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ripdog28 · 10-23-2010, 10:59 AM

You do not need Alum heads AFR/DART/Brodix to make 500-600-700 HP at the crank. I have seen plenty 700 hp 496 with worked over stock Iron heads. Just look at the link i posted earlier. My Iron heads have been used on 680 hp BBC with no work done to them and pump gas. Check out some builds by David Vizard.

1971ls1longbed · 10-24-2010, 01:44 AM

so who makes a good set of cast iron heads

*stich626* · 10-24-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1971ls1longbed

so who makes a good set of cast iron heads

dart

1971ls1longbed · 10-24-2010, 06:11 PM

hey i was wondering if 500 for a running 427 with big oval heads is a good deal or should i hold out for a 454

1971ls1longbed · 10-24-2010, 06:32 PM

its out of a truck

ripdog28 · 10-24-2010, 08:04 PM

Out of what kind of a truck? Find out if it is a tall deck block. IMO it would be worth it.

djracer · 10-24-2010, 08:42 PM

I would not buy it if its a tall deck truck motor. Get the casting numbers and you can tell for sure.

1971ls1longbed · 10-24-2010, 11:50 PM

its out of an early 70s stake body truck

djracer · 10-25-2010, 08:10 AM

Its a tall deck I would stay away. A454 shouldn't be that hard to come by.

1971ls1longbed · 10-25-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by djracer

Its a tall deck I would stay away. A454 shouldn't be that hard to come by.

U were right i checked with a speed and machine shop in jersey and he has a 454 shortblock he want $400 for it im going saturday to get it

C low · 10-25-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1971ls1longbed

U were right i checked with a speed and machine shop in jersey and he has a 454 shortblock he want $400 for it im going saturday to get it

If it has not been done pay the guy to magnaflux the block its good insurance

1971ls1longbed · 10-25-2010, 07:12 PM

it was magnafluxed apperently it was dropped off and checked and it has just sat for the last 3 years

shawnt · 10-26-2010, 12:29 PM

stock 454 shortblock or ????
I got a complete 454 for $250...

Shawn

1971ls1longbed · 10-26-2010, 03:11 PM

Texas is a long way from jersey if u were closer i would be all over it

1971ls1longbed · 10-27-2010, 01:11 AM

does anyone have a good set of heads for sale

*stich626* · 10-27-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gearys 5600

$1100 bare ?? I paid $1800 for the brodix 2xtra cnc,d complete, ready to bolt on, Not having to spend $$ for port work is worth quite a bit.

no loaded..
a shop out of r.i. had them up at a super chevy show in N.H.
new in box, built for a customer that bolted..
they wanted 1600oo but I have no need for the springs,etc
so I said i'll take them for 1100.oo and you can keep the springs/locks/retainers/etc
they where like, na. but at the end of the last day, i stopped by again, and they gave my the heads and said keep the valve parts/springs/etc.

getbent · 10-27-2010, 09:22 PM

dart iron eagle 308,s jmo should produce plenty

1971ls1longbed · 10-28-2010, 12:16 AM

ok ill look into iron eagles any other options

ripdog28 · 10-28-2010, 02:23 AM

I have not touched my Dart 308cc and i can not get the 30in tall BFG Drag radials to hook at anything under 50MPH. For the $$ im glad i got them. David Vizzard uses these on a lot of builds with crazy results. You also need to figure the brackets and other stuff for a BBC if you dont have it in your budget. Gets expensive fast. But is well worth it.

1971ls1longbed · 10-28-2010, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripdog28

I have not touched my Dart 308cc and i can not get the 30in tall BFG Drag radials to hook at anything under 50MPH. For the $$ im glad i got them. David Vizzard uses these on a lot of builds with crazy results. You also need to figure the brackets and other stuff for a BBC if you dont have it in your budget. Gets expensive fast. But is well worth it.

Well if you're using them then they will definitely work for my build. As far as a cam goes i was looking to do a hyd roller setup any recommendations on duration and lift

ripdog28 · 10-28-2010, 10:58 AM

My cam is small but nasty with this set up. I have been told by a very reputable builder (Wolfsplace, AKA Mike Lewis) these heads like to go with a mid 240 int and a 250+exh. So 10+ separation. Lift depends on your Springs and the pistons you end up with. All honesty, if you want serious power call up Vortech pro. Best bang for the buck unless you want to build it. IMO, i would have went with him if i found him before building mine. I dont regret getting mine but he would have saved me some $$. Also figure a roller will set you back $1000 Springs, lifters, cam.

1971ls1longbed · 10-28-2010, 03:23 PM

I am going to assemble it myself

ripdog28 · 10-28-2010, 05:48 PM

I have about $4000 into my engine but had some killer deals on the parts. I can not complain about it one bit.

