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Richard8971 · 10-10-2008, 08:38 PM

I knew my truck was going to be driven alot so I hot power washed and degreased the frame and then sanded. I sprayed black epoxy followed by flat urethane single stage paint. Looks good and should hold up perfect.

D

Billhilly · 10-11-2008, 02:02 AM

I have just today finished painting mine. The chassis had been undersealed so I used a variety of discs and then a needle scaler to clean it back. I then gave it a quick blast over with a $15 sand blaster to remove most of what was left. Then one coat of a two pack rust encapsulator. Then one coat of a two pack epoxy prime, then two coats of a vinyl acyrlic on top. Was meant be be more cost effective than POR15 etc. Pics here- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...57#post2924457

old Chevy guy · 10-11-2008, 11:04 AM

I have had exellent results with plain old rustoleum rusty metal primer and paint. I wire wheeled a frame for my 61 Apache in 1984 and primed and painted it with a brush,since then I but the body on a 4x4 chassis and the old frame has been sitting on the ground in the woods for about 15 years and yup it still has that black rustoleum paint on it not rusted.Also did a frame off restoration on my 69 Camaro in about 1986 ,sand blasted rusty metal primed and painted with a spray gun and still hanging on there to this day 22 years and over 100,000 miles latter. Oh and the best part ,it's cheap to buy!

**ChiefRocka** · 10-11-2008, 11:27 AM

Powder coating on my frames:
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"Z069" Vette chassis:
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Rich's "Project Father/Son '67 C-20"
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Sinister · 10-11-2008, 11:27 AM

I spray bombed my frame.

It's a daily driver so no frame off here, but it definitely looks better now. Drives me nuts when a truck looks good topside but the frame and rear end are all rusty. Rattle canning it is the least you can do.

**ChiefRocka** · 10-11-2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinister

I spray bombed my frame.

It's a daily driver so no frame off here, but it definitely looks better now. Drives me nuts when a truck looks good topside but the frame and rear end are all rusty. Rattle canning it is the least you can do.

I agree. On my ghetto truck, that's what I did to the body, but still have to do the rusty undercarriage.

**steelhorse** · 10-11-2008, 11:38 AM

Hey!Hart rod do you have a build thread on that thing?

72BlckButy · 10-13-2008, 11:55 AM

Wow... there's a lot of great looking projects out there. Great work guys!

Keep the experiences, pics, pros, cons coming....

kyull67 · 10-13-2008, 12:02 PM

I just painted mine black because I like to drive it through thunderstorms and mud puddles, maybe do a little off roading at national truck shows.

**Hart_Rod** · 10-13-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by steelhorse

Hey!Hart rod do you have a build thread on that thing?

Here you go:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387

Orange · 10-13-2008, 01:14 PM

Mine is rubberized undercoating. Isn't smooth or shiny - but it's protected good.

If I had it to do over - I would galvanize it, then powdercoat/paint it. That way I'd have 360° protection.

DLB

C10-Driver · 10-13-2008, 03:10 PM

I powdercoated mine... Mostly because I have a "friend" that owns a powdercoating shop. I had the frame, and a whole bunch of other parts done for $500 bucks so the frame, by itself, would probably have been $300. As long as the parts are prepped properly, most finishes should last a "lifetime". The powder on my frame was laid on thick and, there were times during assembly that I had to "beat" on it with a hammer and the finish stood up during this abuse.

72BlckButy · 10-13-2008, 04:27 PM

C10-Driver that is a great looking frame!

724x4a/cchevy · 10-13-2008, 04:37 PM

I've kinda lost some faith in por-15. I painted my Model A frame with the flat black. The finish looked terrible. It's supposedly "rust proof" and all that. The top rails started rusting and the finish didn't look good at all. I came back and shot it with semi-gloss rustoleum and it looks sooo much better. I don't think I'll be spending money on POR again.
Justin

heavy71chevy · 10-13-2008, 05:02 PM

Where can you buy the rustuleum yall are using? Is it just the spraybomb cans or a brush on?

