The "In over my head" build thread

[SeventyOne]

Update 2.28

Ok so I didn't get as much done as I wanted with it raining until noon but nevertheless it's progress..

My brother - So young... so ambitious.....


I let him do all the dirty work


Anyways We pulled the engine out with no hassle at all - got some grade 8 hardware to mount the carb plate and for the engine stand mounting bolts, removed the exhaust manifold bolts (all came out SUPER easy ), the power steering lines, and the NASTY motor mounts and started cranking on the hoist.



Got it on the stand


And there was a nearly drivetrain-less frame.


Was still light out so I wanted to try to get the axles out and have a bare frame, everything else came out so easy, why not?

Buddy and I tackled the front, popped the pitman-arm-tierod-thingy off the curvey-steering-arm-doohickey (technical terms) and unbolted the gear box. Got the impact wrench on the leaf spring bolts, unbolted the top shackle bolt, cut those old rubber brake lines and out the front axle rolled suspension and all.

The rear-end wasn't as fun...While we were getting the front out my brother and another friend were struggling with ALL 4 rear suspension bolts (front hanger and bottom shackle bolt). Impact wouldn't budge them so standing and bouncing on a 4' breaker bar moved them just enough to get the nuts off - "Cool we thought - that's not so bad".

The nuts may be off but now the bolts are just stuck in the bushings - managed to remove 1 with an aluminum drift and an hammer but the others are stuck. They will turn but I'm guessing the bushing is turning also? Thinking I need to pick up a 5lb sledge and take a crack at them and I don't really care about damaging the bolts since new hardware will be installed anyways.

Thoughts?

[hgs_notes]

Burn the bushings out. Just use a torch and light 'em up. Cut the bolts off if you need to.

[SeventyOne]

Don't have a torch but if it comes to that I can pick one up...

[hgs_notes]

You only need a propane soldering torch to get those burning. It might need to be done regardless because that's the easiest way to do it when your replacing the bushings.

[SeventyOne]

one of the little blue ones (at least the ones I see are always blue) about a foot long?

[lks dcvn]

pic

[hgs_notes]

That's it. We're not BS'ing you. It has it in the instructions for replacing bushings.

[SeventyOne]

Originally Posted by hgs_notes

That's it. We're not BS'ing you. It has it in the instructions for replacing bushings.

Haha well Ill give it a try - going to try to whack them out first then I'll use a little heat........

[SeventyOne]

No luck burning them out. They smolder and smoke and kinda fall/scrape away but the bolt it still stuck in there. Tried to cut the head off the bolt and it just seemed to dull my saw blades...

Any other techniques?

Rather than get frustrated I moved on to tearing down the front axle.

[hgs_notes]

You can use an angle grinder with a cut off wheel or a die grinder. I've never been shy about using a bigger hammer.

Also, check out the 4x4 section on the board and post a question there. Almost all of those guys have replaced springs and have the experience.

[SeventyOne]

Ya bigger hammer is next then the grinder these F'ers are coming out one way or another.

[mikegarvin34]

this will free up the bolt

[SeventyOne]

is that a mini oxy-acetalyn torch? Pretty Cool...

[SeventyOne]

Update 3.17.10

So with the recent struggles I had removing the leaf spring bolts I FINALLY have a solution...

Tried a hammer to knock them out - worked on one, other 3 didn't budge
Tried a torch on the rubber bushings - got them nice and smokey but the bolts stayed put
Tried a 5lb sledge to knock them out - this was sort of successful. It move the bolts until the end of the bolt was flush with the bracket and there was nothing to hit

Finally I got tired of conventional methods and out came the tools of destruction.

Grinder with a cutoff wheel - skillsaw with a metal blade, reciprocating saw, and the pneumatic cutoff made short work of the bolts, cutting the rear shackles in half and the leaf spring u-bolts.

Duceducenine stopped by to lend a hand with the cutting (thanks again) - I gave the springs to him to help him out with one of his many projects. I also noticed his side marker was smashed so I hooked him up with a spare I had taken off my Blazer.

Anyways, I can finally get the 12bolt out of there and sold (hopefully) and get the 14bolt ready to put under the frame. Also need to swap the Dana 44 to 8 lug, clean and paint the frame and axles then I'm back to a rolling chassis! Then all I need to do is........

