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70GMCer · 01-14-2009, 09:05 AM

I too have, for the most part, always used Fram & never have had any problems.

Curious....If Fram is all that bad and getting that kind of publicity, (whether true or not), then why hasn't Fram come out & say anything about this, or correct the problems?

Also, I never heard of "WIX" filters Maybe it's not in my area.

Ole Blue 68 · 01-14-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MonteSS454

And the nut on the bottom or the K&N is a joke, it's so flimsy it'll round out real easily.

Never had a problem myself...

BluTrukker · 01-14-2009, 10:00 AM

I have always used fram and valvoline, and never had any problems. I've torn down motors that have always had purolator and mobil, and another that uses k&n and Qstate. both of those engines had a large amount of sludge in them. Whether the oil and filter did it or the drivers habits, I don't know. I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument. You can always find people on both sides of any argument. Bottom line is all oils lubricate, and all filters well...filter. Do some research and use what you feel is best, or use what your dad always used like I do. sorry so wordy, just my.02. happy hunting!

Senator350 · 01-14-2009, 10:10 AM

[QUOTE=BluTrukker;3085673] I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument.QUOTE]

Is it though? I mean, you can look and find articles written and pictures of all these filter's guts. Chevy v. Ford... consumer reports will actually tell you which models are holding up or costing more...

just like people have openned up these filters and found cheap materials and poor craftsmanship...

the information is out there.
actually... some of the information is in this thread...

69chevybmx · 01-14-2009, 11:08 AM

good info. i guess i have never really thought about it that much. i have always grabbed fram if it was available. i might be passing it up now for what i previously thought was an inferior filter.

**53burb** · 01-16-2009, 05:34 AM

I don't use FRAM anymore because of what I have read from everybody. I now use the WalMart brand, anybody know who makes those??

**leddzepp** · 01-16-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 53burb

I don't use FRAM anymore because of what I have read from everybody. I now use the WalMart brand, anybody know who makes those??

A 5 year old in southeast Asia.

jorgensensc · 01-16-2009, 12:20 PM

WIX or NAPA Gold (same thing)

Andy4639 · 01-23-2009, 08:51 AM

I just bought a Mobil 1 filter yesterday. For the first time my 71 hasn't gotten a A/C Delco on it. I have ran AC Delco's on everything I own. They are harder and harder to find around here. I alway's used the bigger PF 35 filter which now is a PF 1218 I think. It's half the size of the older 35 and I just felt for the money the bigger Mobile 1 was a better choice. I hope it was, time will tell.

scott's69 · 01-23-2009, 10:29 AM

Fram makes a filter for racing engines. Thats what several of us around here run. Also Advance Auto Parts filters are made by fram.

**1970cstblazer** · 01-23-2009, 11:51 AM

The regular consumer grade Frams are crap, bar none.

The HP series are fine, but they do not have the fine particle filtration for constant street use. They are built for high pressure/high flow.

I still recommend WIX or Baldwins.

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1968SWBBigBlock

Napa Gold
If you do a google search FRAM had a very large recall last year on their filters - not good news - Fram used to make a good product - no longer - the use cardboard when others use metal

I did a Google search and found no large recall on Fram filters.

ed2552 · 04-26-2009, 10:35 AM

I use K&N on my car, and we use Wix filters on all of our other vehicles.

tim21391 · 04-26-2009, 12:03 PM

i have fram ph5 and have no problems..

okiefab · 04-26-2009, 12:26 PM

i have a fram HP on my 350 it has the relief valve plugged, i will look into the K&N, Wix, i have a 2002 dodge w/Cummins when i went to change oil the first time i talked to Cummins they said the Mopar filter was made by Wix, they said Fram was not approved, i have used the Fleetguard from Cummins they have 3 grades of filter for the Cummins 5.9

Sport/Truck · 04-26-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SilveradoDude

I did a Google search and found no large recall on Fram filters.

