Anybody ever heard of "Fish" Carburetors and their supposed 100+mpg??

[Vintage Windmills]

Originally Posted by DANTIP

A friend of mine is an engineer at Ford and specializes in port fuel-injection system design. We have had many conversations regarding carburetors, fuel-injection, fuel mix ratios, etc. My wife doesn't hang around long when we talk. Basically, gasoline engines operate properly when the optimum mixture of fuel and air is maintained. These guys get into enormous detail but it comes down to mixing the best/optimum amount of fuel with a given (or measured) amount of air. He admitted the best performing carburetor for road-driven vehicles is a properly set-up Quadrajet. Their testing shows a Q-Jet can approach port fuel-injection performance and economy.

Claims of dramatically better fuel economy with different gadgets aren't real.

My friend did convince me to buy a digital read-out system for carburetor set-up. These devices rely on an O2 sensor (you have to weld a bung into the exhaust pipe) to give you a mixture readout. With this and a setup procedure for the Q-jet, you can feel good about your carb performance. Indiana does not require any testing of tailpipe emissions, but I'll bet the mixture device could help you nail a lean setup that would aid in passing a sniff test.

I bet he will also tell you that even if a vehicle is 100% efficent, you'll still only get 30-40mpg due to wind resistance and tire to road resistance. It takes that much gas to keep it moving. Anyone will tell you this that has done the math or understands physics

Edit: this only applies for full size trucks, smaller vehicle #'s can be higher.

[Stocker]

Originally Posted by leddzepp

wonder if barney miller used one?

[blazerboy_4life]

Well once I get my 350 Built and put in I will be experimenting with the 305 that I have and see just what kind of mileage I can pull out of it. My single and only focus on it will be fuel economy. If it turns out that it doesnt have enough power to pull around my 70' SWB then Ill just throw it in my CJ2A.

As far as fuel economy gimmics go I seen a little device that is sold at Best Buy recently that plugs into your cigarette lighter and is supposed to balance out your electrical system. I guess its kind of like a Monster Power Center for your home theater system in that it balances out all the static in your electrical system resulting in better spark and performance from your components ultimately leading to better mileage. Best part is the Price. Its $60 for this silly thing!

[Tkmadone]

I had one on my MGB for a while. I went from 21mpg to about 23. It was cool because it was so simple and I would have kept it but it didn't have a choke so it was annoying when cold. I think I still have it somewhere...

[VA72C10]

Originally Posted by Tkmadone

I think I still have it somewhere...

I think if I did I'd be looking for it and have it on ebay within the hour

[406 Q-ship]

Fish carburators is from the 1950's.

[Jeffs70]

never heard of it but I bet on most cars/trucks if they stopped all the fuel emissions and smog bs that cars would run better. get rid of half the crap under the hood and save people money.

[Jeffs70]

maybe you can fab up your own plate to go on your existing intake with a few gaskets just to get the thing working good enough to test it..just a suggestion

[blazerboy_4life]

Originally Posted by Jeffs70

maybe you can fab up your own plate to go on your existing intake with a few gaskets just to get the thing working good enough to test it..just a suggestion

Id thought about that. Is it really that simple though? Just... make it the right shape and air tight?

[OhOneWS6]

Originally Posted by blazerboy_4life

Id thought about that. Is it really that simple though? Just... make it the right shape and air tight?

Pretty much.





From here:
http://www.fireballroberts.com/Fish_Pictures.htm

[blazerboy_4life]

Originally Posted by OhOneWS6

Pretty much.





From here:
http://www.fireballroberts.com/Fish_Pictures.htm

Oh, Nifty. Nice find. Ive been trying to track down an adapter plate but i cant find anything on google or ebay. Now that I have pics I might try to fab something up that looks just like it.

[5150.4.67]

Then we'll hear about the magnets on the gas line.
Then we'll hear about injecting hydrogen into the carb.
Then we'll hear about the air cleaner that swirls the air and improves mileage.
Then we'll hear about the split fire spark plugs that studies have shown improve mileage.

Lets add it up, hehehe.

I figure if I run that fancy carb with hydrogen injection made from my alternator and the free water in my windshield washer fluid, an air kotex or vortex swirler thingy, 10 cow magnets stuck on the side of the carb, super duper 4 electrode spark plugs (indexed of course), and my balance magnet braclet should put me at ...........

653 miles per gallon.

[special-K]

Maybe they should change the name. Something about the name makes me envision high consumption. You know...drinks like a fish?

[VA72C10]

Originally Posted by special-K

Maybe they should change the name. Something about the name makes me envision high consumption. You know...drinks like a fish?

good point....not exactly marketing genius to use the Fish name on a "low consumption" item....

[blazerboy_4life]

Had a hellova time finding it on the website but here is my favorite of all the fuel savers Ive seen.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Fuel+Doc...ustomerreviews

[Tkmadone]

I do still have it. Kinda cool and it looks like it would fit that adapter.