Help with Buying 71 Cheyenne SWB

[Redline novdog]

the blue one out east for 12 grand! You should be able to fly out and drive it home for that amount! The A/C belt hasn't been on the compressor for awhile (rusted pulley). Don't like the carma on the blue one. Black one looks good,but looks can be deceiving!Buyer beware!

[Mapearso]

Black one is sold

Blue one.. or the search continues

[Mapearso]

Here is a link to a whole bunch of pics on my photobucket --

http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/Ma...?sort=3&page=1

Going thru Hart Rod's checklist of the usual problem spots --

Cab corners -- driver side showing some rust-- possibly thru. pass side looks ok. from the welds i am guessing this is all original sheet metal?

Outer rockers -- driver side looks good, pass side looks good

Inner rockers -- not sure?

Cab supports -- Look ok to me

Front fender bottoms -- both look good

Inside kickpanels -- driver side showing some rust, doesnt appear to have gone thru. pass side looks like only surface rust

Bottom of the doors -- driver side surface rust. pass side bubbling

Top of cab -- Pass side looks a little funky toward the rear. Front edge looks ok. BTW -- Can anyone tell what's up with that windshield seal??

Firewall -- all looks good to me

Under the battery (inner fender/core support area) -- looks good to me

Inside of the bed -- looks good to me

Bottom of the tailgate -- minor surface rust on the driver side corner?

PLEASE take a look and let me know your thoughts. I've done my fair share of 66-67 GM A-Bodys and know what to look for and what to run from. B ut this would be my first 67-72 Chevy truck.

I like this one a lot and $12K seems reasonable given how prices have gone up recently.

Thanks again for your input!!

[big mike71]

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/4779671384.html This one looks pretty nice.

[Mapearso]

Anyone. Please check my photobucket pics and let me know your thoughts on this 72 SWB

ASK IS $12k

THANKS!!

http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/Ma...?sort=3&page=1

[cleanfreak]

Has the owner told you of any frame modifications, or have you asked him?

[Mapearso]

Originally Posted by cleanfreak

Has the owner told you of any frame modifications, or have you asked him?

He tells me it is stock, unmodified

[cleanfreak]

Originally Posted by Mapearso

He tells me it is stock, unmodified

Then post pic #1886,and see what the 'experts' say about it. I find if hard to believe you can't find a good shortbed on the west coast , close enough to look at

[Mapearso]

Originally Posted by cleanfreak

Then post pic #1886,and see what the 'experts' say about it. I find if hard to believe you can't find a good shortbed on the west coast , close enough to look at

here's the pic

yes, surprisingly tough to find a nice unrestored c10 SWB locally

[cardreams]

If a was looking at the truck to restore the doors,Floor are very bad,front pass fender looks bad to me am not sure what your looking for in the end if your looking to restore this or just drive it like this but in my opinion and I have bought and sold over 15-20 of these trucks in the past 4years this to me is about a 8k to 9k truck you can find a better truck for the 12k he is asking

[cardreams]

I would give you 15k for this truck over 12 k for the blue one any day

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...d-truck&cat=12

[magwakeenercew2jh]

A few questions come to mind:

1) Since you said you're looking for an "unrestored" truck, does that mean you are going to restore it?

-if so-

1a) How much money do you have in the kitty?
1b) How "deep" would you go?
1c) How much do you know..or are willing to learn about the process?

2) If you want an unrestored driver, then you REALLY have to know what you're getting. How does it *feel*?
How does it *sound*? How does it *track*? Read: See it, feel it, drive it.

But wait! I would never be so bold as to suggest what someone should do about this gearhead stuff.
Too emotional are these purchases.

On it's face, the blue one looks nice. I suspect the seller is very honest.

I may have glossed over this, but from the pics of the firewall, it clearly looks like a full repaint. There's rust to deal with...
Even though the rust looks like it is generally in the typical spots. The floor of the cab and the top of the windshield look
troublesome to me.

