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litew8 · 07-19-2011, 06:54 PM

What the passenger side door looks like -

Replacement passenger door, needs a little work -

Glovebox SPID

Did some cleaning today, near 100 degree temp

No rush on these, just cleaning to see what's underneath - both look like keepers!

How did I miss this earlier? More custom pinstripe! Driver's door -
Pinstripe isn't on the passenger's side door, prob. because a prev. owner had repaired it once before!

litew8 · 07-21-2011, 03:51 PM

An hours worth of work today yielded some good results -

Steve Hafner · 07-22-2011, 08:44 AM

Did you ever find the serial number on your frame ? There' "SUPPOSED" to be one on top of the frame, near where the power steering hose overlaps your frame in the first picture here ( of your truck ). The other picture here shows someone pointing to THAT area of their own truck.

litew8 · 07-22-2011, 03:03 PM

Thanks Steve, never knew there was another one stamped on the frame. Went out to look and found it. Showed up nice after being blasted. It isn't the same number scheme as the VIN though.

Steve Hafner · 07-22-2011, 05:40 PM

The number that you first posted had a "1" in front and that, I think, should be for "71". I thought some of the other numbers should be the last five numbers of your serial number ( maybe ). There are a lot of other threads on this site that talk about this subject. At the very top of any of these pages, there is a Google search box that has: "WEB - 67-72chevytrucks.com" Type in: " Frame number" or "Number on frame" in that search box and a lot of other older threads will come up. Make sure you check the circle that says: "67-72chevytrucks.com" and NOT the one that says: "WEB". The list below, decodes the serial numbers for 67-72's. The rest would have a letter ( in my case "B" for the Baltimore plant ) and a "1" followed by the build sequence of your truck.

litew8 · 07-22-2011, 06:04 PM

^ What you are refering to is the VIN number. That I have. It's on the SPID. I've already identified the cab (SPID) and frame (cab mounts positions / and extra support brackets - both oulined in pics up thread) to be a C20. Now I understand that I have a truck - in which somebody switched out the rear with a 1/2 ton axle/differential. The truck can no longer support the weight of what a 3/4 ton truck can - due to the fact it has a 1/2 ton axle/differential. The number I posted, and took down - wasn't the same numbering scheme as the VIN. If the number on the front of the frame is a serial number, it might not mean much. I looked and couldn't find info on that number, but the VIN I've got decoded. I'll check some more.

litew8 · 07-23-2011, 04:17 PM

First 90+ degree weather w/high humidity (111 heat index), now rain

litew8 · 07-23-2011, 06:24 PM

Steve, you were right.

The number on the frame by the power steering is a partial of the VIN.
It does not specify the Chassis Type, GVW Range or Model Code (hence, not the same scheme).
It does match the second half of the VIN on the glovebox SPID -

1) 1971
2) Janesville production plant
3) Serial Number

What it doesn't specify is the Chassis Type, GVW Range (1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton) or Model Code.
What this tells me = My cab does in fact go with the frame

source: http://outintheshop.com/vin_decode.html

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Next thing to identify - differential.
I know nothing about axle/differentials, only that a 3/4 ton truck of this age should not have a 5 lug axle.
Looks like maybe the differential could be from a 3/4 ton? Not sure, I'll have to investigate when I have time, or someone could respond and save me the trouble?

"GM CORPORATE 12-BOLT
The stronger 12-bolt, with an 8 7/8-inch-diameter ring gear, can be found in various 1964-82 GM 1/2- and 3/4-ton rearends"
source: http://coloradok5.com/axleguide.shtml

litew8 · 07-24-2011, 11:39 PM

Small update. Took the bench out tonight and removed the sound damping material and cover. Don't think I can salvage them. Here's what the cab floor looks like:

before

after

found some stamps under it all, no idea what their from

Got the front/right caliper freed the other day. Put the bench seat back in (temporarily), and now my truck is FINALLY ready to be taken to the body shop tomorrow morning for cab work.

