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Scootin 81 C20 · 11-15-2009, 06:44 PM

Nice work. I wish I was lucky enough to have a 4x4.

He doesn't make us look bad, he just makes us look slower than he is. LOL.

GMC91 · 11-15-2009, 11:12 PM

LOL thanks for the comments, how many 16-17 year olds are on this site?

Scootin 81 C20 · 11-15-2009, 11:45 PM

Well, we are three. I am until next month, then I'm 18.

GMC91 · 11-16-2009, 09:53 PM

I got 2 questions here.

The first: Is this bar suppose to be bent like it is or do I need a new one?

The second:How do I get the hub or what ever its called off?

GMC91 · 11-17-2009, 08:44 PM

Ok since that didnt get any replies, what all can I take off the front axle that wont cost me hundreds of dollars to put back on. Im trying to make a sorta show truck outta this thing so I dont want any rust on it. And I know next to nothing about axles and what not. I bought me some chassis saver and what not, trying to clean this front end up for paint.

Edit:Everthing that has a rubber seal, like the tierods and what not, can I jsut buy new boots or do I have to replace that whole thing?

68Timber · 11-17-2009, 08:59 PM

I don't know much of anything about front steering gear, but that is the front tie rod and it needs to be replaced. Bent = trash pile. As far as removing it, I think the tool is called a pickle-fork, but you're really into territory where you need a very good shop manual. Not that you won't get help here, but a good shop manual is a must.

GMC91 · 11-17-2009, 09:04 PM

Where can I find one and how much will it cost?

68Timber · 11-17-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GMC91

Is this normal? I took the front axle out and on the brackets that are welded to the axle that bolt it to the leaf springs one hole is bigger than the other. Here is a pic if the bracket next to the pumpkin

Here is the other one on the drivers side

Is this normal?

I meant to reply to this earlier. It's not normal. At least not that I've ever heard of, but Chevy has done stranger things. They appear to be mismatched spring perches. Which would make me wonder why it was done, but unless you know the previous owner you'll never know the rest of the story - Paul Harvey is dead. But as long as it was done well, don't worry. Check the welds. If they look good, don't sweat it.

68Timber · 11-17-2009, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91

Where can I find one and how much will it cost?

Try the dealership first. Last time I bought one new it was under $100 for a 3/4 ton tie rod.

bitchin85 · 11-17-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GMC91

LOL thanks for the comments, how many 16-17 year olds are on this site?

im 16

64swb · 11-17-2009, 09:29 PM

that is what the spring perches are supposed to look like, the driver's side mount has a larger/slightly irregular shaped hole.

GMC91 · 11-17-2009, 09:39 PM

I looked up the diagram for the front end, the bar thats bent is just the adjustment sleeve, its under $50 outta autozone. So now Im trying to take my tie rods out of it. Wat a PITA. New tie-rods are like $20 a peice. The internet does wanders. Thanks for all the replies.

GMC91 · 11-17-2009, 10:07 PM

Everytime I look the part up and I find it, I can only find one for a 4:10 gear ratio. Is that going to matter? OR am I just screwed till I do go to a dealership?

Greenlee · 11-18-2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91

Everytime I look the part up and I find it, I can only find one for a 4:10 gear ratio. Is that going to matter? OR am I just screwed till I do go to a dealership?

Gearing doesn't have anything to do with the steering parts.

You can rent the pickle fork at Autozone for cheap.

Nice work so far on the truck!

GMC91 · 11-19-2009, 06:01 PM

Well I hope that the parts house carries the part cause I just got back from the dealership and they no longer carry it.

74 C-30 · 11-19-2009, 06:26 PM

well i turned 18 today so now you make an 18 year old look bad

as for your hub, dana 44? if so then you need to take off the locking hub (6-8 long skinny screws) then take that mess out inside (internal snap rings and a big goofy retaining nut that you can take off with a screwdriver and hammer if you dont have the special socket...ask me how i know...) then the hub should slide off. at least thats how it was on a TTB Ford dana 44
oh and all the steering parts are available at NAPA, autozone, advance, VIP, hell i bet you could get them through walmart

GMC91 · 11-19-2009, 10:10 PM

OK well I got the first snap ring off, the little one on the inside of the hub, now what else and in what order to I need to take out?

GMC91 · 11-21-2009, 06:52 PM

Well since Im at a stand still, no money to buy parts, I decided it was time for some cleaning. So I moved everything out of my side of the garage and cleaned it, presure washed the concrete, then moved stuff back in. Now I can walk with out stepping on stuff lol.

Well anywho, got bored so I took some pics with my phone. Heres the frame as she sits.

Here she is moved back in,

Here is my Daily Driver, did a complete tune up today on it.