If I were pondering it for myself, I'd want to consider the fact that it would have to come apart...all the way to the frame....
and start with the restoration process in ernest. Read that with a capital $$$$. And also with a capital "F"-"U"-"N".

So, for my money, and short of getting in a plane and inspecting it myself, and whether they are scarce as hen's teeth or not, I'd enjoy shopping
until I found a *completely unrestored* truck that I had to take apart and start the proce$$.

Or, I'd change my tune and do another one like mine. I have $30k in a frame off resto-mod...ground up...(almost) stock running gear (350/350/3.07's),
and it's probably only worth about $15k. If I had a gas station, I could drive it to New York and back ten times without hearing a driveline or suspension
thud or squeak. But it's just a driver.

So, really, it depends on what you are looking for.

As for me, if I were picking one out for a full resto or a stock driver, and after pondering the pictures, I'd do some more shopping .
Then again, I might be booking a plane ride to Burnsville, NC to drive at that red one.

Then again, you fall in love...you fall in love.
And it's probably a very nice truck.

[Already Gone]

You say you are looking for a truck and your first post was November 18th. I don't know if just decided to get a truck in the last couple weeks or have been looking for quite a while but a lot of the fun in getting a truck is in the hunt. The side bonus with the hunt is the knowledge you gain every time you check out a truck. It sounds to me like you know what you want so now take what ever time it takes to find the right truck and as you can tell you will get all the help and advice you need from this site

[zicc1835]

now theres some solid advice/statements/questions and a very nice looking truck

Originally Posted by magwakeenercew2jh

A few questions come to mind:

1) Since you said you're looking for an "unrestored" truck, does that mean you are going to restore it?

-if so-

1a) How much money do you have in the kitty?
1b) How "deep" would you go?
1c) How much do you know..or are willing to learn about the process?

2) If you want an unrestored driver, then you REALLY have to know what you're getting. How does it *feel*?
How does it *sound*? How does it *track*? Read: See it, feel it, drive it.

But wait! I would never be so bold as to suggest what someone should do about this gearhead stuff.
Too emotional are these purchases.

On it's face, the blue one looks nice. I suspect the seller is very honest.

I may have glossed over this, but from the pics of the firewall, it clearly looks like a full repaint. There's rust to deal with...
Even though the rust looks like it is generally in the typical spots. The floor of the cab and the top of the windshield look
troublesome to me.

If I were pondering it for myself, I'd want to consider the fact that it would have to come apart...all the way to the frame....
and start with the restoration process in ernest. Read that with a capital $$$$. And also with a capital "F"-"U"-"N".

So, for my money, and short of getting in a plane and inspecting it myself, and whether they are scarce as hen's teeth or not, I'd enjoy shopping
until I found a *completely unrestored* truck that I had to take apart and start the proce$$.

Or, I'd change my tune and do another one like mine. I have $30k in a frame off resto-mod...ground up...stock running gear (350/350),
and it's probably only worth about $15k. If I had a gas station, I could drive it to New York and back ten times without hearing a driveline or suspension
thud or squeak. But it's just a driver.

So, really, it depends on what you are looking for.

As for me, if I were picking one out for a full resto or a stock driver, and after pondering the pictures, I'd do some more shopping .
Then again, I might be booking a plane ride to Burnsville, NC to drive at that red one.

Then again, you fall in love...you fall in love.
And it's probably a very nice truck.

[Mapearso]

Thanks guys. I've been hunting for a while, finally found something decent in the blue one... But I'm gonna pass on it and keep looking.

Appreciate all the input!

[stsalvage]

My hole thing with these trucks is one thing I'm not a body man cancer to me is work and time i really don't want to invest in.Thats why i take some cardboard and if its on some place paved take you roller cart and roll under the dang thing If you see cancer in the floor board Unless its going for like 500.00 and it has a 396 400 and some other sweet deals like a straight bed And a Coil spring rear end with a 12 bolt Posi nice but i will take the peg leg.

At least you will have a parts truck to steal the stuff you really want or sell to pay for your truck that your going to buy

But Cancer in or near the windshield is a major no no If you a body guy them they have a shot Cancer in the floor boards is still a no no for me rocker not bad but finding one with no cancer in the floor or the top of the cab where in business.

