Attention All Air Baggers..

[tech@scottshotrods]

Tony and I were just speaking from personal experience since Jeremy, Tony and I were in warranty and would see them pop up it seemed after 2 or 3 years. Just some thing to keep any eye on. I know I'm no longer at air ride but we always like to pre warn a customer so they know exactely what they may or may not know what to expect.. I would in no way tell some one they will never have an issue you because they eventually down the road will wear and leak

[Tony@AirRideTech]

Thats because you are an install God Boris

[leftcoast66]

Originally Posted by (joey)

thats cool.any more info on this?does it work like the paddle switches?where did you buy them?

Its just a manual setup from Master Image Customs. About 7 or 8 years ago it was a great setup and popular. With the cost of the electric valves, its pretty much obsolete and MIC has switched hands a few times and from what I've heard from friends that had the setup, they have had more and more issues. I've got one of their early 1/4" setups, its worked great for the last 7 years with no issues as of yet. The setup is now on a shelf though, way too slow and drains right into the cab so is loud as heck. They were a neat product back in their time.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Tony@AirRideTech

Thats because you are an install God Boris

(sound of Tony under Boris' desk)

These manual/paddle valve set-ups work well for 'limited ajustment' (old) guys .

[tech@scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by scoti

(sound of tony under boris' desk)

These manual/paddle valve set-ups work well for 'limited ajustment' (old) guys .

snap!

[way2lo2]

Originally Posted by Tony@AirRideTech

Thats because you are an install God Boris

if I'm a god, you better start prayin............................prayin that last check I sent you is good that is

[Tony@AirRideTech]

****... and I stuck that title in the mail already........

[way2lo2]

Originally Posted by Tony@AirRideTech

****... and I stuck that title in the mail already........

what 61 belair.....uh uh I mean title for what?

[Tony@AirRideTech]

thats just wrong.... I dont care how you look at it.

[JNJchev77]

So let me get this right.... I can run these paddle valves, control all four bags separately, not run any valves or solenoids, it just runs a little slower?

Do I have to run 1/4 in line throughout the system or can I tap into 3/8 line? Any diagrams on how this set up is ran with 2 comprs and a 5gal?

I'm not an old guy, but I don't need my truck to hop or show off to anyone...

[GCncsuHD]

Originally Posted by JNJchev77

So let me get this right.... I can run these paddle valves, control all four bags separately, not run any valves or solenoids, it just runs a little slower?

Do I have to run 1/4 in line throughout the system or can I tap into 3/8 line? Any diagrams on how this set up is ran with 2 comprs and a 5gal?

I'm not an old guy, but I don't need my truck to hop or show off to anyone...

Yes. You can transition to 3/8 line but you will always be restricted by the 1/4" valves, although you would benefit some by running 3/8s up to the tee behind the valves.

[way2lo2]

Originally Posted by JNJchev77

So let me get this right.... I can run these paddle valves, control all four bags separately, not run any valves or solenoids, it just runs a little slower?

Do I have to run 1/4 in line throughout the system or can I tap into 3/8 line? Any diagrams on how this set up is ran with 2 comprs and a 5gal?

I'm not an old guy, but I don't need my truck to hop or show off to anyone...

yes, if your already plumbed for 3/8", we can supply a PTC reducer from 3/8" to 1/4" line. You run one line from each bag to the back of the panel and two lines from the tank to supply air to the panel. You can also run one line from the tank and tee it near the panel to supply the two lines needed to feed each pair of paddles.

[GhostTown]

Just cuz I'm reading along, and curious..... what size lines does the E3 system come with?

[way2lo2]

Originally Posted by GhostTown

Just cuz I'm reading along, and curious..... what size lines does the E3 system come with?

The standard e3 comes with 1/4" line but it will be quicker then a 1/4" paddle due to a larger orfice in the Ridetech valve. You can also upgrade the E3 to larger line for additional speed.
Boris

[GhostTown]

Is the upgrade you mention the "Big Red" valve?

[way2lo2]

Originally Posted by GhostTown

Is the upgrade you mention the "Big Red" valve?

That is correct.
B

[JNJchev77]

Originally Posted by way2lo2

yes, if your already plumbed for 3/8", we can supply a PTC reducer from 3/8" to 1/4" line. You run one line from each bag to the back of the panel and two lines from the tank to supply air to the panel. You can also run one line from the tank and tee it near the panel to supply the two lines needed to feed each pair of paddles.

May go this route, thanks!

[tech@scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by GhostTown

Just cuz I'm reading along, and curious..... what size lines does the E3 system come with?

The E-3 is the control unit it self, it comes both 1/4" (4000 and 4100 version)and 3/8" (4700 and 4800 version) when I left ART we were redesigning the big reds and wont be available until the end of march begining of april of this year... If you would like some pricing we have killer specials on Ridetech products right now...

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by JNJchev77

So let me get this right.... I can run these paddle valves, control all four bags separately, not run any valves or solenoids, it just runs a little slower?

Do I have to run 1/4 in line throughout the system or can I tap into 3/8 line? Any diagrams on how this set up is ran with 2 comprs and a 5gal?

I'm not an old guy, but I don't need my truck to hop or show off to anyone...

Everyone w/the newer electronics mention this is the 'prehistoric' method of 'air mgt'. I'm laughed @ when I mention using a system like this (usually from guys that have close to 2K tied up in their air mgt control systems). I've used this manual set-up very successfully & will continue to do so because of the cost difference as well as ease of maintenance.

I like running 1 supply line into the interior & 'T-ing' off of it as it's easier than plumbing multiple fill lines. The discharge to each corner is a must for 4-corner control (for a total of 5x .250" lines that have to be routed through the sheet metal/floor).

[61_FL_Apache]

It would be nice if this setup was 3/8 line size. I have run 1/4 on bags before and its fine.

[GhostTown]

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[tech@scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by GhostTown

lol.... Jon, I ordered an E3 system, and it finally showed up today.... minus any instructions.

Are there any instructions that should come with this kit? It seems kind of fancy to come with absolutely no printed instructions. Can I find something online?

Air Ride was slightly behind with compressors and harnesses, but have been reasssured they are geared up for the new year I placed an order yesterday and got an email notification it shipped yesterday as well as a kit I ordered today shipped today! They rock... Unfortunately I think you got caught in the mix with the harness and compressors and the tank you ordred direct... Any ways if you have any questions give me a call.. As I will call and pitch my b*tch about the absence of print instructions but to be safe did you open the envelope that says do not open? if not there in there and if you didnt get the envelope heres alink to the instructions. scroll down to the bottom and download them
http://www.ridetech.com/store/contro...ay-system.html

[GhostTown]

I down loaded the instructions. Thanks Jon.

[jjjmm56]

I m using the paddel valves with no problems. Other guys I know using 1/2" lines are allways flipping the switches to get to their ride hight, too high, too low, ah just right. All I need to do is hold the switch till I see my guage hit the right number and I'm done. Mine is set up with a mainfold supplied by a 1/2" line from the tank that splits into 2, 1/4 lines feeding the switches. Then 1/4" lines from the switches go back to the mainfold. Going to the bags from the mainfold are 3/8" lines. The system I would like to use runs around $1,500, that money can be used elsewere for now. The paddle valves may be slower but in my opinon are more user freindly.

[raider65]

jjjmm56

I am new to the airbag suspension setup but am looking for something simple an your setup looks like something like the direction i wanna go..I...Can i get more info on that manifold(?). The four outer lines are coming in from the bags passenger and Driver front and rear....what about the four inner lines? Where are those coming from or going too? Thanks.