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*Shane* · 10-28-2004, 11:02 PM

GM better get their asses in gear ...

Sierra · 10-28-2004, 11:26 PM

I'm no F**d fan, but it's good to see a Mustang once again look like a Mustang. The nostalgia craze over muscle car designs seems to be picking up steam, and I think it's great that we can once again identify with the classic 60's and 70's designs. I hope other manufacturers (i.e., GM, Chrysler) pick up on this and keep pace with the new 'stang. I agree that the new GTO is a disappointment, so why don't we see new muscle cars that reflect what we really want? ... jmho.

useRc10 · 10-28-2004, 11:36 PM

chevy needs to hire this guy and get the fifth gen camaro going
http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0309phr_5camaro/

68w/sbc406 · 10-28-2004, 11:54 PM

thats bad a$$

sub4rvr · 10-29-2004, 12:20 AM

I like the new Mustang. Can't wait to see the convertible.

Budweis · 10-29-2004, 12:26 AM

they look ok, at least they got that old styling but prob is there are going to be millions of them on the street and im sure ill soon tire of looking at them. whats the performance like on em?

Porkchop · 10-29-2004, 12:30 AM

It's actually retroed after the 67 fastback not any the machs.

*dtlilly* · 10-29-2004, 12:56 AM

As Chuck and Brad have said, they are of 67 design orgin. They look nice... especially that white SCCA equiped car.

Gary · 10-29-2004, 12:59 AM

I like 'em too but that nose looks too short seems like it oughta be just a couple inches longer to really get the look going.

That said I want one to but no way am I buying a new one, Mustangs depreciate too fast, I'll buy one in 2 years

sub4rvr · 10-29-2004, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budweis

whats the performance like on em?

300-horsepower, 4.6-liter SOHC 3-valve V-8 engine.
From fordmuscle.com ------->

Preliminary dyno and track testing for media sources are indicating the 5 speed automatic GT as putting down 267 rear wheel horsepower and 280 ft-lbs of torque. The same media test vehicle ran 13.6@100mph on factory radials and the stock 3.33:1 differential ratio. The 5-speed should near the 280 horsepower mark at the wheels and with sticky tires and gears high 12 second ET's would be easily attained.

Engine Details
GT
281 cu in / 4,606 cc
9.8:1 compression
SOHC, 3 valves per cylinder
Variable camshaft timing
HP: 300@5,750 rpm
TQ: 320 lb-ft@4,500 rpm

68LSS1 · 10-29-2004, 03:57 AM

They look nice but performance still sucks. (Keep in mind my daily driver is a Roush GT). 267rwhp is pathetic these days, especially for a performance car. The stupid looking GTO is at 350 with the 6 speed. The LS1's been pushing 300 at the wheels since '98. And now with the 6.0 aluminum blocks in the new 'Vette by the time the next Camaro comes out will be pushing over 400rwhp. The 4.6 sucks and needs to go. Modern technology is great but with a engine that has only 281 ci and not designed to rev quickly (which is what they should of done with their new modular engine overhead cam tecnology) you sort of loose before you start. You have to have a power adder to be competitive and then your MAYBE equal with a good head/cammed LS1.

smokekiki · 10-29-2004, 08:10 AM

The mustang has a little more room in the front compared to last years car.My Wife works for a ford dealer.The first new stang came in 2 weeks ago.My cousin and I went in to drive it.It needs wider tires and lowered 2"to make it look better.The window sticker was 27,700.They had 10 '03s.the price on the '03 is down to 20,500.

The pontiac dealer next door has a bunch of GTO's still setting around.Not selling to well.

GMC AMI · 10-29-2004, 08:44 AM

Nice car except the new Vette will blow its doors off!

smokekiki · 10-29-2004, 09:18 AM

The biggest problem I have with the vette,other than the 50k+ price,[The local GM dealer is selling them 5k over window!!!]is the new viper looking front.Put another 25k into the Mustang and see what You get.Of course than you still have a ford!

spencra · 10-29-2004, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the pics Randy. The more that I look at them the more I want one. Must get through to the wife somehow.

