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Brainchild · 02-26-2005, 09:50 PM

I have seen this happen twice last week.RR Wheel on the black 1/2 ton,and LR dual on the 1 ton.I wasn't driving either time,but I did get to repair the damage.I would be at the Midas building as soon as they open.

**Boog** · 02-26-2005, 09:58 PM

Good thing your Burb isn't lowered any more that it is or that gas tank may have been a gonner. And your truck.

4x4Poet · 02-27-2005, 05:21 AM

I can't believe all that brake dust and grime built up since a brake "job" only a few weeks earlier. I think you need to definately have your lawyer examine the Midas workorder/receipt that documents the work "done." Your lawyer should have a professional mechanic compare what the workorder says was "done" with what actually was done, if anything. If you have them on both negligence (overtight lug nuts) and fraud, you shall reap enough money in penalty judgement/settlement to have ECE build you the burb of your dreams. Of course, this info should not be taken as legal advice blah blah blah....

curbyk · 02-27-2005, 08:17 AM

If they over tightened them on that side...what about the others? I'm sure they used the same tools.

nitor · 02-27-2005, 09:06 AM

I hope you get some satisfaction out of this. Were they suppose to put on new brakes, or just check what may be wrong with what you have? When the lugs sheared off, would the drum turn? In any case, they should be the ones that pay to have it repaired.

cojnit · 02-27-2005, 12:54 PM

thanks for the thoughts. The drum was on the ground a few feet from the truck, but I noticed that there are to rivot grooves in the drum. hhmmm anyway I am waiting to her from the insurance adjuster. As usual no one calls when they say they are going to, or show up when they say they are. What is wrong with "professionals" today. No one is held accontable for doing what they say they are going to do.

Anyway I am still in shock. I am getting more confused as each day goes by. I am tempted to go to an attorney outside of the insurance agency (mercury) but dont want to mess up the process.

My biggest problem is it seems that they did not give me a copy of the original receipt back when I got it back the second time. I didnt notice when they handed me the midas envelope. crap.

4x4Poet · 02-28-2005, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cojnit

...I am tempted to go to an attorney outside of the insurance agency (mercury) but dont want to mess up the process.

My biggest problem is it seems that they did not give me a copy of the original receipt back when I got it back the second time. I didnt notice when they handed me the midas envelope. crap.

If you haven't informed Midas about the incident, go back with a straight face and tell them you didn't get a receipt for the last job. If they ask why you need it, say you need it to keep track of work done on the truck for resale purposes. Perfectly true and legal.

And no one "in the process" need know you have sought legal counsel. Keep mum with the other parties. Let your personal lawyer advise you on what you should say to whom and when he should publicly enter the fray, so to speak. You need advice on what you are entitled to and how to handle to situation to your legal advantage, with fairness in mind. IOW, CPNE was right.

cojnit · 03-03-2005, 08:13 PM

UPDATE:

Called midas and they faxed me a copy of the reciept. cool. I paid for NEW everything!

Midas so far has said that they are going to belly up and take care of it. I will be on their ass to see just how on top if it they are. Supposedly they have a relationship with a body shop near-by. I looked into this shop and they sound reputable. They are sending over a flatbed tomorrow, lets see what happens.

silvertonguedevil · 03-03-2005, 08:29 PM

Good luck!

**jamie72** · 03-03-2005, 08:42 PM

i wish you luck, it really suck we build, take care of, love these trucks, and someone screws up our ride...

Brainchild · 03-03-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 4x4Poet

I can't believe all that brake dust and grime built up since a brake "job" only a few weeks earlier.

I agree with that,and would use that as an argument.I would think it would be a lot cleaner,of course depending on how many miles you put on in a week.

Good luck.

hotrodtroy · 03-04-2005, 11:36 AM

Great news. Hold their @55es to the fire.

GreyHoundSteve · 03-04-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VetteVet

My guess is that your insurance will have to pay for repairs and you might be able to get Midas to pay for your deductable. Did you call the police or have any witnesses?
If you take the repair bill to Midas and can show them that they worked on your truck on that side then they might just pay off. They have insurance to cover things like that. My bet is they are going to say that they didn't have anything to do with it and your're on your own. I hope not but that seems to be the way business is done. You should contact your insurance and you can get a free consultation from an attorney sometimes. Good Luck

VetteVet

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He's right about this. I took my acura to a place a few years ago and had my brakes done and when i picked it up the first time i noticed an awful streaching sound and so i turned right back around and dropped it back off to be fixed right. The next day i get a call saying its done again and i pick it up and dont get half a mile down the road before i have one of the front brake pads come right off the caliper. I had it towed back to the shop i had the brakes done at and told the manager what had happened and can you guess his response? "what do you want me to do about it?" I told him that i wanted him to pay the tow truck driver and fix it right and replace any components that were damaged as a result of their poor work. He said he wasnt going to pay for anything and that it was my problem. The sad thing is that i had a similar experience with my wifes Volvo as well. You just cant get good work done anymore and NO ONE will take responsability for anything they do. Its a sad state of affairs we live in these days and chances are your on your own here.

