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Longhorn Man · 09-17-2004, 06:07 PM

Even the world class t-5 isn't all that strong. It is only rated at 305 foot pounds of torque.
If one were to want a 5 spped, and wanted to bang gears a little, but not allthe time, I would say to look at huck's set up real close...I drove it, I like it. I don't know the torque rating of it, but being that it is a truck tranny, and came bolted to 350 engines...I'm sure it is better than the T-5.

All T-5 trannys are overdrive. This came in mustangs, S-10's, camarows, trans ams/firebird, and I think maybe rangers too.

jjk3 · 09-17-2004, 07:53 PM

The Chevy T-5 trannies aren't that strong. That's just the way it is. If you baby it, then it'll last. I've been looking at doing this swap in my '68 for quite a while. I even have a WC T-5 from a Camaro that has a .63 overdrive. The only problem being the fab work for a shifter (or to swap tailshafts) and various other things. My T-5 actually has an elctronic speedo, but the speedo from my 3 speed will drop right in. They even have the same number of teeth.

Right now I'm looking for the NP A-833. It has a .73 overdrive and is a direct bolt-in for my truck. Don't tell anybody though, they might buy them all up

I've got some T-5 links I'll post, just think about what you want and what you're willing to do to get there. There are always posting on www.inliners.org and www.stovebolt.com about T-5 swaps and problems. Good luck. John

http://www.thirdgenresource.com/tran...s_information/

http://www.inliners.org/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=2;t=000453

http://www.5speeds.com/t5/index.html

Also, go to the Inliners page and click on "Tech Tips" on the left side, and go to "The T-5 Tranny Page". It has some usful information and links.

BTW: If you can find a good T-56, that's about the best way to go. As far as manual trannies with overdrive (.62 or .50 depending on years).

bgood · 09-18-2004, 11:39 PM

JJK3 wrote

BTW: If you can find a good T-56, that's about the best way to go. As far as manual trannies with overdrive (.62 or .50 depending on years).

you got me to looking at these as a possibile cure for my high revs at hwy speeds... Anyone we know put one of these bad boys in a 67-72? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the shifter would be located WAY back in the cab from the looks of where it is located on the tranny.

What say guys, think this is doable?

72C203503ONTHETREE · 09-18-2004, 11:44 PM

I think there are three positions you can use on the T56, maybe I'm thinking of the Tremec TKO, which is another excellent strong overdrive 5 speed.

*1972C10* · 09-19-2004, 05:05 AM

I installed a T-5 Out of a camaro In a 67 i had .. I had plans of building a 327 for the truck .. And my local tranmission shop was confident that if i tore it up he could install aftermarket hardned parts .. Just like you need to do with automatic transmissions that are behind severe apps. And have it hold up to whatever i could put on it.
But what does he know /

It worked out good with bucket seats but if you wanted to retain a bench No way.

I was going to build a custom MDF Console and intergrate a camaro bezel . or just put a universal shiftet boot on it.

*1972C10* · 09-19-2004, 05:08 AM

Here are the pics

jjk3 · 09-19-2004, 09:47 AM

bgood- The shifter would be farther back. I know a couple of people on the board have swapped one in. I just can't remember right now who it was. I'll see if I can't dig up more info.

1972C10- You can retain a bench seat with a Camaro T-5. You just have to swap the tailshaft housing from a S-10 T-5 on there. There's a write up on the Inliners site about it.

The consensus among most people is that the T-5 won't hold up under severe abuse, or a good amount of power. That's not to say they won't, just that most people haven't had much luck with them under those conditions.

If you get a chance, could you ask your local tranny shop what parts they would install, and where they would get them from. The only parts I've seen to beef up a WC T-5 is a counter gear stabilizer. http://www.5speeds.com/t5.htm

I don't think I've read anything on how to beef up a NWC T-5 though. If you get the info please post it up. Hopefully your tranny guy has some info that can benefit us. Thanks. John

*1972C10* · 09-19-2004, 06:33 PM

Ill call him up monday or stop by i need to arrange a day for my to bring my truck up there He wasNICE? enuff to let me use his lift and dial indicator for my upcomming posi swap.

**lock** · 09-19-2004, 09:06 PM

The World Class version of the f-body t5's is the stronger one. If your going thru the work Id highly consider a T56 instead. Very strong and the 6th gear is awesome for cruising down the interstate.

