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**LockDoc** · 01-24-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

Leon, you haven't answered my question yet...the suspense is killing me..dually?

You will get your answer tonight or tomorrow morning.....

LockDoc

**Ol Blue K20** · 01-24-2022, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

You will get your answer tonight or tomorrow morning.....

LockDoc

ok, I'll keep myself entertained for now....

68Gold/white · 01-24-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

Leon, you haven't answered my question yet...the suspense is killing me..dually?

Read post 13...........You will HAVE to wait also

**LockDoc** · 01-24-2022, 11:58 PM

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Finished spraying the frame today. I have some touch-up to do on it but it came out pretty good.

Now to get the engine and transmission set down in it.

LockDoc

Low Elco · 01-25-2022, 03:20 AM

Can't wait to see where it goes, Leon. Hope you and Pat are well.

**Ol Blue K20** · 01-25-2022, 05:19 AM

My question has been answered...

. Looking good!

CG · 01-25-2022, 12:05 PM

My guess is you didn’t want the stiffness of a one ton in back, but could you have swapped in one ton hangers and springs using the 3/4 ton mounting holes?

**LockDoc** · 01-25-2022, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Low Elco

Can't wait to see where it goes, Leon. Hope you and Pat are well.

Thanks Chip, We are doing good. Pat had her right knee replaced a couple of months ago and is doing great.

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

My question has been answered...

. Looking good!

Yup, 8ft bed C30 dually....

Thanks Dale.

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Originally Posted by CG

My guess is you didn’t want the stiffness of a one ton in back, but could you have swapped in one ton hangers and springs using the 3/4 ton mounting holes?

No, it wouldn't be a direct swap because the frames are different. The C&C frames are straight in the back and the C20 frames have a kickout. I may end up having to narrow the front hangers a little too but I am going to try it this way first. I even thought about going to 1 ton coils & trailing arms on it. I have some off of an ambulance.

LockDoc

CG · 01-25-2022, 02:57 PM

So you would have had to space out the one ton stuff, interesting.

I had no idea they made trailing arms and coils in one tons.

**LockDoc** · 01-25-2022, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CG

So you would have had to space out the one ton stuff, interesting.

I had no idea they made trailing arms and coils in one tons.

No, the one ton C&C spring hanger brackets need to be made narrower, or new ones need to be made like I did for the rear. I narrowed those up by about 2 inches.

Also, they didn't have trailing arms and coils in any one tons. I was going to convert it to trailing arms and coils. I would have had to add a trailing arm cross member, C20 trailing arms, and weld coil spring pads on the rear end housing. The 1 ton coils I have I removed from the rear of a Chevy ambulance that had the heavy duty coils.

Sorry about the confusion....

LockDoc

**LockDoc** · 01-26-2022, 09:04 PM

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Installed the 2003 Chevy engine and transmission this morning. It was originally a 4x4 so I had to source a 2WD transmission for it. I had an ad on CL to buy just the rear tail housing and yoke so I could switch it over. A guy called me and said he had a complete 2WD transmission that he would sell me about as cheap as I could buy the parts and switch mine over..... $500.00. Needless to say, I went and picked it up. I had to make a rear transmission mount because the 2003 mount was too tall. I used a stock TH350 transmission cross member for the rear trans mount. If I had dropped the center of the cross member I could have used the stock Allison rear mount but I think that would have made the engine angle too severe. This is why I installed the '72 big block frame brackets and mounts. (Now 68Gold/white has his answer too.) ..

LockDoc

**FL71C10** · 01-27-2022, 12:12 PM

That's a beefy looking powertrain!

**LockDoc** · 01-27-2022, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FL71C10

That's a beefy looking powertrain!

Yup, Work truck....

.. Chevy 8.1 496ci with an Allison 1000 5 speed overdrive transmission.

LockDoc

**Palf70Step** · 01-27-2022, 02:50 PM

Sounds like a great combo!

El Dorado Jim · 01-27-2022, 11:35 PM

nice project

**LockDoc** · 01-27-2022, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step

Sounds like a great combo!

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Originally Posted by El Dorado Jim

nice project

Thanks guys. I am looking forward to driving it for sure.

LockDoc

**LockDoc** · 01-27-2022, 11:43 PM

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Set the cab back on the frame today. I had to cut the low hump out and install a high hump. I have about an inch clearance from the transmission to the hump with the new body mounts. I am ready to set the bed back on but I need to do some cleanup, priming, and painting on the back of the cab and front of the bed before I do, and it's raining today. Bummer!

I will also need to widen the in bed wheel tubs but I want to see exactly how much I am going to need first.

EDIT: I can't believe I forgot to take a picture of the actual cab sitting on the frame. I thought I took one but it isn't on my camera card so not sure what happened. Oh well, you can see it when I get the bed on.....

LockDoc

**Ol Blue K20** · 01-28-2022, 07:40 AM

You're moving right along, great progress...

**Dieselwrencher** · 01-28-2022, 08:48 AM

Nice work Leon! Are the bell housing bolts pretty tight at the firewall. It looks like it might be real fun to swap a trans in? Probably still better than the newer trucks though.

68Gold/white · 01-28-2022, 03:09 PM

Leon, Are those rear tires, Keepers???
They look like you are planning to attach a plow to the trailer ball, and turn some ground...LOL!!!

fatbass · 01-28-2022, 04:04 PM

Subscribed. Real work truck.

**LockDoc** · 01-29-2022, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

You're moving right along, great progress...

Thanks Dale.

