Rattle can paint job

[DetroitDan]

You could always do what I'm doing. Buy a quart of Rustoleum Professional gloss black, A small paint tray and 4 inch ultra fine foam rollers, 100% mineral spirits (must be 100%, getting hard to find) Mix it roughly 5 to 1, lay on a thin coat with the roller, let dry 8 hrs, lay on 2nd coat, let dry, wetsand with 400-1000 grit depending on how the paint laid down. The rustoleum is self-leveling to begin with, then the mineral spirits helps it level even better. If you really only want flat black, you could slap another nice smooth coat on and call it done. What I'm doing is a little time consuming, especially on a huge truck like mine. 3rd coat, dry, 4th coat, dry, wetsand again. 5th coat, dry, 6th coat, dry, wetsand and buff with electric polisher and some decent compound. So, six thin coats wetsanded after every second coat, then buffed. You can do a fantastic looking paintjob this way for $50-$100 with no garage, no special equipment or compressor, and Rustoleum paint is made specifically to use on exterior metal. The stuff is tough!

If you're interested try reading up on the moparts forum, or just google rustoleum paintjob. You can practice on a hood or fender first if you want, til you get the hang of it. It's really easier than it sounds, wicked cheap too. Only thing is it's time consuming. I tend to put a coat on then not get back to it for months, but if you stuck to it you could have a small vehicle like a rc/sb done in a weekend.

The pictures of my 82 that are on here somewhere are with 2 coats, not yet wetsanded. The bed was already black, but the doors were multicolored then primed, the fenders were black and red two-tone. Truck looks half-way respectable already, and I've barely started.

[motornut]

I did my 87 4X4 burb by scraping the roof and other places the paint was peeling
wiped the truck with thiner and rolled/brushed the truck
did about three coats,worked great as i could fix things and drive it section by section
i did it in the sun/heat of the day and it dried quick
I used mine for winter driving and bush or camping

[justinburnett]

Originally Posted by DetroitDan

You could always do what I'm doing. Buy a quart of Rustoleum Professional gloss black, A small paint tray and 4 inch ultra fine foam rollers, 100% mineral spirits (must be 100%, getting hard to find)

If it's high gloss black, how do you make it flat?

[DetroitDan]

Originally Posted by justinburnett

If it's high gloss black, how do you make it flat?

I havent finished, so it has yet to be wetsanded or buffed. So it's not really glossy and shiny. It actually looks more like a satin black right now. It's not glossy but it's not as flat and chalkboard looking as the black primer look.

Here's a couple pics of what mine looks like. My roof was totally sunburned off, all I did was scuff it with a sanding sponge, wiped it with a rag and laid down some paint right over the multi-colored patina. The last pic is the Tremclad safety orange roller painted 69 Charger that sort of started it all.

[justinburnett]

That's pretty nice there. Do they happen to make that in an OD sort of color? That's what I've been thinking of painting my truck. It'll never be show quality and I want to hide some of the dings and such that would stand out like a sore thumb if it was glossy. I've seen a few of the old trucks in OD or camo and they look pretty cool to me.
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[johnny339]

that looks good dan the truck and the car where can you buy the Rustoleum Professional and mineral spirits thanks again for the help

[motornut]

yup looks good and the charger too

[DetroitDan]

I'm sure they probably do make it in OD colors, but I haven't seen it. I know they have flats, satins and gloss. The Professional seems to work just a little better than the regular "Rust Stop", but either is ok. It is available at any where they sell paint, Walmart, Ace hardware, Home Depot etc. I'm told the mineral spirits doesn't work well unless it's 100%, and when I went to buy it I had trouble finding it. Most places sell just the new low odor, EPA crap. But I found it in gallon jugs at Ace. Also, Rustoleum is sold under the name Tremclad in Canada.

I just ordered a new electric buffer so if it ever stops raining I hope to get back to work on it. If it's something you're interested in there's tons of info and how-to out there. Grab an old door or fender to practice on, you might be surprised what you can do.

[motornut]

thats what i used was tremclad

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by DetroitDan

I'm sure they probably do make it in OD colors, but I haven't seen it. I know they have flats, satins and gloss. The Professional seems to work just a little better than the regular "Rust Stop", but either is ok. It is available at any where they sell paint, Walmart, Ace hardware, Home Depot etc. I'm told the mineral spirits doesn't work well unless it's 100%, and when I went to buy it I had trouble finding it. Most places sell just the new low odor, EPA crap. But I found it in gallon jugs at Ace. Also, Rustoleum is sold under the name Tremclad in Canada.

I just ordered a new electric buffer so if it ever stops raining I hope to get back to work on it. If it's something you're interested in there's tons of info and how-to out there. Grab an old door or fender to practice on, you might be surprised what you can do.

You can buff this stuff?

[BigBlocksRule]

John Deere blitz black, made by Valspar. Tough as hell and a easy to touch up, it's what most of the hotrod shops use now.