C10-Driver · 10-13-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

C10-Driver that is a great looking frame!

Thanks Nate. I am really happy with the satin powdercoat I had applied. I have had the truck on the road for over a year now and the finish still looks brand new. A little soap and water and it shines as good as it did the day I took those pictures.

**special-K** · 10-13-2008, 06:56 PM

You can get Rustoleum either in spray can or qts & gals...Valspar(TSC),Derusto,etc.

Does that por-15 have to go on bare metal using their rust encapulator and all?Or,can it go on over other paint?

**Hart_Rod** · 10-13-2008, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

You can get Rustoleum either in spray can or qts & gals...Valspar(TSC),Derusto,etc.

Does that por-15 have to go on bare metal using their rust encapulator and all?Or,can it go on over other paint?

I don't think you can put it over other paint. I usually just sandblast the part to bare metal and then shoot it with the POR15. I've had zero problems doing it like that (so far any way,

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**leddzepp** · 10-13-2008, 09:39 PM

POR 15 is made for bare metal. If you follow the instructions (which are easy) you will not have a problem with it. A 7 dollar small can is MORE than enough to coat an ENTIRE chassis if you thin it 20% and spray it on. With crummy Krylon costing about the same, this is a no-brainer.

72BlckButy · 10-15-2008, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C10-Driver

Thanks Nate. I am really happy with the satin powdercoat I had applied. I have had the truck on the road for over a year now and the finish still looks brand new. A little soap and water and it shines as good as it did the day I took those pictures.

Do you have any close up shots of your frame with the satin powder coat? I just went through your build thread and man your truck is nice. You did a great job on the build up!

umwtnt · 10-15-2008, 10:37 AM

I wire wheel, grinding pads and wire-brushed my frame. Afterwards Eastwoods ceramic chassis primer and paint. Very happy with the results. I have chip it once and a little bit of sanding and respray with spray can and it looked as good as new. I did use HVLP gun for the initial priming and painting.

kizer · 10-15-2008, 02:37 PM

Went with POR15 myself. So far I only have two coats on the back half of my 65 frame, control arms and axle, but I plan on laying down 2 more coats of Chasis black on top for the UV protection plus I hope it dulls down the shinny look of the base coat.

I took the very paint brush when it was dry and smacked it against a 2x4 piece of pine and it made some HUGE dents in the paint and didn't even bend the brush. I then tried to bend the brush and snapped the handle. I don't know whats in the can, but man its rock hard and I hope it does what its supposed to do.

Feel free to browse my build thread in my signature if you want to see photos. Just remember the overall finish of the frame is only as good as your prep work. I ground down to bear metal in most spots and others I put less effort into it because well I did. The entire frame did receive some wire wheel action, degreased using POR15 Marine cleaner, rinsed and wiped down with white rag, sprayed with etching and then rinsed again with clean water and a white rag. Each time I rinsed with the white rag I made sure it was clean as I possibly could because I wanted the surface as clean as possible for the paint to stick to.

So in the future "if" my POR15 fails I know its not because of my efforts its because of the product. However if it doesn't fail I'll take all the credit for the work I put into it.

C10-Driver · 10-15-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Do you have any close up shots of your frame with the satin powder coat? I just went through your build thread and man your truck is nice. You did a great job on the build up!

Here are some "close-ups" of the front suspension. I powdercoated basically everything that was black including the core support, inner fenders, brackets, cross members, front suspension, spindles, rotors, rear end, drums... you get the idea.

Let me know if these work for you.

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72BlckButy · 10-15-2008, 03:14 PM

Posted by flamingbig10 on in another part of the board

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Originally Posted by flamingbig10

for my truck I didn't have any rust problems because the entire under side of the truck coverd in oil and grease, to clean the frame I used simple green degreaser, comet, wire brush, and red and green scotch brite pads, and for paint I used http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/bps_imp.jsp

72BlckButy · 10-15-2008, 03:16 PM

Wow... that looks sweet! I never knew that powder would look that good. I only wish you were closer so I could get a better look at your truck.