And just for fun, my pyramid.

GMC91 · 11-22-2009, 01:56 PM

I pulled the gas tank today, one bracket was so rusted that it snapped, the other came off fine. How do I fix the broken bracket? Here are some pics.

This is the good side

This is the one that broke

Moody Blues · 11-22-2009, 02:18 PM

I have an 87 3/4 ton which at some point is going to need what you are doing. Here is some things to consider. Your rear brakes, the cost of a disc brake conversion is not that much more than rebuilding the rear brakes if you intend to get new backing plates and drums. Also you have a daily driver so I am assuming the is no real rush to get this done. While you have the body off it might be a good time to box the frame even though you want it as a "show truck" it will give you piece of mind if you ever want to go off roading. I like the pyramid of dip cans when you get older the turn into beer cans/bottles and tend to slow your project down. Good on you for taking time to clean, parts the garage, everything. I believe you said you was going to put the 305 back in. My opinion is if your putting this much work in save your pennies and find a nice, running, 350 to put in. You will thank yourself latter. Good job kid it is looking good. if you need any info,stats,specs shoot me a message.

GMC91 · 11-22-2009, 03:42 PM

Actually I looked the numbers up on the engine, it turns out to be an 86-88 350 2 or 4 bolt main. So all the motor will get is new seals and what not.Thanks for comments Moody.

Moody Blues · 11-22-2009, 04:12 PM

Good deal I have a copy of the RPO codes if you want to figure out what you got for gearing and what not I can send them to you.

GMC91 · 11-22-2009, 04:20 PM

First you would have to explain what a RPO code is and where do I find it, but sure Id be greatful to know what gears I have.

Moody Blues · 11-22-2009, 05:56 PM

inside the glove box there should be a bunch of codes there different options. i would cut and paste them on here but there is 104 pages. write down all your codes and send them to me at harborfire_17@yahoo.com and I will send you a list of your options and any info I get off them.

GmtGmt · 11-22-2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moody Blues

inside the glove box there should be a bunch of codes there different options. i would cut and paste them on here but there is 104 pages. write down all your codes and send them to me at harborfire_17@yahoo.com and I will send you a list of your options and any info I get off them.

would they also work for crew cab

11-15-2009, 06:44 PM	#26
Scootin 81 C20 3/4 Ton Rodder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manlius, IL Posts: 1,146	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Nice work. I wish I was lucky enough to have a 4x4. He doesn't make us look bad, he just makes us look slower than he is. LOL. __________________ 1981 Chevy Scottsdale C20 "Orange Crush": SOLD 1989 Chevy Silverado K2500: All Stock (For Now), 350 TBI/700R4. DD/Light Duty Toy.

11-15-2009, 11:12 PM	#27
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD LOL thanks for the comments, how many 16-17 year olds are on this site? __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-15-2009, 11:45 PM	#28
Scootin 81 C20 3/4 Ton Rodder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manlius, IL Posts: 1,146	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Well, we are three. I am until next month, then I'm 18. __________________ 1981 Chevy Scottsdale C20 "Orange Crush": SOLD 1989 Chevy Silverado K2500: All Stock (For Now), 350 TBI/700R4. DD/Light Duty Toy.

11-16-2009, 09:53 PM	#29
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD I got 2 questions here. The first: Is this bar suppose to be bent like it is or do I need a new one? The second:How do I get the hub or what ever its called off? __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-17-2009, 08:44 PM	#30
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Ok since that didnt get any replies, what all can I take off the front axle that wont cost me hundreds of dollars to put back on. Im trying to make a sorta show truck outta this thing so I dont want any rust on it. And I know next to nothing about axles and what not. I bought me some chassis saver and what not, trying to clean this front end up for paint. Edit:Everthing that has a rubber seal, like the tierods and what not, can I jsut buy new boots or do I have to replace that whole thing? __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver Last edited by GMC91; 11-17-2009 at 08:57 PM.

11-17-2009, 08:59 PM	#31
68Timber I know the pieces fit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MONTGOMERY, AL Posts: 5,523	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD I don't know much of anything about front steering gear, but that is the front tie rod and it needs to be replaced. Bent = trash pile. As far as removing it, I think the tool is called a pickle-fork, but you're really into territory where you need a very good shop manual. Not that you won't get help here, but a good shop manual is a must. __________________ John 79 2wd Blazer (Bruiser) 85 M1009 Blazer (Sarge) build 74 Honda Z50 build