My 1967 3 door suburban one one problem cancer in one rocker panel as you can see its one straight mother even the quarter panels are straight bought this one 16 years ago for $400.00 and the guy even towed it to my house It did not have the front Fender clip no motor or trans But the rest of its there.

The 1968 longhorn payed $400.00 for it at a tow yard 396 400 with Air No cancer every thing i bought 10 years ago i have one deal barker No Cancer Rust is different

[stsalvage]

My 1971 Cheyenne Has one cancer spot a quarter side round hole in the drivers rocker panel Other then that pay 650.00 in 2008 when are lovley housing market and most of you where trying to keep your houses i was out buying old car's or pulling them out of houses that where Foreclosed on them where the fun times.

My partner that at the time had a tow truck In calif alone found 16 camaro's ripped apart on the side of people new foreclosed houses Chevelles, Nova's, Corvettes, Mustangs boats RV's trailers.

It was a hay day in 2008-2009 He even stored 2 1968 chargers in my back yard for 30 days and lien titled them gave me $2000.00 for storing them gave me a 1968 Camaro RS it needed help I sold it for 5000.00.

But it was heaven from 2004--2008 for selling your car for top money with all the Refinance your house deal

[stsalvage]

today's autos and trucks are the car's and trucks that where passed over Or people wanted to hang on to them cus they thought they might build it now days.Remember this By a truck that you don't have to pay the money.

The more closer its close to being done just one more step you don't have to do

[68bowtie]

here's a cheaper option...

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/4781303266.html

[stsalvage]

seen that one there is another one in AZ that's is yellow for 6800.oo and its well worth it

[Mapearso]

Originally Posted by 68bowtie

here's a cheaper option...

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/4781303266.html

Looks more promising
Thanks!

[Mapearso]

If there's anyone in the Phoenix area who can take a look I would be really grateful and make it worth your time
Thanks!

[Already Gone]

Looks like the spid is still on the inside of the glove box lid which is good. Looking at the front signal lights there isn't a front bumper with the truck but that isn't a big deal.

[magwakeenercew2jh]

Let's be clear...Any truck can be picked apart unmercifully. The question with your buy has to be, "....is the value there?"
And, on this one add, "...at $5,800."

I see some costs that will be obvious. I listed them on the attachment. With the exception of the vents, which is really
no big deal, and the fact that I'd want to know if the rest of the e-brake is there under the truck...also no really big deal
(like the broken windshield), the cut dash (if I'm seeing it right) won't fit with your "restore" mode too easily.

The costs that could be staggering on this one would be more clear if you followed the rust on the floor and kick panels
to see how fu-barred the doors ....and anything else that touches that cancer...have been left to bubble.

Under the hood looks funky but original. In those pics, I can't really see if that's a mess or stock down by the prop valve.

Any time the ad says, "needs a compressor"? (sometimes they say, "only needs a belt and a re-charge"), I'd count on
way more before the cab gets nice and cool. However, running down the road at 75% inside the cab on a 90° L.A.
day should be the least of your concerns at this point.

For me, if I found out it ran ...just ran and shifted....and the rust was typical but not structurallly damaging... including
roached inner and outer rockers, but the doors weren't toast, etc......, I'd be in for $3,000.

Then again, if it shows really a lot better than the pics, runs around the block, stops, and feels pretty solid, and the rust
is just surface (hard to think it is, but who knows?) I wouldn't shy away from $4,000 on this one.

I've only built two frame-offs for myself. But I've worked on a ton of these trucks. Next time I do it, I'm coming up with
more money on the front end to avoid some of the surprise money-pits I've fallen into in the past.

But that's just me.

[Fatherflash]

look at what else is available. Some close to you:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4777344372.html

Maybe not what you're looking for:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4751015137.html

Other choices
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4763617970.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4740177306.html

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4766937126.html

This guy has been trying to sell this truck for four months. Originally started at $17k

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/4774447632.html

Bren