1971ls1longbed · 10-28-2010, 06:10 PM

im doing alot of careful shopping i do want to keep my costs down but im sure i can build an awesome rat with the help u have given me

69trk · 10-28-2010, 10:57 PM

I have 3800 in mine. Came with dyno sheets and everything, carb to pan. I also have rectangle 088 gen v heads that makes good power.

10-23-2010, 10:59 AM	#26
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: New to BBC You do not need Alum heads AFR/DART/Brodix to make 500-600-700 HP at the crank. I have seen plenty 700 hp 496 with worked over stock Iron heads. Just look at the link i posted earlier. My Iron heads have been used on 680 hp BBC with no work done to them and pump gas. Check out some builds by David Vizard. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.

10-24-2010, 01:44 AM	#27
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC so who makes a good set of cast iron heads __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-24-2010, 06:11 PM	#29
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC hey i was wondering if 500 for a running 427 with big oval heads is a good deal or should i hold out for a 454 __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-24-2010, 06:32 PM	#30
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC its out of a truck __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-24-2010, 08:04 PM	#31
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: New to BBC Out of what kind of a truck? Find out if it is a tall deck block. IMO it would be worth it. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.

10-24-2010, 08:42 PM	#32
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,892	Re: New to BBC I would not buy it if its a tall deck truck motor. Get the casting numbers and you can tell for sure. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

10-24-2010, 11:50 PM	#33
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC its out of an early 70s stake body truck __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-25-2010, 08:10 AM	#34
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,892	Re: New to BBC Its a tall deck I would stay away. A454 shouldn't be that hard to come by. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

10-25-2010, 07:12 PM	#37
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC it was magnafluxed apperently it was dropped off and checked and it has just sat for the last 3 years __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-26-2010, 12:29 PM	#38
shawnt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: sulphur springs texas Posts: 141	Re: New to BBC stock 454 shortblock or ???? I got a complete 454 for $250... Shawn __________________ Shawn 85 SWB 7.39 @ 93 Best so far with 0 tuning Lesson in life: Never fry bacon naked!

10-26-2010, 03:11 PM	#39
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC Texas is a long way from jersey if u were closer i would be all over it __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-27-2010, 01:11 AM	#40
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC does anyone have a good set of heads for sale __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-27-2010, 09:22 PM	#42
getbent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: pensacola florida Posts: 143	Re: New to BBC dart iron eagle 308,s jmo should produce plenty

10-28-2010, 12:16 AM	#43
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC ok ill look into iron eagles any other options __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-28-2010, 02:23 AM	#44
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: New to BBC I have not touched my Dart 308cc and i can not get the 30in tall BFG Drag radials to hook at anything under 50MPH. For the $$ im glad i got them. David Vizzard uses these on a lot of builds with crazy results. You also need to figure the brackets and other stuff for a BBC if you dont have it in your budget. Gets expensive fast. But is well worth it. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.



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10-28-2010, 10:58 AM	#46
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: New to BBC My cam is small but nasty with this set up. I have been told by a very reputable builder (Wolfsplace, AKA Mike Lewis) these heads like to go with a mid 240 int and a 250+exh. So 10+ separation. Lift depends on your Springs and the pistons you end up with. All honesty, if you want serious power call up Vortech pro. Best bang for the buck unless you want to build it. IMO, i would have went with him if i found him before building mine. I dont regret getting mine but he would have saved me some $$. Also figure a roller will set you back $1000 Springs, lifters, cam. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build. Last edited by ripdog28; 10-28-2010 at 11:01 AM.

10-28-2010, 03:23 PM	#47
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC I am going to assemble it myself __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-28-2010, 05:48 PM	#48
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: New to BBC I have about $4000 into my engine but had some killer deals on the parts. I can not complain about it one bit. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.

10-28-2010, 06:10 PM	#49
1971ls1longbed Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Voorhees NJ Posts: 188	Re: New to BBC im doing alot of careful shopping i do want to keep my costs down but im sure i can build an awesome rat with the help u have given me __________________ 1971 Custom 10 LWB. 461 BBC and built 700r4 to be transplanted 1997 C3500 DRW Ext cab. 454, 4L80E daily driver

10-28-2010, 10:57 PM	#50
69trk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bridgecreek ok. Posts: 1,214	Re: New to BBC I have 3800 in mine. Came with dyno sheets and everything, carb to pan. I also have rectangle 088 gen v heads that makes good power. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=494388 431 big block times, changed to a 6.0 ls with turbo 1.58- 60' 7.18- 1/8th mile@95.18 11.37- 1/4 @115.81

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