this really bites...

[silvertonguedevil]

Originally Posted by cdowns

HEY that's a picture of the proper lugnuts!!!!
as far as the stud replacement the way i look at it if all 4wheels were on the truck improperly installed that means all 24studs were subjected to the same destructive stress levels and all 24 studs should be replaced ,or you can just replace a few now and wait to replace the others as the other wheels fall off

LMFAO! And,.....on top of that, if the wrong lug nuts were installed, the lug nuts are now garbage, along with the studs as previously mentioned, AND the wheels as well. If the mating surface is damaged from having the wrong lug nuts installed, (pinching or misforming the aluminum) the wheels can not be trusted anymore and should be recycled and made into beer cans so that we can all enjoy this incident for a long time to come!!

[LUV2XCLR8]

I'M GLAD 2 PART OF A BOARD WITH SO MUCH LOVE NICE PIC'S

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by CPNE

I agree, you need shank style (mag style) lugnuts like these

Don't confuse the guy.

There are two styles of rims. One is hubcentric and some use the lug you pictures. Some are lug centric and lugcentric used the cone styl lug nuts he had.

Where the problem here is that mag wheels sheld be retorqued after 50-100 miles. A seccond problem peopl have is when the swich to a different rim the fail to clean the hub and bolt the rim on a uneven surface that is often rust covered. WHen the rust breaks up then the wheel is loose. You loose a few lug nuts and the wheel starts to wobble and snaps off some of the wheel studs......JUST like what your pictures show.

Check and make sure you rim isn't bent and if the lug holes are wollowed out you might not want to use that rim.

[silvertonguedevil]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

Don't confuse the guy.

There are two styles of rims. One is hubcentric and some use the lug you pictures. Some are lug centric and lugcentric used the cone styl lug nuts he had.

Where the problem here is that mag wheels sheld be retorqued after 50-100 miles. A seccond problem peopl have is when the swich to a different rim the fail to clean the hub and bolt the rim on a uneven surface that is often rust covered. WHen the rust breaks up then the wheel is loose. You loose a few lug nuts and the wheel starts to wobble and snaps off some of the wheel studs......JUST like what your pictures show.

Check and make sure you rim isn't bent and if the lug holes are wollowed out you might not want to use that rim.

How was that confusing? I think it's very to-the-point. These are only suggestions considering the situation is not right in front of any one of us. We are trying to diagnose this problem with nothing more to go on other than some crappy pictures. We're just trying to help him be aware of every possibility. I don't think it is fair for you to knock anyone's opinion because unless you've driven over to the guy's house and looked for yourself, you may not have the answers either....which in turn may make your answer confusing. But yes, your diagnosis is another possible option

[blazerholic]

Sheesh! Did things just turn ugly up in here or what???

[67cst]

Lol John, Someone Finally Agrees!!!

[chevjayfsd]

Silvertonguedevil: LMFAO! And,.....on top of that, if the wrong lug nuts were installed, the lug nuts are now garbage, along with the studs as previously mentioned, AND the wheels as well. If the mating surface is damaged from having the wrong lug nuts installed, (pinching or misforming the aluminum) the wheels can not be trusted anymore and should be recycled and made into beer cans so that we can all enjoy this incident for a long time to come!!

Silvertonguedevil: How was that confusing? I think it's very to-the-point. These are only suggestions considering the situation is not right in front of any one of us. We are trying to diagnose this problem with nothing more to go on other than some crappy pictures. We're just trying to help him be aware of every possibility. I don't think it is fair for you to knock anyone's opinion because unless you've driven over to the guy's house and looked for yourself, you may not have the answers either....which in turn may make your answer confusing. But yes, your diagnosis is another possible option

Silvertonguedevil who? Some of you are not trying to diagnose the problem or make him aware of every possibility, but rag on the guy for making a mistake..! There is a difference between constructive critsism and trying to make a fool of someone! If you were him, I'm sure you wouldn't want people ragging on you? Now would you? IMHO someone as new as you to the board, doesen't have the right....

Shame on everyone who ragged on the guy, and there's more than 1....

Sorry everyone, just had to vent...
Jason

[cdowns]

Originally Posted by blazerholic

Sheesh! Did things just turn ugly up in here or what???

