Lowering springs/shocks

[72BlckButy]

No, a c-notch is not required if running a 5" or 6" rear drop. If you are going to use your truck as a truck, then it might be nice to install one, but it is not necessary.

[wwotr]

I know that theres a "Right Way" to do this.
Money is very tight (for me) right now.
I just wanted to do things the correct way.
Anotherwords intead of driving on these cut springs, I would put in a 3"/4" Lowering Springs/Shocks.
That way I can "add" to it in the future. Theres a settlment coming through that will allow me a $12K "Fund" for this truck, and thats when I'll add to these Springs/Shocks by doing the Drop Spindles and maybe even a Disc Conversiuon in the Rear.
Driving my Truck should be fun and when I combine these......
"Shade-Tree Cut Springs" and a seat that the Springs are shot, I hesitate to take it ANYWHERE!

I wanna do simple things like:
1) GO THE SPEED LIMIT!
2) STOP PULLING OVER FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE I CAN'T NEGOTIATE THE
BUMPS/RUTS ECT!

I've attached a picture of my GMC as it sits today (6/3/09).
After the Spring Install I will take ANOTHER PICTURE in the same place/Position and give you feedback on the Stance/Ride.


Roger

[72BlckButy]

Can't wait to see how this turns out with the new pieces... be sure to document the install.

[wwotr]

I know that theres a "Right Way" to do this.
Money is very tight (for me) right now.
I just wanted to do things the correct way.
Anotherwords intead of driving on these cut springs, I would put in a 3"/4" Lowering Springs/Shocks.
That way I can "add" to it in the future. Theres a settlment coming through that will allow me a $12K "Fund" for this truck, and thats when I'll add to these Springs/Shocks by doing the Drop Spindles and maybe even a Disc Conversiuon in the Rear.
Driving my Truck should be fun and when I combine these......
"Shade-Tree Cut Springs" and a seat that the Springs are shot, I hesitate to take it ANYWHERE!

I wanna do simple things like:
1) GO THE SPEED LIMIT!
2) STOP PULLING OVER FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE I CAN'T NEGOTIATE THE
BUMPS/RUTS ECT!

I've attached a picture of my GMC as it sits today (6/3/09).
After the Spring Install I will take ANOTHER PICTURE in the same place/Position and give you feedback on the Stance/Ride.


Roger

[wwotr]

If you go to the Webite (linked in my Sig), and then you'll find a button on the "Enter Page" that says something like Mods/Accessories.
Just click on that button, and it'll take you to the page were I dicument everything from Spring changes to Rear View Mirror installs.
I try to design Picture Galleries so that you can click on the Thumbnails for a Bigger/Detailed picture.

Roger

[wwotr]

Guys ....
Need your help on a related question.
I've been told that my "Bump Stops" are probably shot because the Front Springs were cut so much.
When replacing with my NEW Springs/Shocks, should I replace the Bump Stops too?
If I read correctly they come in different heights.
So with a 3"/4" Drop, what "size" should I replace them with?
I wanna get the right size on order so my Mechanic can install them while he's replacing my Springs/Shocks.

Roger

[wwotr]

As promised.......
I picked up my Truck today after having them install CPP's 3"/4" Lowering Springs/Shocks. I have attached "Before and After" pictures here in this post and you can see more comparisons on my "Mods Page" at:
http://home.pon.net/wwotr/towing.htm

First off I will testify that the Handling/Ride quality is a........
NIGHT & DAY DIFFERENCE!

I can palm the steering wheel with one hand and can do 45-50 MPH, where I couldn't go over 30 MPH before!
There was not one single Bump, Rut, Pot Hole that I had to avoid.
I deliberatly went over them to see how it handled.
It was Beautiful!
I was almost in Tears when I got home from the Drive!!!

My Mechanic told me that BOTH Rear Shocks were "Blown" and that when they cut/Torched the Front Springs, they welded back on some of the Front Spring because the took off too much!

I am happier than a Hog in ****!

Roger

[72BlckButy]

It looks like the truck came down about an 1" overall, looks nice!

[wwotr]

Looking into some Lowering Blocks for the Rear now!

;+)

Thanks for the Compliment!

Roger

[wwotr]

In fact I had mentioned "Rear drop blocks" to my Mechanic when I picked it up yesterday. I'm happy with the Front, but would like about 2" MORE in the back.
My guy (Jeff) at CPP says this is the way to go (as I don't want a C notch).
Says its a 30 Min installation and a guaranteed 2" Drop!

Anyone ever install these rear drop blocks?
Details/Opinions/Stories?

Roger

[glock35ipsc]

You can see the 1" blocks (maybe 1.5", can't remember) on my 68. I originally bought 3" springs and wanted more, so I put the blocks on it and it put it right where I liked it.

I've seen some really big blocks before (3-4"+), but wouldn't personally go that big. Going too big might put the u-bolts and/or shock mount below the bottom edge of the rim. If you have a flat or a blow-out, that could lead to some unexpected fun. But like I said, it's a personal thing.

[Mondo]

I have 3in drop springs in the front and dropped spindles. I went from 2in springs to 3 and the alignment shop said the couldn't get it back to spec. I bought some upper A Arms from Brothers (I'm sure there are others) that was made for lowered trucks... it has less camber and more castor so you can get it back into spec. Rides great.
The back is 6in springs with 1 inch blocks.

[wwotr]

Thanks Mondo.
Thats good info.
Your Truck is just about the stance I'm looking for (right now anyway), because when my Settlement comes through, I'll be switching to probaly 20's in the Rear and 18's in the Front.
I'll be buying the 2" Drop Blocks from CPP and hope it'll get me close.
Ultimatley the picture below is what I'm trying to acheive, but at this point, the "Drive" of my Truck is sSO MUCH BETTER with the Spring/Shock Combo!

Roger

[texanidiot25]

3in drop springs give you some bump steer, but all in all with a good tech it should align and drive just fine. Camber being the biggest pain.

CP 3" springs all around with Doetsch shocks. Rides GREAT for a lowered truck, and even more so for a classic truck. Bump stops may need to be trimmed up front, but in rear it's fine.

[COOTERUSN]

Recently installed a 3/4 drop kit (springs and shocks) from CPP. Did not buy rear relocators and adjustable tracking bar initially. Problem is, truck now sets 1-1/2 inches lower on the driver's side both front and rear. Put in new upper and lower ball joints at the same time. What am I doing wrong???

Also, do I have the shocks in upside down? Housing is to the top and shaft to the bottom. Read somewhere above that 3" springs can fall over in the spring pocket. Any advice or comments appreciated...

Learning as I go,

COOTERUSN

[dmack91]

Shocks should have the shaft positioned on top, with the reservoir on the bottom.

Are you sure you put the springs on right, not the rear springs on one side and the front springs on the other? This would account for the difference in ride height since your rear springs are 1" shorter than the fronts.

[COOTERUSN]

No, front springs are on the front, but apparently I do have the shocks on upside down. Truck sat level before I installed kit so this has to be pilot error. Going to re-do shocks, inspect springs, and swap front springs to see if any difference. Ordered rear shock relocators and adjustable tracking bar.

Thanks for the response.

COOTERUSN