http://www.fram.com/recall/index.php#Q1

Sport/Truck · 04-26-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okiefab

i have a fram HP on my 350 it has the relief valve plugged, i will look into the K&N, Wix, i have a 2002 dodge w/Cummins when i went to change oil the first time i talked to Cummins they said the Mopar filter was made by Wix, they said Fram was not approved, i have used the Fleetguard from Cummins they have 3 grades of filter for the Cummins 5.9

You might like reading this......
http://www.broadbandreports.com/foru...-FILTER-REVIEW

**passthebuck** · 04-26-2009, 01:35 PM

WIX is excellent. Read the reviews. There are other good ones out there that are good too, but I certainly wont put a fram or similar cheapie filter on anything I drive. I changed the oil on the three cars in my driveway last weekend & they all recieved a WIX. Here in Canada, it's tougher to get a quality oil filter. There's fewer independent parts places up here & you tend to end up at Canadian Tire where all you get is a house-brand Fram...

**passthebuck** · 04-26-2009, 03:29 PM

Here's the link I was looking for:

http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...ers/index.html

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport/Truck

http://www.fram.com/recall/index.php#Q1

Quote:

Q: What products are being recalled?
A: Only the FRAM Racing oil filters HP4 and HP8 that were manufactured from May 25, 2006 through September 14, 2007.

Hardly a massive recall and only racing filters.

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by passthebuck

Here's the link I was looking for:

http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...ers/index.html

Yeah I I've seen it. Some guy in his garage opening up oil filters and there is another one by some student at an engineering school. Both totally un-scientific.

And yet they seem to be good enough to protect multi-million dollar vintage Ferrari's....hmmmm, curious.

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport/Truck

You might like reading this......
http://www.broadbandreports.com/foru...-FILTER-REVIEW

Saw it already. An internet posting. I could do the same thing here only pro-Fram if I wanted. Not scientific. You guys can't tell me there isn't a single Consumer Reports article about oil filters that shows data on Fram filters?

In actuality there are very few differences in the actual designs and materials in oil filters. The most important thing is that you change your oil and filter regularly and frequently to remove contaminants from the engine. There are thousands upon thousands of Fram oil filters sold in outlets like Wal-Mart and Advanced Auto and if they were as bad as some people say;

A. I don't think these retailer would carry them and

B. There would be engine failures and lawsuits left and right but that just is not the case.

Sinister · 04-26-2009, 04:00 PM

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/fram...ram+oil+filter

maddog1331 · 04-26-2009, 07:30 PM

I have pretty much always used Frams, I've been driving for 20 years. I have never had a complaint. A few times I have had a filter that was hard to get off, but I got that on the few times I used other brands too.

These days, I use the Frams with the grip substance on them, hand tighten with one hand, then use 2 hands to tighten some more and leave it at that. I usually have no problems getting them off. I aways put some new oil on the seal before I put them on.

Anyway, no complaints with Fram from me.

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70GMCer

Curious....If Fram is all that bad and getting that kind of publicity, (whether true or not), then why hasn't Fram come out & say anything about this, or correct the problems?

Good question. That's because there are no big problems. It's just the Internet rumor-mill run amok.

01-14-2009, 09:05 AM	#26
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Oil Filter? I too have, for the most part, always used Fram & never have had any problems. Curious....If Fram is all that bad and getting that kind of publicity, (whether true or not), then why hasn't Fram come out & say anything about this, or correct the problems? Also, I never heard of "WIX" filters Maybe it's not in my area. __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

01-14-2009, 10:00 AM	#28
BluTrukker BOHICA Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stewartville, MN Posts: 440	Re: Oil Filter? I have always used fram and valvoline, and never had any problems. I've torn down motors that have always had purolator and mobil, and another that uses k&n and Qstate. both of those engines had a large amount of sludge in them. Whether the oil and filter did it or the drivers habits, I don't know. I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument. You can always find people on both sides of any argument. Bottom line is all oils lubricate, and all filters well...filter. Do some research and use what you feel is best, or use what your dad always used like I do. sorry so wordy, just my.02. happy hunting!