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Nice work Leon! Are the bell housing bolts pretty tight at the firewall. It looks like it might be real fun to swap a trans in? Probably still better than the newer trucks though.

I will double check in the morning Ryan. I forgot to look today.

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Originally Posted by 68Gold/white

Leon, Are those rear tires, Keepers???
They look like you are planning to attach a plow to the trailer ball, and turn some ground...LOL!!!

Pulling truck...

.... They will all be new when I get ready to start driving it.....

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Originally Posted by fatbass

Subscribed. Real work truck.

Thanks.

LockDoc

**LockDoc** · 01-29-2022, 10:40 PM

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My pictures came up missing when I set the cab back on (or I forgot to take any) So here is the cab AND the bed back on the frame....

I won't have to widen the rear wheel tubs all that much. I will do that in the next couple of days. Everything fit really well. Progress!

EDIT: I removed the cheapie hitch after I took these pictures.

LockDoc

rickcdewitt · 01-30-2022, 12:40 AM

That looks awesome. What is the rear axle out of? Ratio?

**LockDoc** · 01-30-2022, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rickcdewitt

That looks awesome. What is the rear axle out of? Ratio?

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Thanks,

Rear axle is an Eaton HO72, 5.14 ratio, out of a '67 Chevy Cab & Chassis truck.

LockDoc

01-24-2022, 11:58 PM	#4
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,656	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread - Finished spraying the frame today. I have some touch-up to do on it but it came out pretty good. Now to get the engine and transmission set down in it. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

01-25-2022, 03:20 AM	#5
Low Elco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indep, MO Posts: 5,893	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread Can't wait to see where it goes, Leon. Hope you and Pat are well. __________________ Boppa's Old Yeller Truck Build, Old Yeller's New Heart! Project Buzz Bomb Flyin' Low!

01-25-2022, 05:19 AM	#6
Ol Blue K20 Proprietor of Dale's Corner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Vacaville , CA Posts: 16,243	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread My question has been answered.... Looking good! __________________ "Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man R.I.P. FleetsidePaul

01-25-2022, 12:05 PM	#7
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,995	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread My guess is you didn’t want the stiffness of a one ton in back, but could you have swapped in one ton hangers and springs using the 3/4 ton mounting holes? __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

01-25-2022, 02:57 PM	#9
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,995	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread So you would have had to space out the one ton stuff, interesting. I had no idea they made trailing arms and coils in one tons. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

01-26-2022, 09:04 PM	#11
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,656	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread - Installed the 2003 Chevy engine and transmission this morning. It was originally a 4x4 so I had to source a 2WD transmission for it. I had an ad on CL to buy just the rear tail housing and yoke so I could switch it over. A guy called me and said he had a complete 2WD transmission that he would sell me about as cheap as I could buy the parts and switch mine over..... $500.00. Needless to say, I went and picked it up. I had to make a rear transmission mount because the 2003 mount was too tall. I used a stock TH350 transmission cross member for the rear trans mount. If I had dropped the center of the cross member I could have used the stock Allison rear mount but I think that would have made the engine angle too severe. This is why I installed the '72 big block frame brackets and mounts. (Now 68Gold/white has his answer too.) .. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 08-14-2023 at 10:29 PM.

01-27-2022, 12:12 PM	#12
FL71C10 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,508	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread That's a beefy looking powertrain! __________________ 71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with 4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.

01-27-2022, 02:50 PM	#14
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,090	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread Sounds like a great combo! __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-27-2022, 11:35 PM	#15
El Dorado Jim Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: El Dorado Ca Posts: 3,374	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread nice project

01-27-2022, 11:43 PM	#17
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,656	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread - Set the cab back on the frame today. I had to cut the low hump out and install a high hump. I have about an inch clearance from the transmission to the hump with the new body mounts. I am ready to set the bed back on but I need to do some cleanup, priming, and painting on the back of the cab and front of the bed before I do, and it's raining today. Bummer! I will also need to widen the in bed wheel tubs but I want to see exactly how much I am going to need first. EDIT: I can't believe I forgot to take a picture of the actual cab sitting on the frame. I thought I took one but it isn't on my camera card so not sure what happened. Oh well, you can see it when I get the bed on..... LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 01-27-2022 at 11:47 PM. Reason: Add text

01-28-2022, 07:40 AM	#18
Ol Blue K20 Proprietor of Dale's Corner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Vacaville , CA Posts: 16,243	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread You're moving right along, great progress... __________________ "Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man R.I.P. FleetsidePaul

01-28-2022, 08:48 AM	#19
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread Nice work Leon! Are the bell housing bolts pretty tight at the firewall. It looks like it might be real fun to swap a trans in? Probably still better than the newer trucks though. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

01-28-2022, 03:09 PM	#20
68Gold/white Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ark City, Kansas Posts: 3,387	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread Leon, Are those rear tires, Keepers??? They look like you are planning to attach a plow to the trailer ball, and turn some ground...LOL!!!

01-28-2022, 04:04 PM	#21
fatbass Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: South Ogden, Utah Posts: 172	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread Subscribed. Real work truck. __________________ '71 C/20 350/T350.

01-29-2022, 10:40 PM	#23
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,656	Re: LockDoc's "Low Budget", "Low Maintenance" Project Thread - My pictures came up missing when I set the cab back on (or I forgot to take any) So here is the cab AND the bed back on the frame.... I won't have to widen the rear wheel tubs all that much. I will do that in the next couple of days. Everything fit really well. Progress! EDIT: I removed the cheapie hitch after I took these pictures. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -



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