6" Lift or 8" Lift Suspension? HELP!

[onlyifihadachevy]

What happened to crash, it looks way to tall for hauling something in the bed. And don't go to pirate4x4 with this question because they get really offensive, and why did you snap like that.Eturn said,"i would have left in stock." Not you should, but a lot of people said the same thing which I first stated, The big wheels look bad on older trucks, but stick to what you want. Polished looks better on than chrome on this style.

[4x4Poet]

Originally Posted by 74 C-30

Eturnit3 has a point, 18 inch wheels are useless for actual 'wheeling,..., but because theyre useless for actual offroading, we would call your truck a mall crawler, because theyre for looks only. 98% of offroading guys will make fun of you for having a mall crawler which was why he called you a clown...

Actually, Eturnit3 said OYMC should be "prepared to be clowned," not that OYMC is a clown. Big difference. One is simply describing what may happen and the other is a direct insult. OYMC also missed it, hence his overreaction.

Originally Posted by 74 C-30

...if you'd like better feedback on this try pirate4x4

OYMC, that 18-inch wheeled 4x4 you posted looks fantastic! Fairly useless off road, but still fantastic.

btw, could you keep the lift kit out of your font size? I'm on dial-up.

[3quartertime]

Originally Posted by 4x4Poet

btw, could you keep the lift kit out of your font size? I'm on dial-up.

Lol... I'm on high speed, but I'd prefer if you could stick to OEM too...

+1 on the truck you posted for reference! I probably wouldn't build one like that, but I really like the way it looks. I learned 20+ years ago when I was building daily rider old Harley's that the only person that HAS to like what you do is you...

[70 beast]

wow...it was starting to look like pirate there for a second.
glad it calmed down.

[OYMC]

I agree with you guy's:

I did get a little defensive, I just can't stand it when people think your "Wrong" for doing something different.

As for "Project Crash", she has not beed forgotten, just put on hold for the time being. After getting the 72' 4x4, I kind of got side tracked. But don't worry, I am also building a 1950 Chevy Sedan Delivery for a customer, at the same time. Needless to say, from the time I wake up, until the time I'm asleep, all I do is fabricate, and restore... Picking up the 50' chassis from the sand blaster today...

True 4X4's... There is a place for all 4X4's... I own two Toyota BJ40 Land Cruiser's (Factory Diesel FJ40) that I had imported from South America. One has the stock suspension with 2" lift shackles and 33" tires on 15" wheels. The other has a mild spring over axle lift, steering knuckles turned, Pinion angles set, cross over steering, and 33" Toyo's of 15" wheels... These are trucks I don't mind taking up in the hills, and getting dirty, and I would never dream of running 18" wheels.

The 72' on the other hand, is a very clean short bed, fleet side truck, and I would hate for it to get beat up for my own $h*T$ and giggles.

The Black 72' 4X4 photo I posted is running 20" wheels, which I think are way to big myself, espeacially on a 35" tire. 38" tires on 18" wheels I think would look good.

When I was 18 years old I built a 1994 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 Pickup, thinking I could have both a Pavement Princess, and a wheeler. This Truck had a "Full Throttle" 9 " suspension lift, 3" Body lift, 40" Boggers, and 15X14 weld wheels. The result turned into a truck that needed an alignment everytime I took it Wheelin' (JUNK). It was only good for driving on road, and with Bias Ply tires, it was anything but comfortable...BUT IT LOOK SWEET! I ended up buying 35" MT tires on 15X10 welds for the road...

SORRY ABOUT THE FONT ISSUE...

This picture is of my Sister and my 94' turd... I've also attached a photo of my 72', and my two "OFF ROAD" Land Cruisers. The two photos of the Green 77' land Cruiser were taken in Costa Rica.

[OYMC]

San Jose, Costa Rica... Where my wife is from...

[Yukon Jack]

I really like your Land Cruisers - very nice. As for the rims, 17" rims look fine in my opinion with 38" tires and if you like 18" rims, run them.

38" tires with 4.10 gears is going to be a bit rough. At a minimum I think you would want 4.56's.

Thanks for keeping things calmed down - that is how we like this site to operate.

[onlyifihadachevy]

well nice collection and the reason why you may have needed the alignment was because the ifs it pushs everything apart when flexing

[4x4Poet]

Originally Posted by OYMC

... I own two Toyota BJ40 Land Cruiser's (Factory Diesel FJ40) that I had imported from South America. One has the stock suspension with 2" lift shackles and 33" tires on 15" wheels. The other has a mild spring over axle lift, steering knuckles turned, Pinion angles set, cross over steering, and 33" Toyo's of 15" wheels... These are trucks I don't mind taking up in the hills, and getting dirty, and I would never dream of running 18" wheels...

Didn't see that coming!

[andrewmp6]

Lifting a truck with a independent front suspension is never a good idea that is why you have alignment problems with it.That is the only down fall of a newer truck,You have to get a 1ton to get a straight axle in the front or buy a swap kit.

[aerotruk63]

May I remind you GENTLEMEN that these old trucks came with 17.5" wheels as an option from Heaven ( Chevrolet/ GMC ). Did anyone solve the worlds problems by defining a wheel & tire combination that would stop the slaughter of mankind. Perspective here please. I run what I like on my truck because I like them. You may run whatever you wish as well. He may choose to run whatever he wants. Can you win a dessert race with mudders on, I think not but if you do, you've proven me wrong. Do Baja trucks climb over boulders and travel through Mud? Does the tractor puller do what he want's, how he wants to do it? Take the V8's out of the engine compartment Gentlemen and put a little 6 banger in there instead. We'll all get to the finish line. God bless those who have served North America to keep this country Four Wheelin, in whatever style.