UGLY?? i don't think so !! all i see is a bunch of advise to a guy who got himself into a very dangerous situation
i for one don't want to humiliate him or make light of the situation, i feel bad for him that on a limited budget he made a costly mistake, but on the other hand i want him to be aware of the seriousness of the situation HIS LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT!!

UGLY ?? UGLY IS DEAD IN A DITCH WITH WHEEL FAILURE @60MPH

[Pont]

Well, I hope dinnut got his problem resolved. cdowns, I agree with you to some degree (on a previous post) that oversized (wide) rims and major offset do put extra stress on the wheel studs but this is not the problem he is having. My rims are 14" wide and my truck is a daily driver. 2 1/2 years after installing my lift, wheels & tires, I have never had a wheel stud problem and as far as I know, the wheel studs on my truck are original 67. I don't mean to single anyone out about advise given, but let's think about what we are telling someone before we post. I don't always have the money to shop and replace parts by trial and error and I'm sure others don't either.

Overall, I think that all the advise was good and gave dinnut something to think about. I wouldn't be eager however, to suggest that he needs to run a narrower wheel to solve the problem.

[blazerholic]

Originally Posted by cdowns

UGLY?? i don't think so !! all i see is a bunch of advise to a guy who got himself into a very dangerous situation
i for one don't want to humiliate him or make light of the situation, i feel bad for him that on a limited budget he made a costly mistake, but on the other hand i want him to be aware of the seriousness of the situation HIS LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT!!

UGLY ?? UGLY IS DEAD IN A DITCH WITH WHEEL FAILURE @60MPH

I was simply reffering to the grief dinnut was gettin for making the same mistake many of us have made in the past. Guess I'll just shut the f**k up next time... Who knows, maybe someone was tryin to swipe his wheels and got spooked after getting a couple lugs loose...

[chevjayfsd]

AMEN Blazerholic you understand what i'm saying, people should know better than to make fun of someone who made a mistake...I'm sure he is hesitant to post now because of this whole ordeal....

Jason

[grayw0lf]

There is nothing like the human touch. I use my impact wrench to remove the the lugnuts, but I ALWAYS tighten then by hand.

[cdowns]

you people with the theiven loose lugnut theory have you really looked at the pictures?? to me i see he has 7/16 studs and the holes in the rims that the studs go thru appear to be at least 11/16inch maybe 3/4inch and by using the wrong lugnuts added to by the pressure of the severe offset of the rims THAT's THE PROBLEM and the cause of the stud failure and the possiblally destroyed rims

[junkyardjohn]

Originally Posted by chevjayfsd

AMEN Blazerholic you understand what i'm saying, people should know better than to make fun of someone who made a mistake...I'm sure he is hesitant to post now because of this whole ordeal....

Jason

4195 POSTS IN 14 MONTHS??? YEP... I'LL BET HE HESITATES ALONG TIME B-4 POSTING AGAIN. NOBODY WAS MAKING FUN OF THIS SITUATION ... IT WAS ALREADY FUN. JOHN

[silvertonguedevil]

I was obviously misunderstood. I wasn't trying to make him feel stupid. I was just trying to make light of a situation that did not (luckily) become a dangerous one.

[silvertonguedevil]

And as far as how long I have been around.....? What does that have to do with anything?

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Bummer !!!!! Gotta get the right lugnut's !!!!

[chevjayfsd]

IF THAT HAPPENED TO ME WITH ONE OF MY TRUCKS, I WOULD BE WAY TO EMBARRASSED TO TELL ANYONE, LET ALONE PUT PICTURES ON THE INTERNET.

NOBODY WAS MAKING FUN OF THIS SITUATION ... IT WAS ALREADY FUN.

Thats a bunch of BS John, have you read the posts? Including yours??? This situation was not already FUN, just look at the freakin topic title.... This may end up costing him an arm and a leg if he has to buy a new rim.... It's not FUN spending money for some of us... If you had been in this situation and people were throwing jokes around about how "Funny" the truck looks and how someone would be "embarrassed to tell anyone or post pics on the internet, I am damn sure you would be mad. It makes a person niave to not recognise that as making fun of someone. Just because some people on this board are not as "truck-smart" as others, doesen't give the right for anyone to make fun of anyone else, especially their pride and joy.....