View Poll Results: How are you finishing your frame?
Powdercoat	31	18.24%
Paint	48	28.24%
POR-15	45	26.47%
Rattle Can	20	11.76%
Frame..... what frame? (I just drive it)	14	8.24%
Other	12	7.06%
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10-10-2008, 08:38 PM	#26
Richard8971 Still livin the "dream" in '54 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,656	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I knew my truck was going to be driven alot so I hot power washed and degreased the frame and then sanded. I sprayed black epoxy followed by flat urethane single stage paint. Looks good and should hold up perfect. D Attached Images __________________ Current build. 1954 Chevrolet 3800 "Ella" SOLD! My '67 stepper "Tangerine Dream" "Anything worth doing is worth doing right" James Dean “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” Sherlock Holmes "There is no spoon." Neo Last edited by Richard8971; 10-10-2008 at 08:41 PM.

10-11-2008, 02:02 AM	#27
Billhilly Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand. Posts: 782	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I have just today finished painting mine. The chassis had been undersealed so I used a variety of discs and then a needle scaler to clean it back. I then gave it a quick blast over with a $15 sand blaster to remove most of what was left. Then one coat of a two pack rust encapsulator. Then one coat of a two pack epoxy prime, then two coats of a vinyl acyrlic on top. Was meant be be more cost effective than POR15 etc. Pics here- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...57#post2924457 __________________ 1972 K2500 Long Box 400/350

10-11-2008, 11:04 AM	#28
old Chevy guy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Foster Rhode Island Posts: 1,176	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I have had exellent results with plain old rustoleum rusty metal primer and paint. I wire wheeled a frame for my 61 Apache in 1984 and primed and painted it with a brush,since then I but the body on a 4x4 chassis and the old frame has been sitting on the ground in the woods for about 15 years and yup it still has that black rustoleum paint on it not rusted.Also did a frame off restoration on my 69 Camaro in about 1986 ,sand blasted rusty metal primed and painted with a spray gun and still hanging on there to this day 22 years and over 100,000 miles latter. Oh and the best part ,it's cheap to buy!

10-11-2008, 11:27 AM	#29
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Powder coating on my frames: - - "Z069" Vette chassis: - - - - - Rich's "Project Father/Son '67 C-20" - - - - __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

10-11-2008, 11:27 AM	#30
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I spray bombed my frame. It's a daily driver so no frame off here, but it definitely looks better now. Drives me nuts when a truck looks good topside but the frame and rear end are all rusty. Rattle canning it is the least you can do. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

10-11-2008, 11:38 AM	#32
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Franklinton NC Posts: 1,309	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Hey!Hart rod do you have a build thread on that thing?

10-13-2008, 11:55 AM	#33
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Wow... there's a lot of great looking projects out there. Great work guys! Keep the experiences, pics, pros, cons coming.... __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

10-13-2008, 12:02 PM	#34
kyull67 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Springfield/Kansas City Posts: 1,842	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I just painted mine black because I like to drive it through thunderstorms and mud puddles, maybe do a little off roading at national truck shows. __________________ The first '67 The current '67 '63 Biscayne

10-13-2008, 01:14 PM	#36
Orange Licensed to Thrill! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest, GA Posts: 1,673	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Mine is rubberized undercoating. Isn't smooth or shiny - but it's protected good. If I had it to do over - I would galvanize it, then powdercoat/paint it. That way I'd have 360° protection. DLB __________________ 1971 GMC.Lowered. Overdrive. Orange. Krue's excellent FAQ Index.

10-13-2008, 03:10 PM	#37
C10-Driver Chevy Truck Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 1,176	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I powdercoated mine... Mostly because I have a "friend" that owns a powdercoating shop. I had the frame, and a whole bunch of other parts done for $500 bucks so the frame, by itself, would probably have been $300. As long as the parts are prepped properly, most finishes should last a "lifetime". The powder on my frame was laid on thick and, there were times during assembly that I had to "beat" on it with a hammer and the finish stood up during this abuse. Attached Images __________________ . 1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD) 1978 Chevy C/10 SWB 1970 Pontiac Lemans .