Kas68c10 · 09-20-2004, 02:37 PM

I have a t5 from a Camaro, put it in 6 years ago, used the truck as a daily driver, never had any problems,and I have a bench seat. But with the stock 250, I don't have alot of stress on it, I just know it works great for me....

Kas68c10 · 09-20-2004, 07:28 PM

what about the 200r4 ? Isn't that another option to consider, ofr maybe not tough enough for your application

gr8scott51 · 09-20-2004, 10:21 PM

These guys are talking manual trannies not autos.

Longhorn Man · 09-20-2004, 11:58 PM

Yeah, the 200 4R is an auto overdrive.
As far as stock/junk yard items, the t-5 and t-56 are the only ones that I know of...at least car-wise. The truck ones are stronger (not talkin s-truck...c or k truck), but they aren't made for banging gears, and probably don't like the abuse.

09-17-2004, 07:53 PM	#27
jjk3 It's just a check engine lamp. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 311	The Chevy T-5 trannies aren't that strong. That's just the way it is. If you baby it, then it'll last. I've been looking at doing this swap in my '68 for quite a while. I even have a WC T-5 from a Camaro that has a .63 overdrive. The only problem being the fab work for a shifter (or to swap tailshafts) and various other things. My T-5 actually has an elctronic speedo, but the speedo from my 3 speed will drop right in. They even have the same number of teeth. Right now I'm looking for the NP A-833. It has a .73 overdrive and is a direct bolt-in for my truck. Don't tell anybody though, they might buy them all up I've got some T-5 links I'll post, just think about what you want and what you're willing to do to get there. There are always posting on www.inliners.org and www.stovebolt.com about T-5 swaps and problems. Good luck. John http://www.thirdgenresource.com/tran...s_information/ http://www.inliners.org/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=2;t=000453 http://www.5speeds.com/t5/index.html Also, go to the Inliners page and click on "Tech Tips" on the left side, and go to "The T-5 Tranny Page". It has some usful information and links. BTW: If you can find a good T-56, that's about the best way to go. As far as manual trannies with overdrive (.62 or .50 depending on years). __________________ Active Inliner---bigchevy66 68 SWB Stepside 250 L6/3 on the floor/ Hedman headers, HEI, MSD 6A box, K&N filter, Offy intake and Edelbrock 600cfm 4 barrel Soon to have: WC T-5 five speed 66 SWB Stepside-undergoing restoration

09-18-2004, 11:39 PM	#28
bgood Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 80	JJK3 now you done went and got me curious... JJK3 wrote BTW: If you can find a good T-56, that's about the best way to go. As far as manual trannies with overdrive (.62 or .50 depending on years). you got me to looking at these as a possibile cure for my high revs at hwy speeds... Anyone we know put one of these bad boys in a 67-72? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the shifter would be located WAY back in the cab from the looks of where it is located on the tranny. What say guys, think this is doable? __________________ 1967 C10 Short,Step 283\1460 Holley HEI Ign. Borg Warner T56 6 Speed! A-1 Electric life pwr windows PS,PB,Tilt 275\60R'S on Alum Mags all around Vintage Air A\C Grey cloth Buckets

09-18-2004, 11:44 PM	#29
72C203503ONTHETREE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grant, Alabama Posts: 504	I think there are three positions you can use on the T56, maybe I'm thinking of the Tremec TKO, which is another excellent strong overdrive 5 speed. __________________ 72 Chevy C20, SOLD (Dang it.) 09 Challanger RT six speed in all black. 74 Datsun 710 wagon, all 1.8 liters of screaming Datsun power. 73 C10 long bed, 350/350 combo, nice shape.

09-19-2004, 05:08 AM	#31
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	Here are the pics Last edited by 1972C10; 07-02-2007 at 01:17 AM.