70 shorty · 03-04-2005, 01:32 PM

Yep, time for Midas to bend over.

72 Cheyenne K20 · 03-04-2005, 02:38 PM

Ouch man. Screw Midas. They need to take responsibility for the work they do. They love to hang their little awards saying their #1 in the world at everything, so when their not, make em pay. New brakes my bass. One thing I learned in the Marine Corps. HIT HARD, HIT FAST, HIT OFTEN. Keep on them till they brake, I couldn't resist. Good luck with your burb.

Scott

cojnit · 03-09-2005, 06:02 PM

well update:

Midas says that it was not their fault. they are blaming old lugs and my rims for the lugs snapping. Although they have admitted to the brakes not being up to snuff, they say that the lug situation is a coincidence. They have replaced the brakes, but are not willing to cover the body work as a result of the wheel displacement.

I am struggling with what kind of attorney to hire, or if it even worh it. should I just threaten a lawyer and see what happens? wont the lawer cost me more in the end?

I am going insane with this whole thing. I tried to be honest with them and tell them exactly what happend. I am not trying to get them for injury or scamming them in any way, I just want my car fixed loike it was before this happened.

rgray71 · 03-09-2005, 06:13 PM

They are a multi-million dollar company. Get a lawyer and make them fix it. It wasn't your fault that their mechanic over tightened those lugs.

*screamin_c102* · 03-09-2005, 06:15 PM

Better business bureau, the newspaper, and the local news. They already shafted you on your brakes and I am sure they don't want that getting around, now do they? This is a 'burban, therefore a family vehicle. I am sure the local news station "peoples advocat" or whatever would be interested in how a "heartless corporation purposely and with malice placed you and your family in harms way, by not only @#$%^ your brake job, but leaving your vehicle unsafe to drive" I would contact anybody and everybody until they do the right thing.

CHEVY & GMC FOREVER · 03-09-2005, 06:17 PM

Well I would threaten them with a lawyer just to get a rise out of them and see what happens and if they chose to continue on there path of stuborness then just get a lawyer to take care of everthing and get your insurence company involved maybe they can make some headway with them to..... best of luck with your burb

shifty · 03-09-2005, 06:24 PM

Talk to an automobile accident and injury attorney. There should be dozens in the phone book.

Almost every lawyer in the book will offer you at least a half hour of free consultation. Most will refer you to someone else if they aren't the right lawyer for the job - laywers are like hyenas, they flock in packs.

Also, most of them will not expect any form of payment unless you make a settlement. Chances are you can probably find a way to make Midas pay for your lawyers fees if a settlement is reached, so you should be able to come out without paying anything if the lawyer is successful.

You're in the right on this one. Fight them tooth and nail. They're trying to intimidate you - when they see you've got a lawyer and that you're serious, hopefully they'll cave in and do the body work.

Meanwhile - settle for a shop that YOU like. If they're going to be assholes here and say they aren't responsible, don't let them have a choice on how your 'burb is repaired in any way, shape or form - you pick the shop, you pick the work.

If they are found responsible for the damage, they are required by law to restore the vehicle to the previously appraised value and/or condition

shifty · 03-09-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEVY & GMC FOREVER

Well I would threaten them with a lawyer just to get a rise out of them and see what happens

4x4Poet is correct - This is usually a bad idea. Companies eat people who do these things for breakfast. The absolute best action you can take is to shut up, don't talk to Midas or the insurance company, call a lawyer who can help and let the lawyer do the talking - again, most of them don't charge unless a settlement is reached.

screamin_c10 has a great idea with contacting the newspaper and local fraud division at the television station - BUT do not threaten Midas with the fact you might do this.

*screamin_c102* · 03-09-2005, 06:42 PM

Sorry I forgot to mention the not threatening them part

They are trying to blame the age of your truck, yet they were aware of the trucks age when they took your money and promised you a brake job right?

This is exactly why I do all my own work, I'm the only one I trust.

cojnit · 03-09-2005, 06:49 PM

well normally I would have done my own brakes, but work has been very good this year and you cant turn it away. Feast or famine you know. Thought I would take it to a shop and have them done, and voila! Here I am . In retrospect the time is is taking me now to figure it all out is may more than it would have been to just do it myself.

shifty · 03-09-2005, 06:51 PM

Just promise not to give up. Even if it takes a few weeks longer.

