Control arms

[edflores]

Originally Posted by tazman87

brad, is their a way you can get me measurements for those??? i can get those laser cut dirt cheap.

I dont think Taylor from MMW is going to give up his hard work for you to copy them. Measure yours and come up with a cool design. If you have someone to cut them, he can probably design them too.

[N2TRUX]

Some of BuiltByBrooks work- LINK

[kvn1011]

those are sick as well!!
his fab and welding skills
are like Jordan in his prime!!

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by kvn1011

those are sick as well!!
his fab and welding skills
are like Jordan in his prime!!

Brooks is definitely a talented fabricator/welder.... and he is part of the PB crew. I come in late at night and on the weekends to practice...just to try and rival his TIG skills.

[dnd1978]

WOW look at the TIG skills!!

[68laydout]

Originally Posted by porterbuilt

Brooks is definitely a talented fabricator/welder.... and he is part of the PB crew. I come in late at night and on the weekends to practice...just to try and rival his TIG skills.

Both of you guys are insane fab/welders! Very talented to say the least.

[royo]

Originally Posted by Brad2thabone

Once i saw these, i was sold.

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Is there a advantage on these flat plate arms ? Or are they just different looking.

[tubbedII]

Originally Posted by royo

Is there a advantage on these flat plate arms ? Or are they just different looking.

Subscribed! I wanna know this too...

[JNJchev77]

I'm pretty sure the main advantage is the option of the Jeebus Joint, allowing for more travel. I'm sure someone else will chime in if not... Oh and I'm sure they are much stronger than the factory arms

[54Caddy]

who else sells control arms that accept the Jeebus Joint, and do you only use this joint on the upper or both upper and lower?

[royo]

Originally Posted by royo

Is there a advantage on these flat plate arms ? Or are they just different looking.

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[JNJchev77]

Originally Posted by 54Caddy

who else sells control arms that accept the Jeebus Joint, and do you only use this joint on the upper or both upper and lower?

Have no idea who else makes them.... I believe it's just the uppers.

[kvn1011]

Yep it is the uppers, they have been making arms for other trucks for some time,and just now starting to get into the c10 arena... ill see if I can dig up the thread that I discovered
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[kvn1011]

This is one thread I haven't seen
Q: How hard/what is the cost to rebuild a jeebus joint?
A:Its about 40$ But, the chances of having to rebuild one or replace one during your lifetime with the truck, are unlikely. They have a cycle rating 8x greater than the average ball joint.
Taylor __________________ www.MichiganMetalWorks.com

http://www.customdakotas.com/forums/...rms-22s-4.html
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[kvn1011]

And the other huge thread was @ www.streetsource.com
Do a google of jeebus joints and streetsource there is tons of info there
I tried to post it but the link isn't working right

[DHPmike]

Originally Posted by tazman87

brad, is their a way you can get me measurements for those??? i can get those laser cut dirt cheap.

Originally Posted by dv8customs

Suicide Doors and Dallas Hot Rod Parts offers them as well.

Yes I make them also. Mine mount to the stock location with the stock U bolts. I use the same balljoints that fit the factory arms and they never bottom or top out.

If you have your lower balljoints bottoming out when layed out then you have to move all the way across the travel to top it out. On a lower arm as long as these you would need alot more travel to top them out.

No reason for any balljoint other than a factory replacement other than looks or an extreme case where a factory balljoint has very little travel and/or there are very large wheels/tires involved.

maybe an import truck on large wheels...

on the design...first you need to come up with a unique design....then..

Basically you need someone to draw them in CAD and then you need the file emailed to you. You would need to answer some questions first.

bags or springs?

shock tabs made in or not?

sway bar tabs made in or not?

any design you want in the end?

what balljoint cup size will you be using?

what diameter bushing sleeves?

what are you planning to run for the crossbar? (makes a difference in width)

what bushings are you planning on running in the sleeves?

I have suggestions but since Im not an advertiser here and I also make these for retail and wholesale I cant comment here unless administrators approve it.

all these things are factors to take into account before cutting the plate.

I have a CAD program and regularly design parts. The parameters are very important.

[tazman87]

thanks mike. all good points. once i can get in to a shop with the truck i can start looking more into the control arms to start the design. and make the list you provided.thank you

[DHPmike]

Im also curious at what these weigh..

Factory arms are pretty heavy.

[tazman87]

well just that half inch laser cut plate may only weigh about 5-8 pounds

[DHPmike]

i bet thats not 1/2" first and half inch aluminum weighs about that much. I bet thats 3/4 in some of those pics and 1" in others. Taylor may be a member here and comment further.

My lower C-10 arm set made with 1.250" X .188" wall DOM, with crossbars, bushings balljoints and everything ready to ship weigh 48lbs. Im betting those weigh alot more than that. Someone here knows the formula for weight per square inch.

[Shane]

mild steel is approx .263 lbs. per CUBIC inch ... you can't calculate by square inch because the thickness of the material also has to be accounted for.

[DHPmike]

theres probably roughly the same amount of steel in those as a 12"x12" piece of 3/4" and thats about 30 pounds, maybe a little more depending on the material used in the mild steel. I bet a set of C-10 lowers weighs at least 60 lbs. if mine weigh 48 and these are probably 3/4" then these weigh at least 60 lbs.

if the C-10 arms are 1" thick then they weigh about 80 lbs.

[tazman87]

formula is
(Length x width x thickness x .286) this gives you exact weight for mild steel.

those blue web designed control arms could not exceed 10-12 pounds. after looking at them a second time lol

[tazman87]

and for the tube control arms. the plate used wouldn't have to exceed 3/8". even 3/8" is overkill. with the right fit up and design. 1/4" would work great! =)

[royo]

What is so great about these arms? besides the j joint