As far as it being modeled after the 67, it may be, but when you look at the front end it just screams Mach I. Don't you think?

spencra · 10-29-2004, 11:56 AM

I really love that retro camaro. Is that just a concept car or is it in the works for a later release.
Vette's are definately a fast car but it just looks like a bubble on wheels. I'm not too fond of all those curves. My step father has a 78 vette pace car. No that is a car and it hauls some serious ass.

spencra · 10-29-2004, 12:02 PM

Wow, this thread isn't getting the old To-The-Top. Did I do something wrong here? Is talking about a Ford product not allowed? I usually don't unless I have something bad to say about Ford but I had to point out haw sweet the new stangs are. Sorry if I did something wrong here but it is completely innocent.

spencra · 10-29-2004, 12:06 PM

Oh, I see, the thread was moved. Now all I have to do is figure out where. No biggy.

Ahhh, General Discussion. That makes sense. Sorry Josh.

Budweis · 10-29-2004, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Files

Nice car except the new Vette will blow its doors off!

exactly, the vette looks the way it does cus its alot more aerodynamic. to me looks are secondary anyway and performance is whats more important.

spencra · 10-29-2004, 01:03 PM

Yeah but looks aren't illegal, speeding is. It still baffles me why they build cars to break the speed of sound when you just aren't supposed to do it. don't get me wrong I love performance but I have to go with looks first and the Mustang has the vette beat hands down in my opinion.

useRc10 · 10-29-2004, 01:14 PM

i think that is a concept done by a teenager but i didnt read the article in detail...i have heard rumors (from no reputable sources) that chevy is planning on bringing the camaro but not the firebird back soon.

PHOENIX · 10-29-2004, 02:33 PM

I like the front of this new mustang, but I hate the back.
I saw a picture of the new (2005?) Dodge Dakota with 5.7L Hemi. Not sure exactly what they are calling it, but it is similar looking to the Chevy SSR.
Anyone have a picture of this new Dodge?

I love the new vette. The exterior and interior changed are a major improvement. I didnt even think it needed a change, but I am happy with what they came up with.

That camaro concept pic looks sweet, I wish they would build it.

useRc10 · 10-29-2004, 02:53 PM

i dont see anything on dodge's website about a dakota but i think this thing looks pretty cool

useRc10 · 10-29-2004, 02:54 PM

crap, what happened to the pic

*Randy70C-10* · 10-29-2004, 03:37 PM

10-28-2004, 11:36 PM	#28
useRc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mechanicsville, VA, 23111 Posts: 1,138	chevy needs to hire this guy and get the fifth gen camaro going http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0309phr_5camaro/ __________________ -'02 Chevy Avalanche, 5.3L, 4x4... needing a small lift and bigger tires -'72 Chevy C-10(350, bored 60 over)dual flowmasters, 3 on the tree -'85 K5 Blazer,305 NO MORE...350 is in,2" lift,33" Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radials -dads '70 burb (red, 5-7 drop, 350...) www.geocities.com/userc10/truckhome.html AIM: Auntjoedadda

10-28-2004, 11:54 PM	#29
68w/sbc406 Got Light Emitting Diode? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 2,485	thats bad a$$ Attached Images __________________ 1968 1/2 ton 2wd lwb 6 lug disc and bags up front. Next c notch and rear bags '02 Chevy Silverado LT ext cab short bed 2WD 5/7 drop on 22's(the family car) 1993 Cherokee work ride/weekend wheeler

10-29-2004, 12:20 AM	#30
sub4rvr Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Palm Springs, Ca. Posts: 574	I like the new Mustang. Can't wait to see the convertible. Attached Images __________________ 72 C10 Suburban 90 S10 57 F100 (2) 67 Mustang (2) 69 Torino GT 00 Mustang GT Conv.