I'm pretty sure that Midas will back down when your lawyer contacts them. But, after seeing their current reaction (only wanting to cover the least amount possible), I would expect them to call "their shop" and thell the shop to do a quick, sloppy job and that's not good.

Stick to your guns. Call around for a couple of lawyers. It will take some time, but ... dude, it's your truck! It's beautiful, it's a classic and they f***ed it up!

cojnit · 03-09-2005, 07:17 PM

how difficult do you guys think this body work is going to be? any ideas on what someone might quote? I want to get as much information as I can without notifying Midas, and they have the truck right now.

Maybe this will give me the push needed to chop it a couple inches.

except for the fact that I have never done any body work in my life! hell for as much as I think this will cost maybe buy a nice welder and some tools and start learning!

I checked into small claims here in CA but they lmiit you to $5,000. anyone think this would cost more than that to fix? Also anyone have any good body shop recomendations in Los Angeles?

02-26-2005, 09:50 PM	#26
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	I have seen this happen twice last week.RR Wheel on the black 1/2 ton,and LR dual on the 1 ton.I wasn't driving either time,but I did get to repair the damage.I would be at the Midas building as soon as they open. __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website

02-26-2005, 09:58 PM	#27
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,535	Good thing your Burb isn't lowered any more that it is or that gas tank may have been a gonner. And your truck. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

02-27-2005, 05:21 AM	#28
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	I can't believe all that brake dust and grime built up since a brake "job" only a few weeks earlier. I think you need to definately have your lawyer examine the Midas workorder/receipt that documents the work "done." Your lawyer should have a professional mechanic compare what the workorder says was "done" with what actually was done, if anything. If you have them on both negligence (overtight lug nuts) and fraud, you shall reap enough money in penalty judgement/settlement to have ECE build you the burb of your dreams. Of course, this info should not be taken as legal advice blah blah blah.... __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

02-27-2005, 08:17 AM	#29
curbyk 69 C-10 project Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Eastern, NC Posts: 184	If they over tightened them on that side...what about the others? I'm sure they used the same tools. __________________ 69 C-10 Work is complete

02-27-2005, 09:06 AM	#30
nitor Too many projects Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Morrow, OH Posts: 344	I hope you get some satisfaction out of this. Were they suppose to put on new brakes, or just check what may be wrong with what you have? When the lugs sheared off, would the drum turn? In any case, they should be the ones that pay to have it repaired. __________________ Jim '55 Chevrolet Pickup '56 Chevrolet Belair '04 Chevrolet Astro '95 Chevrolet Blazer

02-27-2005, 12:54 PM	#31
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	thanks for the thoughts. The drum was on the ground a few feet from the truck, but I noticed that there are to rivot grooves in the drum. hhmmm anyway I am waiting to her from the insurance adjuster. As usual no one calls when they say they are going to, or show up when they say they are. What is wrong with "professionals" today. No one is held accontable for doing what they say they are going to do. Anyway I am still in shock. I am getting more confused as each day goes by. I am tempted to go to an attorney outside of the insurance agency (mercury) but dont want to mess up the process. My biggest problem is it seems that they did not give me a copy of the original receipt back when I got it back the second time. I didnt notice when they handed me the midas envelope. crap. __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!"

03-03-2005, 08:13 PM	#33
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	UPDATE: Called midas and they faxed me a copy of the reciept. cool. I paid for NEW everything! Midas so far has said that they are going to belly up and take care of it. I will be on their ass to see just how on top if it they are. Supposedly they have a relationship with a body shop near-by. I looked into this shop and they sound reputable. They are sending over a flatbed tomorrow, lets see what happens. __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!"

03-03-2005, 08:29 PM	#34
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Good luck! __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

03-03-2005, 08:42 PM	#35
jamie72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: madison indiana Posts: 3,836	i wish you luck, it really suck we build, take care of, love these trucks, and someone screws up our ride... __________________ jamie72 72 BB cheyenne -- Restoration getting started.. member #807 http://www.myspace.com/whitetailobsession www.antlertalk.com

03-04-2005, 11:36 AM	#37
hotrodtroy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 138	Great news. Hold their @55es to the fire. __________________ '72 C-10 w/ '68 Large Journal 327cu.in. "It's o.k. to dream about what you want to do, until you start doing what you are meant to do." Line from "The Rookie"

03-04-2005, 01:32 PM	#39
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,772	Yep, time for Midas to bend over. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

03-04-2005, 02:38 PM	#40
72 Cheyenne K20 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Staunton, Virginia Posts: 554	Ouch man. Screw Midas. They need to take responsibility for the work they do. They love to hang their little awards saying their #1 in the world at everything, so when their not, make em pay. New brakes my bass. One thing I learned in the Marine Corps. HIT HARD, HIT FAST, HIT OFTEN. Keep on them till they brake, I couldn't resist. Good luck with your burb. Scott