09-19-2004, 09:47 AM	#32
jjk3 It's just a check engine lamp. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 311	bgood- The shifter would be farther back. I know a couple of people on the board have swapped one in. I just can't remember right now who it was. I'll see if I can't dig up more info. 1972C10- You can retain a bench seat with a Camaro T-5. You just have to swap the tailshaft housing from a S-10 T-5 on there. There's a write up on the Inliners site about it. The consensus among most people is that the T-5 won't hold up under severe abuse, or a good amount of power. That's not to say they won't, just that most people haven't had much luck with them under those conditions. If you get a chance, could you ask your local tranny shop what parts they would install, and where they would get them from. The only parts I've seen to beef up a WC T-5 is a counter gear stabilizer. http://www.5speeds.com/t5.htm I don't think I've read anything on how to beef up a NWC T-5 though. If you get the info please post it up. Hopefully your tranny guy has some info that can benefit us. Thanks. John __________________ Active Inliner---bigchevy66 68 SWB Stepside 250 L6/3 on the floor/ Hedman headers, HEI, MSD 6A box, K&N filter, Offy intake and Edelbrock 600cfm 4 barrel Soon to have: WC T-5 five speed 66 SWB Stepside-undergoing restoration

09-17-2004, 06:07 PM	#26
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Even the world class t-5 isn't all that strong. It is only rated at 305 foot pounds of torque. If one were to want a 5 spped, and wanted to bang gears a little, but not allthe time, I would say to look at huck's set up real close...I drove it, I like it. I don't know the torque rating of it, but being that it is a truck tranny, and came bolted to 350 engines...I'm sure it is better than the T-5. All T-5 trannys are overdrive. This came in mustangs, S-10's, camarows, trans ams/firebird, and I think maybe rangers too.

09-19-2004, 05:05 AM	#30
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	I installed a T-5 Out of a camaro In a 67 i had .. I had plans of building a 327 for the truck .. And my local tranmission shop was confident that if i tore it up he could install aftermarket hardned parts .. Just like you need to do with automatic transmissions that are behind severe apps. And have it hold up to whatever i could put on it. But what does he know / It worked out good with bucket seats but if you wanted to retain a bench No way. I was going to build a custom MDF Console and intergrate a camaro bezel . or just put a universal shiftet boot on it.

09-19-2004, 06:33 PM	#33
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	Ill call him up monday or stop by i need to arrange a day for my to bring my truck up there He wasNICE? enuff to let me use his lift and dial indicator for my upcomming posi swap. Last edited by 1972C10; 09-21-2004 at 12:12 AM.

09-19-2004, 09:06 PM	#34
lock Insert funny comment. Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Concord NC Posts: 621	The World Class version of the f-body t5's is the stronger one. If your going thru the work Id highly consider a T56 instead. Very strong and the 6th gear is awesome for cruising down the interstate. __________________ ------------ - Mark -My Build Thread... -68 C10, LT1 - Undergoing Frame off resto -86 IROC-Z T72 turbo 355, M6 -70 Camaro http://www.iroc-ss.com

09-20-2004, 02:37 PM	#35
Kas68c10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Freeland,Michigan,USA Posts: 312	I have a t5 from a Camaro, put it in 6 years ago, used the truck as a daily driver, never had any problems,and I have a bench seat. But with the stock 250, I don't have alot of stress on it, I just know it works great for me.... __________________ 1968 SWB Stepside, 250,pwr disc brake and tilt pwr steering, 5 spd tranny, HEI,Accel coil,K&N filter,Seat from a later truck with built in seatbelts, front and rear sway bars, moved gas tank to under the bed, headman hedders, new chrome bumpers,one wire alternator,Weber k550cub carburator...WORK IN PROGRESS, Freeland MI , Just bought a 72 Jimmy!!!!!!!!!!!

09-20-2004, 07:28 PM	#36
Kas68c10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Freeland,Michigan,USA Posts: 312	what about the 200r4 ? Isn't that another option to consider, ofr maybe not tough enough for your application __________________ 1968 SWB Stepside, 250,pwr disc brake and tilt pwr steering, 5 spd tranny, HEI,Accel coil,K&N filter,Seat from a later truck with built in seatbelts, front and rear sway bars, moved gas tank to under the bed, headman hedders, new chrome bumpers,one wire alternator,Weber k550cub carburator...WORK IN PROGRESS, Freeland MI , Just bought a 72 Jimmy!!!!!!!!!!!

09-20-2004, 10:21 PM	#37
gr8scott51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 1,839	These guys are talking manual trannies not autos. __________________ Silence is golden, duct tape is silver. - Scott

09-20-2004, 11:58 PM	#38
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Yeah, the 200 4R is an auto overdrive. As far as stock/junk yard items, the t-5 and t-56 are the only ones that I know of...at least car-wise. The truck ones are stronger (not talkin s-truck...c or k truck), but they aren't made for banging gears, and probably don't like the abuse.



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