[Big-Blue]

Play nice....

Ok, according to Volume 34, No. 12 of Truckin:

It is from Monterey, 6" Skyjacker lift, 35" Toyo Open Country MT's, Weld Cheyenne 20x12's and 4:10 gears.

It's a beautiful truck that will probably never see mud...but who cares! The guy who had it built did it to suit him and I am sure we would all love to have it, including rock crawlers who have six different colors of paint on their rigs and multiple dents...(there's an inherent beauty in that as well!)

[onlyifihadachevy]

well yes and no on do ppl win desert races with mudders and derest trucks do mud the king king of the hammers its for everyone. And that truck from what i have heard has over 200k in parts and labor, which i don't belive is true but could be its a great show truck chrome and stainless everywhere. And he didn't do the work himself, but thats okay as longs as the owner likes it. So glad your doing what you want and keep us updated.

[boostat4500]

To the OP. Here is my burb' with a 7" lift and both axles moved back 1" (equal clearance addition as another inch or two of lift). Tires are 38x15.50R16. I would not recommend running 38's with 4.10 gears. That's what I had originally and didn't like it, not enough RPM. I now run 5.13's and gained power and MPG. And I'm making a lot more torque than the LS1 you mentioned wanting to run.

[justcuz]

^I agree with him. You can get by with a 4" lift and 35's and 6" for 38"s. Might need a little fender trimming, but if you use zero rates to move the axles to center them you'll also gain another inch of heigth.

4.10 gears are OK with 35" tires, buty with 38's you will want at least 4.56 gears. The above Suburban with a 6 liter is running an engine that has a broader torque band than the LT1. Hence he can get away with 5.13's for a couple reasons. Weight of vehicle compared to yours, engine powerband and heavier duty running gear.

[gerfunken]

Are you guys looking at the 5.xx rear-ends running automatic tranny's or do you have manuals?

I know that it all comes down to gearing, and even though I know that I'm running 4.10's, I think I could move up to the bigger tire, thanks to my SM465 and the ungodly low granny....... granted, there's a lot to be desired in the upper ranges, but I don't think I'd need to worry about the low speed stuff.


and, that's a mighty sharp looking 'burb

[justcuz]

Both the transmissions in question are overdrive auto's

[OYMC]

A lot of great feed back... Thank you.

I am envious of the Suburban...If you ever think about selling it, let me know...

[boostat4500]

Thanks for the compliments on the burb'. Another heads up on my combo though. Due to the width of the tires, I still hit the rear of the front fender when turned all the way if I'm not careful. Something as simple as pulling into a driveway too fast at full lock, will flex enough to hit. I plan to add another inch of lift or narrow the axles to fix this. If I taco the fenders again after it's painted, I'll be inventing new words!
It'll probably be for sale next fall if your really interested.

[70 beast]

HERES MY JIMMY. ITS GOT AN ALL SPRING 6" LIFT WITH 38'S

[DuramaxC10]

great looking jimmy

[royo]

Originally Posted by OYMC

Okay...Here is my thought, and you can't tell me this truck doesn't look awesome with these wheels and tires!

Thank you for your feed back everyone...

The axles I am using are 14 SF rear axles, and a 10 bolt 8 lug front, 4:10 gears, and cross over steering...

What is your feeling of 4:10 with 38" Tires?

Sweet truck call it whatever you want. I like it the 410s will be fine. it just wont be a dragster off the line

[Rollinsqrbdy]

Originally Posted by 74 C-30

Eturnit3 has a point, 18 inch wheels are useless for actual 'wheeling, and my opinion is they look like sh!t, but because theyre useless for actual offroading, we would call your truck a mall crawler, because theyre for looks only. 98% of offroading guys will make fun of you for having a mall crawler which was why he called you a clown
if you'd like better feedback on this try pirate4x4

Whaaaaaaat? A mall crawler. hahahha. Your full of it. My truck truck has a 6" lift with 18" wheels on 35" and it see's alot of offroading. Whats wrong with tricking out ur truck a lil? Nothing bud. Now comeone not everyone has to put 15" wheels to have a 4x4. To each his own. Dont take me wrong I just think its a load of _____ when you can only be a true fourwheeler if you have 15".

[Eturnit3]

Originally Posted by Rollinsqrbdy

Whaaaaaaat? A mall crawler. hahahha. Your full of it. My truck truck has a 6" lift with 18" wheels on 35" and it see's alot of offroading. Whats wrong with tricking out ur truck a lil? Nothing bud. Now comeone not everyone has to put 15" wheels to have a 4x4. To each his own. Dont take me wrong I just think its a load of _____ when you can only be a true fourwheeler if you have 15".

We obviously have 2 different opinions of offroading.. the kind I do requires airing down.. and your 18" dont like to hold beads very well.. and i dont believe I said anything about 15s being superior, but thanks

[onlyifihadachevy]

yup airing down is the kind most people do except me i don't air down even knowing i should til beadlocks i still am wondering why i got 16.5s, i should have waited and got 16 or 17s, 17s look ugly but many people use them on 35+ even aired down, i see 18s for 38+ and 20s for 44+, people on rocks