11-17-2009, 09:04 PM	#32
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Where can I find one and how much will it cost? __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-17-2009, 09:29 PM	#36
64swb Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Camino, CA Posts: 182	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD that is what the spring perches are supposed to look like, the driver's side mount has a larger/slightly irregular shaped hole. __________________ 1978 Chevy C10, 1986 Chevy K20 'Burb, 1970 Chevelle, 1996 K2500 'Burb, 1977 Chevy K10, 1970 Ford F-250, 72 Ford F100 4x4, 1979 Chevy C30, 1982 Chevy C30, 1996 Chevy Dually 4x4 SAS, 1997 Chevy Tahoe, 1991 Ford F-350 cclb dually 4x4

11-17-2009, 09:39 PM	#37
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD I looked up the diagram for the front end, the bar thats bent is just the adjustment sleeve, its under $50 outta autozone. So now Im trying to take my tie rods out of it. Wat a PITA. New tie-rods are like $20 a peice. The internet does wanders. Thanks for all the replies. __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-17-2009, 10:07 PM	#38
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Everytime I look the part up and I find it, I can only find one for a 4:10 gear ratio. Is that going to matter? OR am I just screwed till I do go to a dealership? __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-19-2009, 06:01 PM	#40
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Well I hope that the parts house carries the part cause I just got back from the dealership and they no longer carry it. __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-19-2009, 06:26 PM	#41
74 C-30 Dually Pride Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NH Posts: 540	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD well i turned 18 today so now you make an 18 year old look bad as for your hub, dana 44? if so then you need to take off the locking hub (6-8 long skinny screws) then take that mess out inside (internal snap rings and a big goofy retaining nut that you can take off with a screwdriver and hammer if you dont have the special socket...ask me how i know...) then the hub should slide off. at least thats how it was on a TTB Ford dana 44 oh and all the steering parts are available at NAPA, autozone, advance, VIP, hell i bet you could get them through walmart __________________ If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand. '74 Chevy C-30 350/4 speed/dually '94 Ford Ranger Last edited by 74 C-30; 11-19-2009 at 06:27 PM.

11-19-2009, 10:10 PM	#42
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD OK well I got the first snap ring off, the little one on the inside of the hub, now what else and in what order to I need to take out? __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver Last edited by GMC91; 11-19-2009 at 10:16 PM.

11-21-2009, 06:52 PM	#43
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Well since Im at a stand still, no money to buy parts, I decided it was time for some cleaning. So I moved everything out of my side of the garage and cleaned it, presure washed the concrete, then moved stuff back in. Now I can walk with out stepping on stuff lol. Well anywho, got bored so I took some pics with my phone. Heres the frame as she sits. Here she is moved back in, Here is my Daily Driver, did a complete tune up today on it. And just for fun, my pyramid. __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-22-2009, 01:56 PM	#44
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD I pulled the gas tank today, one bracket was so rusted that it snapped, the other came off fine. How do I fix the broken bracket? Here are some pics. This is the good side This is the one that broke __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver



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11-22-2009, 02:18 PM	#45
Moody Blues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boothbay Harbor Posts: 50	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD I have an 87 3/4 ton which at some point is going to need what you are doing. Here is some things to consider. Your rear brakes, the cost of a disc brake conversion is not that much more than rebuilding the rear brakes if you intend to get new backing plates and drums. Also you have a daily driver so I am assuming the is no real rush to get this done. While you have the body off it might be a good time to box the frame even though you want it as a "show truck" it will give you piece of mind if you ever want to go off roading. I like the pyramid of dip cans when you get older the turn into beer cans/bottles and tend to slow your project down. Good on you for taking time to clean, parts the garage, everything. I believe you said you was going to put the 305 back in. My opinion is if your putting this much work in save your pennies and find a nice, running, 350 to put in. You will thank yourself latter. Good job kid it is looking good. if you need any info,stats,specs shoot me a message.

11-22-2009, 03:42 PM	#46
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Actually I looked the numbers up on the engine, it turns out to be an 86-88 350 2 or 4 bolt main. So all the motor will get is new seals and what not.Thanks for comments Moody. __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-22-2009, 04:12 PM	#47
Moody Blues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boothbay Harbor Posts: 50	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD Good deal I have a copy of the RPO codes if you want to figure out what you got for gearing and what not I can send them to you.

11-22-2009, 04:20 PM	#48
GMC91 Always trouble Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartsellle, Al Posts: 1,111	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD First you would have to explain what a RPO code is and where do I find it, but sure Id be greatful to know what gears I have. __________________ 91 Silverado Regular cab, 2wd, swb-project truck 97 Silverado Extended cab, 2wd, swb-driver

11-22-2009, 05:56 PM	#49
Moody Blues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boothbay Harbor Posts: 50	Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD inside the glove box there should be a bunch of codes there different options. i would cut and paste them on here but there is 104 pages. write down all your codes and send them to me at harborfire_17@yahoo.com and I will send you a list of your options and any info I get off them.

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