Steve Hafner · 07-24-2011, 11:46 PM

Boy, you ARE young if you don't remember these !!!!

litew8 · 07-26-2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Hafner

Boy, you ARE young is you don't remember these !!!!

ha, I wish. You jogged my memory a little. I VAGUELY remember them. My mother use to collect them and buy things. Guess there was a booklet used to fill up. She bought a few things with them - small brass, or metal, peacocks that hung on the wall, and some Bambi decorations for my older brother's room when he was a baby.

wicky · 07-26-2011, 05:27 PM

Hell yeah how's things going up there
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litew8 · 07-26-2011, 07:03 PM

hey Nick, Things are going good man. What's up with your engine? Get it sorted yet?

wicky · 07-27-2011, 09:38 AM

Yeah i threw my hei out of my sbc in it. And took the carb apart n cleaned it. Still have a dead spot in the secondarys so I've got a kit with metering rods n jets etc coming for it. Hopefully get that worked out. Other than that it runs great

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**Dieselwrencher** · 07-27-2011, 08:47 PM

Nice project man. It looks to be in above average conditon for our neck of the woods.

Who did you have do your blasting?

litew8 · 07-28-2011, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicky

Yeah i threw my hei out of my sbc in it. And took the carb apart n cleaned it. Still have a dead spot in the secondarys so I've got a kit with metering rods n jets etc coming for it. Hopefully get that worked out. Other than that it runs great

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very cool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Nice project man. It looks to be in above average conditon for our neck of the woods.

Who did you have do your blasting?

Thanks! Wish the bedside and fender agreed.

Not sure if I should just weld a patch on the right/bottom fender or just replace the whole thing. One of my two bedsides was rusted through pretty good. The other bedside I have seems salvageable, but on the inside/back of it, it looks like some bad rust. My fear is that if I don't replace it entirely, the rust will break through to visible areas after I paint it. That'd suck. Can't seem to find any decent (oem) bedsides for a LWB around here.

For the sandblasting, I asked their permission to post their name (w/the pictures) - but not sure I got a response. I'll end up going back to get some more work done and I'll ask again.

**Dieselwrencher** · 07-28-2011, 07:18 PM

They must not want anymore business then.

I have a pair of 8' bed sides that aren't bad I'd sell really reasonable.

litew8 · 07-28-2011, 07:43 PM

Not sure they need the business.

That'd be cool, PM me some pics.

litew8 · 07-30-2011, 04:24 PM

Realized I never posted pics of the tailgate.

Going to try and remove this sticker to put on the replacement tailgate.

**lolife99** · 07-30-2011, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litew8

Going to try and remove this sticker to put on the replacement tailgate.

I would just buy a new one.
They don't come off too easy.
http://www.classictruck.com/product/..._Trucks_Decals

litew8 · 07-30-2011, 11:33 PM

Thanks Keith! Of all my looking, I never seen the decal til now. Got it.

litew8 · 08-08-2011, 01:27 PM

Went to the shop and took some pics.

Driver's side

Passenger's side

litew8 · 08-10-2011, 06:34 PM

Found a 1969 tailgate on CL last night in Madrid, IA.
OEM - was taken off in early 70's for a camper top. Stored ever since!
Great condition (very straight) with very minor surface rust on bottom corner. Will post pics later!

paid $100

**Dieselwrencher** · 08-10-2011, 06:56 PM

Nice score. The truck is looking good.

litew8 · 08-11-2011, 04:37 AM

cleaned up

07-19-2011, 06:54 PM	#26
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	more pics What the passenger side door looks like - Replacement passenger door, needs a little work - Glovebox SPID Did some cleaning today, near 100 degree temp No rush on these, just cleaning to see what's underneath - both look like keepers! How did I miss this earlier? More custom pinstripe! Driver's door - Pinstripe isn't on the passenger's side door, prob. because a prev. owner had repaired it once before! Last edited by litew8; 07-19-2011 at 07:23 PM.

