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Old 04-16-2009, 07:01 PM   #26
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Re: who still uses a thermostat?

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.... I think the removal of the themostat goes hand in hand with the roll of toilet paper in the oil filter canister, instead of a store bought oil filter element.
Well, now, not quite that drastic. Heck, man, back in those days toilet paper was a luxury.

As old as I am, I never heard of anyone doing the toilet paper trick back in the 50's and 60's when I was into cars and trucks. Probably one of those myths that get repeated so much that people start believing it. TP would deteriorate and plug all the oil passages in short order. Sure way to ruin an engine in my books.
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:11 PM   #27
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Well, now, not quite that drastic. Heck, man, back in those days toilet paper was a luxury.

As old as I am, I never heard of anyone doing the toilet paper trick back in the 50's and 60's when I was into cars and trucks. Probably one of those myths that get repeated so much that people start believing it. TP would deteriorate and plug all the oil passages in short order. Sure way to ruin an engine in my books.
Trust me I had a co-worker that for lack of a better word, was a Jerk. That used TP in his oil canister on a '66 C-10 with a 292. He told me, that his dad recomended this to him and had told him, the TP was better than any oil filter on the market.
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:33 PM   #28
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Re: who still uses a thermostat?

A bunch here have posted to the fact that they use Thermostats. I too am a user. If I remember, what the engine wants is fairly quick warm up, and then a way to control movement of the coolant. This will also control the temp of the transmission fluid ( for those of us who don't row the boat ) which will enhance the life of that very expensive 4 speed OD trans. Tstats are a good thing
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:07 PM   #29
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metal likes to be around 195-200 thats the optimal wear and brake down point. Use it. I dont understand why so many ppl think they are smarter than those guys in white coats that do nothing but test all day.. r and d is not cheap but its done for us......
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:22 PM   #30
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Trust me I had a co-worker that for lack of a better word, was a Jerk. That used TP in his oil canister on a '66 C-10 with a 292. He told me, that his dad recomended this to him and had told him, the TP was better than any oil filter on the market.
Wow! Don't know how that TP didn't just deteriorate and blow his engine. Maybe, he used the stuff the military had in our barracks... That was some tough paper.

Re: thermostat usage... In case any of you haven't read all of the posts here... There isn't one person that advocates NOT using thermostats. We merely have said that in the olden days and on older cars, we have at some point or another not used them.
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:10 PM   #31
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Re: who still uses a thermostat?

A lot of people used to do it around here, supposedly it helped the engine run cooler, kind of an old "wives tale" I guess. I myself have run without one for a few days out of necessity on the ranch. I agree that engineers built things for a reason, (heck I have a mechanical engineering degree!) but they also build things to suit the masses across the world. In theory they COULD have designed a truck with stuff on it that wasn't needed in certain parts of the country.

But either way, I feel that an engine does need a thermostat even in South Texas in order to keep the engine at its optimal running temperature. This helps with performance and mpg in addition to just keeping things from frying.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:59 PM   #32
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Toilet Paper Filters

I used to frequent a VW aircooled newsgroup a few years ago, before life got in the way. I big discussion want on about toilet paper filters. I asked just the question, what about flow? Wouldn't the toilet paper stop the flow of oil?

The idea is that the toilet paper filter is used in a "bypass" setup. That is, a conventional filter is used as a "full flow" filter. After the oil pump, the oil is teed off. One branch goes though the "full flow" filter, and then to the rest of the engine. The second branch goes through the "bypass" filter then back into the sump.

The idea is that the toilet paper filter will filter out contaminants that the full flow filter can't. Since this oil is sent back to the sump, or "bypassed" it doesn't create a significant pressure drop.
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