01-14-2009, 10:10 AM	#29
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: Oil Filter? [QUOTE=BluTrukker;3085673] I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument.QUOTE] Is it though? I mean, you can look and find articles written and pictures of all these filter's guts. Chevy v. Ford... consumer reports will actually tell you which models are holding up or costing more... just like people have openned up these filters and found cheap materials and poor craftsmanship... the information is out there. actually... some of the information is in this thread... __________________ RN U OVR

01-14-2009, 11:08 AM	#30
69chevybmx Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 83	Re: Oil Filter? good info. i guess i have never really thought about it that much. i have always grabbed fram if it was available. i might be passing it up now for what i previously thought was an inferior filter.

01-16-2009, 05:34 AM	#31
53burb Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 1,004	Re: Oil Filter? I don't use FRAM anymore because of what I have read from everybody. I now use the WalMart brand, anybody know who makes those??

01-16-2009, 12:20 PM	#33
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01-23-2009, 08:51 AM	#34
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Oil Filter? I just bought a Mobil 1 filter yesterday. For the first time my 71 hasn't gotten a A/C Delco on it. I have ran AC Delco's on everything I own. They are harder and harder to find around here. I alway's used the bigger PF 35 filter which now is a PF 1218 I think. It's half the size of the older 35 and I just felt for the money the bigger Mobile 1 was a better choice. I hope it was, time will tell. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

01-23-2009, 10:29 AM	#35
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01-23-2009, 11:51 AM	#36
1970cstblazer All stock and staying that way Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elkland, PA Posts: 1,445	Re: Oil Filter? The regular consumer grade Frams are crap, bar none. The HP series are fine, but they do not have the fine particle filtration for constant street use. They are built for high pressure/high flow. I still recommend WIX or Baldwins. __________________ 1970 K/5 Blazer CST 4WD, Bronze, 93k ACT. miles, 350, 4 speed, positraction, 16.5" x 8.25" wheel option, tilt, tach, vacuum, AM/FM, manual throttle...Dad ordered and purchased new 4/70. Currently frame off restoration in progress... 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 2WD, DK Blue/White, 90K ACT. miles, 402, TH400, 4.10 open, tilt, tach, vacuum, A/C, AM/FM, manual throttle.. A mostly original paint never rusted Texas survivor... 2017 Sierra 1500 SLT 4WD, Black, 41k miles, 5.3, 6L80E, 3.42 LS, 20" polished wheels, everything but moonroof and 6.2... 2019 Canyon SLT 4WD, White, 60k miles, 3.6, 8L45, 3.23 LS, 18" wheels

04-26-2009, 10:35 AM	#38
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04-26-2009, 12:03 PM	#39
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04-26-2009, 12:26 PM	#40
okiefab Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Covington, Oklahoma Posts: 27	Re: Oil Filter? i have a fram HP on my 350 it has the relief valve plugged, i will look into the K&N, Wix, i have a 2002 dodge w/Cummins when i went to change oil the first time i talked to Cummins they said the Mopar filter was made by Wix, they said Fram was not approved, i have used the Fleetguard from Cummins they have 3 grades of filter for the Cummins 5.9

04-26-2009, 01:35 PM	#43
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	Re: Oil Filter? WIX is excellent. Read the reviews. There are other good ones out there that are good too, but I certainly wont put a fram or similar cheapie filter on anything I drive. I changed the oil on the three cars in my driveway last weekend & they all recieved a WIX. Here in Canada, it's tougher to get a quality oil filter. There's fewer independent parts places up here & you tend to end up at Canadian Tire where all you get is a house-brand Fram... __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

04-26-2009, 03:29 PM	#44
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	Re: Oil Filter? Here's the link I was looking for: http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...ers/index.html __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

04-26-2009, 04:00 PM	#48
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04-26-2009, 07:30 PM	#49
maddog1331 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Somerset, KY Posts: 398	Re: Oil Filter? I have pretty much always used Frams, I've been driving for 20 years. I have never had a complaint. A few times I have had a filter that was hard to get off, but I got that on the few times I used other brands too. These days, I use the Frams with the grip substance on them, hand tighten with one hand, then use 2 hands to tighten some more and leave it at that. I usually have no problems getting them off. I aways put some new oil on the seal before I put them on. Anyway, no complaints with Fram from me.

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