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cysko9 · 11-07-2004, 05:21 PM

So suicide doors is the best place then to get comparable parts for less $$$?????

That seems to be the general concensus........

Anyone have a parts list for the exact things i would need from Suicide?

ChevyCruizer · 11-10-2004, 01:04 AM

here is a picture of the arms from the ART SEMA booth. They look great. i am getting a set.

XXL · 11-10-2004, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChevyCruizer

here is a picture of the arms from the ART SEMA booth. They look great. i am getting a set.

Mine came black, only the upper had a sticker on it (the "high dollar" sticker

), and no upper ball joint. I'm not sure if they were SUPPOSED to have an upper or not.

sittinon21s · 11-10-2004, 01:28 PM

So where do I buy a set? I checked the ART site and it says there not available, is there some where I can get them? I need them now.

Shev · 11-10-2004, 03:07 PM

Okay...got some awesome news...Jason at Suicidedoors is a buddy of mine and AirRide is only like a half hour from him. I just got off the phone with him (drum roll please)

$675 for upper and lower arms!!!!!!!

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is there are different ball joint options for the different years...cool thing is you can order them with '73-'87 ball joints and swap in '73-'87 dropped spindles at the same time...

Give him a call (812) 782-3581 and tell'em Shev sent ya...

Keep your eyes open for more deals deals to come...

cysko9 · 11-10-2004, 04:16 PM

shev.... sent you a PM

from the picture above, im not quite sure how the springs/ bags would mount on the bottom arm.....

anyone want to enlighten me?

Shev · 11-10-2004, 05:17 PM

If you look in the pic in the post above the arm on the left has an AirRide Tech sticker on a plate...that's where the bag mounts...

In this pic you can see the plate on the arm on the left...

cysko9 · 11-10-2004, 05:37 PM

so this deal from suicide is just the top and bottom arms....
Im looking through the ART catalogue and i keep seeing complete
coolride systems... both arms and the bag for like 1200....
If i go with the suicide stuff what else am i going to need to get
to complete a coolride setup...

Shev · 11-10-2004, 06:13 PM

Yes the $675 is just for upper and lower arms...I called Jason again and got a price for the complete Coolride Kit (arms, bags, upper plates & shocks)

$875 for complete Coolride Kit!!!!!!!

Give him a call (812) 782-3581 and tell'em Shev sent ya...

Keep your eyes open for more deals deals to come...

Not sure if you guys have seen this here is the post on the AirRide Forum from Darren:

"The complete front kit with the bags and shocks is $999.
If you just want the 4 arms it will be $749.

Here are a couple added benefits to using these arms compared to the factory arms:
-First we corrected the ball joint angles on the upper and lower arms for a lowered vehicle.
-Then we added a couple degrees of Caster into the lower arm. This will improve road feel and aid steering wheel returnability. From the factory these trucks did not have much caster since some of them did not have power steering. In doing so the airspring is moved slightly forward, so you will either have to slot the mounting and air fitting holes on the upper plate or buy the revised one. They are $25 each.
- The strength and look of the arms is greatly improved as well."

And another post:
"When ordering keep in mind what year spindle you will be using. The ball joints will be different from 63-70, 71 & 72, and 73-87. I believe that most disc brake conversion kits use the 73-87 spindle. "

cysko9 · 12-04-2004, 03:42 PM

thanks shev... just recieved my order from Suicide..
cudos to the guys there, they are pretty good to work with....
(when you can get through to them) i think they need a
secretarty..... sorry, office assistant to answer calls for them

**N2TRUX** · 12-05-2004, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cysko9

.... they are pretty good to work with....
(when you can get through to them) i think they need a
secretarty..... sorry, office assistant to answer calls for them

Would that be a lack of customer service?

cysko9 · 12-05-2004, 12:26 AM

i guess you could say that...
once you do get through though they seem to be pretty good about helping you with whatever you need... maybe they are just understaffed

rolnlow · 12-13-2004, 09:25 AM

I know this is a bad word but has anyone tried the arms from chassis tech for 569.00 upper and lower?

XXL · 12-13-2004, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolnlow

I know this is a bad word but has anyone tried the arms from chassis tech for 569.00 upper and lower?

They are incompatible with bags so I didn't investigate further.

rolnlow · 12-13-2004, 12:43 PM

yea they are. look
http://www.truckn-store.com/product....t.asp&ID=72985

bagged72blaz · 12-13-2004, 03:52 PM

I have SoLow lower a-arms and AirLift GenII Extreme bags up front. No brackets, I tack welded the supplied air bag plates to the lower arm, and upper crossmember. Aired out my front middle crossmember sits about 1 1/2" off the ground, with 255/55/17s on front. It handles very well.