10-29-2004, 12:26 AM	#31
Budweis Geared for Collision Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 683	they look ok, at least they got that old styling but prob is there are going to be millions of them on the street and im sure ill soon tire of looking at them. whats the performance like on em? __________________ MEMBER OF THE 4 WHEEL DISK BRAKE CLUB 1970 C/K20 3/4 Ton 1996 Collectors Edition Corvette 1977 Corvette Coupe

10-29-2004, 12:59 AM	#34
Gary Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Harvest, AL Posts: 545	I like 'em too but that nose looks too short seems like it oughta be just a couple inches longer to really get the look going. That said I want one to but no way am I buying a new one, Mustangs depreciate too fast, I'll buy one in 2 years __________________ Gary Harris 85 Silverado - 87 Grand National 2007 Ardmore Car Show

10-28-2004, 11:02 PM	#26
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	GM better get their asses in gear ...

10-28-2004, 11:26 PM	#27
Sierra Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 71	I'm no F**d fan, but it's good to see a Mustang once again look like a Mustang. The nostalgia craze over muscle car designs seems to be picking up steam, and I think it's great that we can once again identify with the classic 60's and 70's designs. I hope other manufacturers (i.e., GM, Chrysler) pick up on this and keep pace with the new 'stang. I agree that the new GTO is a disappointment, so why don't we see new muscle cars that reflect what we really want? ... jmho.

10-29-2004, 12:30 AM	#32
Porkchop Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dowagiac, MI US Posts: 579	It's actually retroed after the 67 fastback not any the machs.

10-29-2004, 12:56 AM	#33
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	As Chuck and Brad have said, they are of 67 design orgin. They look nice... especially that white SCCA equiped car.

10-29-2004, 03:57 AM	#36
68LSS1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,191	They look nice but performance still sucks. (Keep in mind my daily driver is a Roush GT). 267rwhp is pathetic these days, especially for a performance car. The stupid looking GTO is at 350 with the 6 speed. The LS1's been pushing 300 at the wheels since '98. And now with the 6.0 aluminum blocks in the new 'Vette by the time the next Camaro comes out will be pushing over 400rwhp. The 4.6 sucks and needs to go. Modern technology is great but with a engine that has only 281 ci and not designed to rev quickly (which is what they should of done with their new modular engine overhead cam tecnology) you sort of loose before you start. You have to have a power adder to be competitive and then your MAYBE equal with a good head/cammed LS1. __________________ '68 Short Step LS1/T56, Hydratech, Fatman Fabrications Stage III, Baer, Hot Rods to Hell, US Body, S&W, etc

10-29-2004, 08:10 AM	#37
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	The mustang has a little more room in the front compared to last years car.My Wife works for a ford dealer.The first new stang came in 2 weeks ago.My cousin and I went in to drive it.It needs wider tires and lowered 2"to make it look better.The window sticker was 27,700.They had 10 '03s.the price on the '03 is down to 20,500. The pontiac dealer next door has a bunch of GTO's still setting around.Not selling to well. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

10-29-2004, 08:44 AM	#38
GMC AMI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Other Maine! Posts: 2,236	New vette is faster! Nice car except the new Vette will blow its doors off! Attached Images __________________ 1968 Chevy 4x4 307 4 speed

10-29-2004, 09:18 AM	#39
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	The biggest problem I have with the vette,other than the 50k+ price,[The local GM dealer is selling them 5k over window!!!]is the new viper looking front.Put another 25k into the Mustang and see what You get.Of course than you still have a ford! __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

10-29-2004, 10:50 AM	#40
spencra This, is my BOOMSTICK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berlin, CT Posts: 1,310	Thanks for the pics Randy. The more that I look at them the more I want one. Must get through to the wife somehow. As far as it being modeled after the 67, it may be, but when you look at the front end it just screams Mach I. Don't you think? __________________ Larry Got rid of my projects for now. 1980 Jeep CJ7 1998 Nissan Sentra (my car) 2001 Toyota Sienna (wife's, of course) Last edited by spencra; 10-29-2004 at 10:56 AM.