I am not usually one to get involved like this, but this is just uncalled for...

Jason

[craigg1]

The first thing I would do is be thankful It didn't happen while driving 55 down the highway. Then, I would probably take it to a local wheel/tire dealer and get a bit of expert advice on the situation. They probably wouldn't even charge you just to tell you what they think the problem/solution would be. Lots of good advice on the board, but you need to have someone that can look at it in person.

[junkyardjohn]

Originally Posted by chevjayfsd

Thats a bunch of BS John, have you read the posts? Including yours??? This situation was not already FUN, just look at the freakin topic title.... This may end up costing him an arm and a leg if he has to buy a new rim.... It's not FUN spending money for some of us... If you had been in this situation and people were throwing jokes around about how "Funny" the truck looks and how someone would be "embarrassed to tell anyone or post pics on the internet, I am damn sure you would be mad. It makes a person niave to not recognise that as making fun of someone. Just because some people on this board are not as "truck-smart" as others, doesen't give the right for anyone to make fun of anyone else, especially their pride and joy.....

I am not usually one to get involved like this, but this is just uncalled for...

Jason

LIGHTEN UP JASON .. IF IT WAS YOUR TRUCK OR MINE IT WOULD BE JUST AS FUNNY. NO ONE WAS HURT, & IF YOU OR ANY ONE ELSE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COMMON SENSE TO TELL WITCH LUG NUTS GO WITH WHAT RIMS, THEY OUGHT TO ASK FOR ADVISE BEFORE THEY'RE TIRE FALLS OFF OR STICK WITH THE STOCK RIMS. I DARE ANYONE TO LOOK AT THAT PICTURE & NOT CHUCKLE, & IF IT'S POSTED ON THE INTERNET... SORRY.... IT'S FUNNY. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO DECIDE WHAT IS FUNNY & WHATS NOT. LETS ALL BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. YAH SURE. LMFAOROTF JOHN

[chevjayfsd]

You're Wrong John.... If it were my truck and that happened to me, I would already be pissed while I was driving to the bank for money to fix it...But on top of that he has people like you "chuckling." You were giving him adequate advice, but there was no need for poking fun... The first time I looked at the above pics, I did not chuckle... I felt sorry for the man. Trucks are a way of life around here and when something like this happens to someone elses truck, at least have an ounce of respect....

Jason

[silvertonguedevil]

why don't you ask dinnut?

[1969 GMC]

i think some of you guys saw the pics of dinnut's Benz...ever think that a little rougher than normal driving caused this? To me, seeing the pics of the Benz now this, I think that we are qualified to have a laugh at this situation.

[chevjayfsd]

what happened to his Benz???

[Terry Peerson]

When I first bought my Cragar s/s wheels, the lug nuts that came with them were for a late model Chevy truck. They were for 14-mm studs. My '72 Cheyenne has 1/2"-20's. I couldn't find any tire shops in town that had anyone that had any idea what I needed. One custom wheel store sold me some nuts that were the proper size but the "shank" was too long. I even ruined a couple of the studs by using nuts that were too long and tightened them too tight and broke the studs right off. I even considered using two washers. Really bad idea. I thought I had made a big mistake even trying to use the Cragars. I was very discouraged at that point. So I turned to e-bay. That's right, e-bay. Sounds weird but I contacted this person and asked a few questions about the lug nuts they were selling. Turns out that the seller was a custom wheel shop in Oklahoma that really knew their stuff when it came to lug nuts. After several e-mails, they were able to tell me exactly what I had to have to make the wheels fit properly. I think it cost me about $ 40.00 for the proper lug nuts. And, I had to add 7/16" spacers behind the wheels because the nuts are all too long. They don't make the 1/2"-20 nuts in the correct length for the '72 Chevy studs. I would reccommend that you contact them. They were VERY helpful and extremely knowledgable. I know they sure knew alot more than I did!

Massey's Accessory Shop, 1319 S. Robinson, Okla. City, OK 73109. Phone--405-239-2010

By the way, the pictures look like you do need what is called a "Duplex" style lug nut. See, I actually learned something about wheels through my experience. So, in a way, I guess it turned out to be a good thing (in the end)

Sorry so long, and good luck!
Hang in there!

TP