10-13-2008, 04:27 PM	#38
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? C10-Driver that is a great looking frame! __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

10-13-2008, 04:37 PM	#39
724x4a/cchevy Self-proclaimed LED man Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Harrisburg, Missouri Posts: 1,021	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I've kinda lost some faith in por-15. I painted my Model A frame with the flat black. The finish looked terrible. It's supposedly "rust proof" and all that. The top rails started rusting and the finish didn't look good at all. I came back and shot it with semi-gloss rustoleum and it looks sooo much better. I don't think I'll be spending money on POR again. Justin __________________ My LED Website My Photobucket Album of LED's Ask me about hand-made custom L.E.D brake and reverse lights. <- LINK I also do LED: -Third Brake/Cargo -Brake (truck and burb) -Reverse (truck and burb) -67-68 Front Turn Signals -69-70 Front Turn Signals -71-72 Front Turn Signals -GMC Front Turn Signals I can also do custom lights for other vehicles....i did a set for a AMC Gremlin once Norwood Survivor

10-13-2008, 05:02 PM	#40
heavy71chevy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: antreville, south carolina Posts: 873	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Where can you buy the rustuleum yall are using? Is it just the spraybomb cans or a brush on? __________________ "Dixie Destroyer" 71 C10 LWB Fleet Future Blown Prostreet Monster

10-13-2008, 06:56 PM	#42
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? You can get Rustoleum either in spray can or qts & gals...Valspar(TSC),Derusto,etc. Does that por-15 have to go on bare metal using their rust encapulator and all?Or,can it go on over other paint? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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10-13-2008, 09:39 PM	#44
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,036	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? POR 15 is made for bare metal. If you follow the instructions (which are easy) you will not have a problem with it. A 7 dollar small can is MORE than enough to coat an ENTIRE chassis if you thin it 20% and spray it on. With crummy Krylon costing about the same, this is a no-brainer. Last edited by leddzepp; 10-13-2008 at 09:39 PM.

10-15-2008, 10:37 AM	#46
umwtnt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Williamsburg, Va Posts: 226	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? I wire wheel, grinding pads and wire-brushed my frame. Afterwards Eastwoods ceramic chassis primer and paint. Very happy with the results. I have chip it once and a little bit of sanding and respray with spray can and it looked as good as new. I did use HVLP gun for the initial priming and painting. __________________ The more I learn, the more I find out I don't know. 69 Chevy SWB w/67 front end 4 wheel discs 468 BB 700R4 Bagged Coming around slowly

10-15-2008, 02:37 PM	#47
kizer Its Deja Vu time again Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Marysville, North of Seattle WA Posts: 815	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Went with POR15 myself. So far I only have two coats on the back half of my 65 frame, control arms and axle, but I plan on laying down 2 more coats of Chasis black on top for the UV protection plus I hope it dulls down the shinny look of the base coat. I took the very paint brush when it was dry and smacked it against a 2x4 piece of pine and it made some HUGE dents in the paint and didn't even bend the brush. I then tried to bend the brush and snapped the handle. I don't know whats in the can, but man its rock hard and I hope it does what its supposed to do. Feel free to browse my build thread in my signature if you want to see photos. Just remember the overall finish of the frame is only as good as your prep work. I ground down to bear metal in most spots and others I put less effort into it because well I did. The entire frame did receive some wire wheel action, degreased using POR15 Marine cleaner, rinsed and wiped down with white rag, sprayed with etching and then rinsed again with clean water and a white rag. Each time I rinsed with the white rag I made sure it was clean as I possibly could because I wanted the surface as clean as possible for the paint to stick to. So in the future "if" my POR15 fails I know its not because of my efforts its because of the product. However if it doesn't fail I'll take all the credit for the work I put into it. __________________ Its not pretty but its mine to figure out. The build / The Photos / Build Diary

10-15-2008, 03:16 PM	#50
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Frame Finishes: What are you using and why? Wow... that looks sweet! I never knew that powder would look that good. I only wish you were closer so I could get a better look at your truck. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

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