03-09-2005, 06:02 PM	#41
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	well update: Midas says that it was not their fault. they are blaming old lugs and my rims for the lugs snapping. Although they have admitted to the brakes not being up to snuff, they say that the lug situation is a coincidence. They have replaced the brakes, but are not willing to cover the body work as a result of the wheel displacement. I am struggling with what kind of attorney to hire, or if it even worh it. should I just threaten a lawyer and see what happens? wont the lawer cost me more in the end? I am going insane with this whole thing. I tried to be honest with them and tell them exactly what happend. I am not trying to get them for injury or scamming them in any way, I just want my car fixed loike it was before this happened. __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!"

03-09-2005, 06:13 PM	#42
rgray71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tonganoxie, Ks Posts: 180	They are a multi-million dollar company. Get a lawyer and make them fix it. It wasn't your fault that their mechanic over tightened those lugs.

03-09-2005, 06:15 PM	#43
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Better business bureau, the newspaper, and the local news. They already shafted you on your brakes and I am sure they don't want that getting around, now do they? This is a 'burban, therefore a family vehicle. I am sure the local news station "peoples advocat" or whatever would be interested in how a "heartless corporation purposely and with malice placed you and your family in harms way, by not only @#$%^ your brake job, but leaving your vehicle unsafe to drive" I would contact anybody and everybody until they do the right thing.



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03-09-2005, 06:17 PM	#44
CHEVY & GMC FOREVER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Lenox,IL Posts: 306	Well I would threaten them with a lawyer just to get a rise out of them and see what happens and if they chose to continue on there path of stuborness then just get a lawyer to take care of everthing and get your insurence company involved maybe they can make some headway with them to..... best of luck with your burb __________________ 1985 Chevrolet C-30 454 1-TON Dooley 1969 CHEVROLET CST-10 PICK-UP Good memories 1999 Chevrolet Z71 Ext. cab 5.7L Good Memories With a quart of oil, and a gallon of gas, she won't let no other car pass!!!. & FOREVER

03-09-2005, 06:24 PM	#45
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Talk to an automobile accident and injury attorney. There should be dozens in the phone book. Almost every lawyer in the book will offer you at least a half hour of free consultation. Most will refer you to someone else if they aren't the right lawyer for the job - laywers are like hyenas, they flock in packs. Also, most of them will not expect any form of payment unless you make a settlement. Chances are you can probably find a way to make Midas pay for your lawyers fees if a settlement is reached, so you should be able to come out without paying anything if the lawyer is successful. You're in the right on this one. Fight them tooth and nail. They're trying to intimidate you - when they see you've got a lawyer and that you're serious, hopefully they'll cave in and do the body work. Meanwhile - settle for a shop that YOU like. If they're going to be assholes here and say they aren't responsible, don't let them have a choice on how your 'burb is repaired in any way, shape or form - you pick the shop, you pick the work. If they are found responsible for the damage, they are required by law to restore the vehicle to the previously appraised value and/or condition __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-09-2005, 06:42 PM	#47
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Sorry I forgot to mention the not threatening them part They are trying to blame the age of your truck, yet they were aware of the trucks age when they took your money and promised you a brake job right? This is exactly why I do all my own work, I'm the only one I trust.

03-09-2005, 06:49 PM	#48
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	well normally I would have done my own brakes, but work has been very good this year and you cant turn it away. Feast or famine you know. Thought I would take it to a shop and have them done, and voila! Here I am . In retrospect the time is is taking me now to figure it all out is may more than it would have been to just do it myself. __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!"

03-09-2005, 06:51 PM	#49
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Just promise not to give up. Even if it takes a few weeks longer. I'm pretty sure that Midas will back down when your lawyer contacts them. But, after seeing their current reaction (only wanting to cover the least amount possible), I would expect them to call "their shop" and thell the shop to do a quick, sloppy job and that's not good. Stick to your guns. Call around for a couple of lawyers. It will take some time, but ... dude, it's your truck! It's beautiful, it's a classic and they f*ed it up! __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM**! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-09-2005, 07:17 PM	#50
cojnit Nothing clever Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kailua HI Posts: 828	how difficult do you guys think this body work is going to be? any ideas on what someone might quote? I want to get as much information as I can without notifying Midas, and they have the truck right now. Maybe this will give me the push needed to chop it a couple inches. except for the fact that I have never done any body work in my life! hell for as much as I think this will cost maybe buy a nice welder and some tools and start learning! I checked into small claims here in CA but they lmiit you to $5,000. anyone think this would cost more than that to fix? Also anyone have any good body shop recomendations in Los Angeles? __________________ Got "the Midas Touch!"

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