[DetroitDan]

Originally Posted by 1tonchevy

You can buff this stuff?

yup. guy recommends an orbital buffer and taking your time, but I used a real buffer because I dont have that much time. You can burn thru if your not careful, but if you F it up you can easily fix it. Thats why Id suggest practicing on a junk part first. Another cool thing is if you scrape it up years later, you can still match the paint, do one panel and its good to go.

Nobody believes me when I tell them you can roller paint with rustoleum and have it look good, so I really want to finish my own truck to prove it. You can see by those roof pics how simple it is.

[johnny339]

Appreciate the help dan and it is looking good

[justinburnett]

That is damned nice, actually.

Could you shoot it? Not that I'm disbelieving your rolling technique, but I would think it would be faster to use a spray gun if you had one. My problem with paint is it's so damned expensive for auto paint normally, but this stuff looks kinda awesome for the price.

[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by DetroitDan

yup. guy recommends an orbital buffer and taking your time, but I used a real buffer because I dont have that much time. You can burn thru if your not careful, but if you F it up you can easily fix it. Thats why Id suggest practicing on a junk part first. Another cool thing is if you scrape it up years later, you can still match the paint, do one panel and its good to go.

Nobody believes me when I tell them you can roller paint with rustoleum and have it look good, so I really want to finish my own truck to prove it. You can see by those roof pics how simple it is.

Very nice. So is rolling on the only option or can i spray it with a gun or from a can also? just getting some idea of what i'm up against... my truck needs paint BAD! lol

[motornut]

you can thin it to spray tremclad
but i rolled mine after wiping it with thinner
being wet it seemed to help it flow it cracks etc and smooth out

[MWood]

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1

Is that the same Charger as the one in the site above?

[motornut]

just realized those are Ont plates

[DetroitDan]

yes, thats the one. if you ever have a lot of time, thats a great read. many people chimed in and reported their own results, people helped each other resolve problems, the naysayers were occasionally stopping by to say it couldn't be done. And yes, it can be sprayed, but I don't know much about that part of it. My nephew thinned and sprayed some on a cab corner he welded on for me, it came out good. But the roller method is mostly for people who don't have a compressor or a place to paint.

[justinburnett]

Anyone have a suggestion for a good spray primer since we're talking about off the shelf type stuff here?
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[1tonchevy]

Originally Posted by DetroitDan

yes, thats the one. if you ever have a lot of time, thats a great read. many people chimed in and reported their own results, people helped each other resolve problems, the naysayers were occasionally stopping by to say it couldn't be done. And yes, it can be sprayed, but I don't know much about that part of it. My nephew thinned and sprayed some on a cab corner he welded on for me, it came out good. But the roller method is mostly for people who don't have a compressor or a place to paint.

Thanksf or the great info. on last question i have a CC dually so sae truck as your plus the hips. how much paint is needed?

[DetroitDan]

I'd say a gallon. IDK yet. I just bought a quart and got two coats on the sides, one coat on the roof and hood. I bought another quart but havent got back to painting again. I'd rather just buy a quart at a time because I'm really slow about finishing things I start. And I think opening a gallon over and over would kill it faster over time. Maybe not. I think the Charger guy said he used 3/4 of a gallon and that's a pretty big car, so I'm sure you could use all of a gallon on a crew dually. Nice thing is there's no waste like when you spray it.

When I mix it up to paint I only make about a pint at a time.

[87chevy.com]

Originally Posted by DetroitDan

I havent finished, so it has yet to be wetsanded or buffed. So it's not really glossy and shiny. It actually looks more like a satin black right now. It's not glossy but it's not as flat and chalkboard looking as the black primer look.

Here's a couple pics of what mine looks like. My roof was totally sunburned off, all I did was scuff it with a sanding sponge, wiped it with a rag and laid down some paint right over the multi-colored patina. The last pic is the Tremclad safety orange roller painted 69 Charger that sort of started it all.

I just picked up a qt of gloss black in the rustoleum professional and a quart of the only mineral spirits they had, low odor... gonna see how it turns out on a spare hood i have...
clint

[DetroitDan]

good luck, any problems give me a shout I'll try to help. It's really really easy once you get a feel for it, but you cant go to fast or too slow or press down too hard, it's just a learned technique. Remember it's supposed to be very thin coats, if you change colors it takes till the 3rd coat to fully cover it up. Thick coats wont self-level and it will take much more wetsanding to get it flat.
Stir the paint, dont shake it. When you roll it out you may see a lot of tiny bubbles. some is ok, they will pop and lay out quick. If too many bubbles in the paint (its just from the air in the roller foam cells) you may be pressing down too hard. Try easing up a tad. Also, to get rid of bubbles wait about 1 minute then lightly coast the roller across them with hardly no pressure.
Dont forget to take some pictures as you go!

[johnny339]

just bought a quart of the flat white and flat black and like 87 chevy the only mineral spirits i could find was the low odor. Will let yall know how this turns out.