[Classic383]

Sweet! Yup I remember burning those bushing out. Had them in flames, almost melting. Alotta Hell!! Thanks for the motivation! I will definitely be following your thread.

[duceducenine]

whats up chris any progress????
thanks for the spring they went in
easily now for replacing the shocks....
still got the exhaust? tires?
might be interested still......

[SeventyOne]

Originally Posted by duceducenine

whats up chris any progress????
thanks for the spring they went in
easily now for replacing the shocks....
still got the exhaust? tires?
might be interested still......

Hey Jay - glad the springs worked out. Progress is slow recently. Major yardwork was needed and then my younger dog turned out to be an escape artist so I needed to rebuild a section of fence in the yard. Looking to get back out there this weekend to remove all the old fuel/brake lines and start to get into the axles.

I've got the shocks I took off my Blazer - I assume they're still good...

Exhaust and tires - still have it; need to get rid off them. I'm looking to re-coop some money on these items if possible. Shoot me a PM if you want em.

[DANTES JIMMY]

Always always remember the ultimate emancipator
sawzall!!!!!!!

[SeventyOne]

Yup - probably my favorite tool to use aside from the impact wrench.

[SeventyOne]

update coming tonight

[NW_Ryker]

I'm excited to see how this truck will turn out. I hope you don't mud her too hard though. Are you putting the same motor/ tranny/ t-case in?

[SeventyOne]

Update 9.22.10

Can't believe it's been 5 months since my last update. Not too much to show but here's the progress since my last update.

Got a lot of the excess metal cut off the frame that a PO had welded in for a hitch (pic of the massive pile of scrap metal to come). Still a little more to come out but I ran out of saw blades and cut-off discs.

Trying to keep making progress I turned to the axles - got all the brackets cut off of the 14bolt (shock tabs and spring pads), got the disc brake setup mocked in place, and bolted on the wheels and tires - I think it looks sick! Even better everything clear and fits!




With my spirits high I started tearing into the Dana 44. It's nasty and greasy and my first time disassembling an axle - tons of fun!
Got it all blown apart and looking at what I needed next. Starting amassing parts (8 lug rotors, big bearing spindles, bearings, 3/4 ton brake backing plates, spindle studs and nuts, ball joints, new hubs) and then set out to clean this greasy pig. Done and ready for paint!


Got the knuckles and caliper brackets done too.


Now I turn to the frame - still need to cut out some left over metal, cut off the old shackle hangers so the ORD shackle flip can go on, then clean and paint the frame. Then bolt all my junk together! Im getting pumped at the thought of having a rolling chassis again!

I also picked up some other parts along the way - DIY4X 1st gen engine crossmember, cross tied shackles, 14bolt spring pads, and Alcan lift springs. Have an order placed for all the other misc. parts to get to a roller again (bushings, bolts, etc).

I guess when you summarize what you've been doing the last 5 months it seems like more progress...

[SeventyOne]

Originally Posted by NW_Ryker

I'm excited to see how this truck will turn out. I hope you don't mud her too hard though. Are you putting the same motor/ tranny/ t-case in?

Sad to say my plans for her don't include a whole lot of dirt time - but as the newness wears off and the paint dulls I'm sure my mind will change.

Speaking of the engine......I got ripped off by a company on the east coast for the engine they were supposedly building for me. T&L Engine took my deposit of $3K and ran off into the sunset. So my budget is now out the window (which is why you will see a spray painted frame rather than a blasted an powdercoated frame among other cost savers). Anyways I am thinking of these 3 engines now: GMPP 350 (either carbed or ramjet version) or their HT383. Tranny will be a 700r4 (I noticed Monster Trans. dropped thier prices on the one they offer by a few hundred so I might jump on that now. Tcase will be the stock NP205 after I go through it.

[Liddy71]

that sucks $3k gone

[Burt4x4]

Get a 454 and
Sucks you got ripped...pleanty of local builders were you live...never had a crate engine before. I almost went with that 383HT but I ended up getting a '74 454 "running when pulled" out of a 2x4 truck and spent the same amount of money getting that rebuilt, balanced and added Edelbrock MPFI. Throttle reponce is amazing and all that torque right off idle is alot of fun too
Good Luck