10-29-2004, 11:56 AM	#41
spencra This, is my BOOMSTICK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berlin, CT Posts: 1,310	I really love that retro camaro. Is that just a concept car or is it in the works for a later release. Vette's are definately a fast car but it just looks like a bubble on wheels. I'm not too fond of all those curves. My step father has a 78 vette pace car. No that is a car and it hauls some serious ass. __________________ Larry Got rid of my projects for now. 1980 Jeep CJ7 1998 Nissan Sentra (my car) 2001 Toyota Sienna (wife's, of course)



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10-29-2004, 12:02 PM	#42
spencra This, is my BOOMSTICK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berlin, CT Posts: 1,310	Wow, this thread isn't getting the old To-The-Top. Did I do something wrong here? Is talking about a Ford product not allowed? I usually don't unless I have something bad to say about Ford but I had to point out haw sweet the new stangs are. Sorry if I did something wrong here but it is completely innocent. __________________ Larry Got rid of my projects for now. 1980 Jeep CJ7 1998 Nissan Sentra (my car) 2001 Toyota Sienna (wife's, of course)

10-29-2004, 12:06 PM	#43
spencra This, is my BOOMSTICK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berlin, CT Posts: 1,310	Oh, I see, the thread was moved. Now all I have to do is figure out where. No biggy. Ahhh, General Discussion. That makes sense. Sorry Josh. __________________ Larry Got rid of my projects for now. 1980 Jeep CJ7 1998 Nissan Sentra (my car) 2001 Toyota Sienna (wife's, of course) Last edited by spencra; 10-29-2004 at 12:10 PM.

10-29-2004, 01:03 PM	#45
spencra This, is my BOOMSTICK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berlin, CT Posts: 1,310	Yeah but looks aren't illegal, speeding is. It still baffles me why they build cars to break the speed of sound when you just aren't supposed to do it. don't get me wrong I love performance but I have to go with looks first and the Mustang has the vette beat hands down in my opinion. __________________ Larry Got rid of my projects for now. 1980 Jeep CJ7 1998 Nissan Sentra (my car) 2001 Toyota Sienna (wife's, of course)

10-29-2004, 01:14 PM	#46
useRc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mechanicsville, VA, 23111 Posts: 1,138	i think that is a concept done by a teenager but i didnt read the article in detail...i have heard rumors (from no reputable sources) that chevy is planning on bringing the camaro but not the firebird back soon. __________________ -'02 Chevy Avalanche, 5.3L, 4x4... needing a small lift and bigger tires -'72 Chevy C-10(350, bored 60 over)dual flowmasters, 3 on the tree -'85 K5 Blazer,305 NO MORE...350 is in,2" lift,33" Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radials -dads '70 burb (red, 5-7 drop, 350...) www.geocities.com/userc10/truckhome.html AIM: Auntjoedadda

10-29-2004, 02:33 PM	#47
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	I like the front of this new mustang, but I hate the back. I saw a picture of the new (2005?) Dodge Dakota with 5.7L Hemi. Not sure exactly what they are calling it, but it is similar looking to the Chevy SSR. Anyone have a picture of this new Dodge? I love the new vette. The exterior and interior changed are a major improvement. I didnt even think it needed a change, but I am happy with what they came up with. That camaro concept pic looks sweet, I wish they would build it. __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION * Last edited by PHOENIX; 10-29-2004 at 02:42 PM.

10-29-2004, 02:53 PM	#48
useRc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mechanicsville, VA, 23111 Posts: 1,138	i dont see anything on dodge's website about a dakota but i think this thing looks pretty cool __________________ -'02 Chevy Avalanche, 5.3L, 4x4... needing a small lift and bigger tires -'72 Chevy C-10(350, bored 60 over)dual flowmasters, 3 on the tree -'85 K5 Blazer,305 NO MORE...350 is in,2" lift,33" Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radials -dads '70 burb (red, 5-7 drop, 350...) www.geocities.com/userc10/truckhome.html AIM: Auntjoedadda

10-29-2004, 02:54 PM	#49
useRc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mechanicsville, VA, 23111 Posts: 1,138	crap, what happened to the pic Attached Images __________________ -'02 Chevy Avalanche, 5.3L, 4x4... needing a small lift and bigger tires -'72 Chevy C-10(350, bored 60 over)dual flowmasters, 3 on the tree -'85 K5 Blazer,305 NO MORE...350 is in,2" lift,33" Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radials -dads '70 burb (red, 5-7 drop, 350...) www.geocities.com/userc10/truckhome.html AIM: Auntjoedadda

10-29-2004, 03:37 PM	#50
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