My question is will I feel a noticable impovement in ride and handling with these ART arms? And how low will they go? Anyone have any pics of these installed? Do they provide more ground clearance under the arm, aired out? My lower arms hit the ground if I dump all the air, from full ride height, while moving.

Also SCOTI made a good point.

"The problem (for me) w/these arms is they actually correct alignment issues by making the upper arms longer, thus not requiring 'excessive' shims. That does me absolutely zilch good because w/longer arms my wheels/tires will be rubbing the outer edges of the fender-lip & wheel-well."

As I plan on going with 20X9 all the way around. And clearance will be a problem. Although I'm going to have to remove my iner fenders when I step up to 20s. What are all your thoughts on this?

XXL · 01-01-2005, 07:36 PM

Here are a few pics of my Capt Kaos xmember with ART control arms installed.

Shane... note the special upside down ART sticker on one of the arms. That's the high-dollar ART sticker they forgot to put on correctly

XXL · 01-01-2005, 07:38 PM

pics...

MylilBowTie · 01-04-2005, 12:24 AM

What about the shock mounting tabs? Or are they not used with bags?

smokekiki · 01-04-2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagged72blaz

Also SCOTI made a good point.

"The problem (for me) w/these arms is they actually correct alignment issues by making the upper arms longer, thus not requiring 'excessive' shims. That does me absolutely zilch good because w/longer arms my wheels/tires will be rubbing the outer edges of the fender-lip & wheel-well."

As I plan on going with 20X9 all the way around. And clearance will be a problem. Although I'm going to have to remove my iner fenders when I step up to 20s. What are all your thoughts on this?

You need to find out how much longer the upper arms are.If they are just long enough to get rid otf the shims,they should work.I have a 3/4" of shims.

XXL · 01-04-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MylilBowTie

What about the shock mounting tabs? Or are they not used with bags?

You will most definitely need shocks. The "spring rate" of the air bags is (depending on air pressure) generally much less than that of a coil spring. The shocks attach to the stock upper mount on the frame rail and to the mount on the rear of the lower control arm... which is part of the ART arm.

XXL · 01-04-2005, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokekiki

You need to find out how much longer the upper arms are.If they are just long enough to get rid otf the shims,they should work.I have a 3/4" of shims.

A quick stab of the tape measure shows both stock and ART uppers to be 9" long from ball joint centerline to outer edge of the cross shaft. The difference in "length" appears to be in one of the spars, which has the effect of pushing the balljoint forward (thus reducing the KPI by a couple of degrees). So, with regard to wheel width/offset, I don't see any problems caused by the ART arms over the stockers.

smokekiki · 01-04-2005, 10:14 AM

Thanks XXL,I didn't think they were increasing the track width.

SCOTI · 01-04-2005, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokekiki

Thanks XXL,I didn't think they were increasing the track width.

The ART's were supposed to retain factory width. It was the 'other' brand of arms that advertised the feature of "built in alignment correction w/o excess shims" which is a fancy way of saying they made the uppers longer.

For my application, I want everything tucked in as much as possible but not to the extreme of the MII width & certainly don't want it wider than stock. It would seem a good idea for the other brand to offer the lowers in a shortened version.

Quote:

MylilBowTie What about the shock mounting tabs? Or are they not used with bags?

They are located in the same position as factory arms. You don't see it in XXL's pics, but they are there.

MylilBowTie · 01-04-2005, 07:01 PM

Thanks for the replys

11-07-2004, 05:21 PM	#26
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	So suicide doors is the best place then to get comparable parts for less $$$????? That seems to be the general concensus........ Anyone have a parts list for the exact things i would need from Suicide? __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

11-10-2004, 01:04 AM	#27
ChevyCruizer 17's too small Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 335	here is a picture of the arms from the ART SEMA booth. They look great. i am getting a set. Attached Images __________________ 68 C10 SWB SS 5 lug power disc brake conversion 2.5 inch drop spindles van tilt column Air Ride Technologies Cool Ride air bag kits Performance Online tubular upper control arms and shock relocator kits ECE super track panhard bar 1 piece side windows

11-10-2004, 03:07 PM	#30
Shev Head Peon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Imlay City MI Posts: 295	Okay...got some awesome news...Jason at Suicidedoors is a buddy of mine and AirRide is only like a half hour from him. I just got off the phone with him (drum roll please) $675 for upper and lower arms!!!!!!! One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is there are different ball joint options for the different years...cool thing is you can order them with '73-'87 ball joints and swap in '73-'87 dropped spindles at the same time... Give him a call (812) 782-3581 and tell'em Shev sent ya... Keep your eyes open for more deals deals to come... __________________ '72 Suburban, factory tilt, tach, front & rear AC, front & rear disc brakes, 383/700-R4 Last edited by Shev; 11-10-2004 at 04:19 PM.

