My new gladiator cabinets came in and got them set up

[Dinos63]

few mo