11-10-2004, 04:16 PM	#31
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	shev.... sent you a PM from the picture above, im not quite sure how the springs/ bags would mount on the bottom arm..... anyone want to enlighten me? __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

11-10-2004, 05:17 PM	#32
Shev Head Peon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Imlay City MI Posts: 295	If you look in the pic in the post above the arm on the left has an AirRide Tech sticker on a plate...that's where the bag mounts... In this pic you can see the plate on the arm on the left... __________________ '72 Suburban, factory tilt, tach, front & rear AC, front & rear disc brakes, 383/700-R4

11-10-2004, 01:28 PM	#29
sittinon21s Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NorCal/K.C. Posts: 7	So where do I buy a set? I checked the ART site and it says there not available, is there some where I can get them? I need them now.

11-10-2004, 05:37 PM	#33
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	so this deal from suicide is just the top and bottom arms.... Im looking through the ART catalogue and i keep seeing complete coolride systems... both arms and the bag for like 1200.... If i go with the suicide stuff what else am i going to need to get to complete a coolride setup... __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

11-10-2004, 06:13 PM	#34
Shev Head Peon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Imlay City MI Posts: 295	Yes the $675 is just for upper and lower arms...I called Jason again and got a price for the complete Coolride Kit (arms, bags, upper plates & shocks) $875 for complete Coolride Kit!!!!!!! Give him a call (812) 782-3581 and tell'em Shev sent ya... Keep your eyes open for more deals deals to come... Not sure if you guys have seen this here is the post on the AirRide Forum from Darren: "The complete front kit with the bags and shocks is $999. If you just want the 4 arms it will be $749. Here are a couple added benefits to using these arms compared to the factory arms: -First we corrected the ball joint angles on the upper and lower arms for a lowered vehicle. -Then we added a couple degrees of Caster into the lower arm. This will improve road feel and aid steering wheel returnability. From the factory these trucks did not have much caster since some of them did not have power steering. In doing so the airspring is moved slightly forward, so you will either have to slot the mounting and air fitting holes on the upper plate or buy the revised one. They are $25 each. - The strength and look of the arms is greatly improved as well." And another post: "When ordering keep in mind what year spindle you will be using. The ball joints will be different from 63-70, 71 & 72, and 73-87. I believe that most disc brake conversion kits use the 73-87 spindle. " __________________ '72 Suburban, factory tilt, tach, front & rear AC, front & rear disc brakes, 383/700-R4 Last edited by Shev; 11-10-2004 at 06:25 PM.

12-04-2004, 03:42 PM	#35
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	thanks shev... just recieved my order from Suicide.. cudos to the guys there, they are pretty good to work with.... (when you can get through to them) i think they need a secretarty..... sorry, office assistant to answer calls for them __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

12-05-2004, 12:26 AM	#37
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	i guess you could say that... once you do get through though they seem to be pretty good about helping you with whatever you need... maybe they are just understaffed __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

12-13-2004, 09:25 AM	#38
rolnlow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: independence mo usa Posts: 333	I know this is a bad word but has anyone tried the arms from chassis tech for 569.00 upper and lower?

12-13-2004, 12:43 PM	#40
rolnlow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: independence mo usa Posts: 333	yea they are. look http://www.truckn-store.com/product....t.asp&ID=72985

12-13-2004, 03:52 PM	#41
bagged72blaz Got L.E.D.s Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Craig Co. Posts: 195	I have SoLow lower a-arms and AirLift GenII Extreme bags up front. No brackets, I tack welded the supplied air bag plates to the lower arm, and upper crossmember. Aired out my front middle crossmember sits about 1 1/2" off the ground, with 255/55/17s on front. It handles very well. My question is will I feel a noticable impovement in ride and handling with these ART arms? And how low will they go? Anyone have any pics of these installed? Do they provide more ground clearance under the arm, aired out? My lower arms hit the ground if I dump all the air, from full ride height, while moving. Also SCOTI made a good point. "The problem (for me) w/these arms is they actually correct alignment issues by making the upper arms longer, thus not requiring 'excessive' shims. That does me absolutely zilch good because w/longer arms my wheels/tires will be rubbing the outer edges of the fender-lip & wheel-well." As I plan on going with 20X9 all the way around. And clearance will be a problem. Although I'm going to have to remove my iner fenders when I step up to 20s. What are all your thoughts on this?

01-01-2005, 07:36 PM	#42
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