07-22-2011, 08:44 AM	#28
Steve Hafner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northport, Alabama Posts: 1,353	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Did you ever find the serial number on your frame ? There' "SUPPOSED" to be one on top of the frame, near where the power steering hose overlaps your frame in the first picture here ( of your truck ). The other picture here shows someone pointing to THAT area of their own truck. Attached Images __________________ . . . . Life is short . . . we only have, right now. . . . . My 70 C-10's BUILD THREAD: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=475526

07-22-2011, 03:03 PM	#29
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Thanks Steve, never knew there was another one stamped on the frame. Went out to look and found it. Showed up nice after being blasted. It isn't the same number scheme as the VIN though. __________________ project: "my happy mess" Last edited by litew8; 07-22-2011 at 03:25 PM.

07-22-2011, 05:40 PM	#30
Steve Hafner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northport, Alabama Posts: 1,353	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" The number that you first posted had a "1" in front and that, I think, should be for "71". I thought some of the other numbers should be the last five numbers of your serial number ( maybe ). There are a lot of other threads on this site that talk about this subject. At the very top of any of these pages, there is a Google search box that has: "WEB - 67-72chevytrucks.com" Type in: " Frame number" or "Number on frame" in that search box and a lot of other older threads will come up. Make sure you check the circle that says: "67-72chevytrucks.com" and NOT the one that says: "WEB". The list below, decodes the serial numbers for 67-72's. The rest would have a letter ( in my case "B" for the Baltimore plant ) and a "1" followed by the build sequence of your truck. Attached Images __________________ . . . . Life is short . . . we only have, right now. . . . . My 70 C-10's BUILD THREAD: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=475526

07-22-2011, 06:04 PM	#31
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" ^ What you are refering to is the VIN number. That I have. It's on the SPID. I've already identified the cab (SPID) and frame (cab mounts positions / and extra support brackets - both oulined in pics up thread) to be a C20. Now I understand that I have a truck - in which somebody switched out the rear with a 1/2 ton axle/differential. The truck can no longer support the weight of what a 3/4 ton truck can - due to the fact it has a 1/2 ton axle/differential. The number I posted, and took down - wasn't the same numbering scheme as the VIN. If the number on the front of the frame is a serial number, it might not mean much. I looked and couldn't find info on that number, but the VIN I've got decoded. I'll check some more. __________________ project: "my happy mess" Last edited by litew8; 07-22-2011 at 06:25 PM.

07-21-2011, 03:51 PM	#27
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	An hours worth of work today yielded some good results -

07-23-2011, 04:17 PM	#32
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	weather First 90+ degree weather w/high humidity (111 heat index), now rain __________________ project: "my happy mess"

07-23-2011, 06:24 PM	#33
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Identification Steve, you were right. The number on the frame by the power steering is a partial of the VIN. It does not specify the Chassis Type, GVW Range or Model Code (hence, not the same scheme). It does match the second half of the VIN on the glovebox SPID - 1) 1971 2) Janesville production plant 3) Serial Number What it doesn't specify is the Chassis Type, GVW Range (1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton) or Model Code. What this tells me = My cab does in fact go with the frame source: http://outintheshop.com/vin_decode.html -------------------------------- Next thing to identify - differential. I know nothing about axle/differentials, only that a 3/4 ton truck of this age should not have a 5 lug axle. Looks like maybe the differential could be from a 3/4 ton? Not sure, I'll have to investigate when I have time, or someone could respond and save me the trouble? "GM CORPORATE 12-BOLT The stronger 12-bolt, with an 8 7/8-inch-diameter ring gear, can be found in various 1964-82 GM 1/2- and 3/4-ton rearends" source: http://coloradok5.com/axleguide.shtml __________________ project: "my happy mess"

07-24-2011, 11:39 PM	#34
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	update Small update. Took the bench out tonight and removed the sound damping material and cover. Don't think I can salvage them. Here's what the cab floor looks like: before after found some stamps under it all, no idea what their from Got the front/right caliper freed the other day. Put the bench seat back in (temporarily), and now my truck is FINALLY ready to be taken to the body shop tomorrow morning for cab work. __________________ project: "my happy mess" Last edited by litew8; 07-24-2011 at 11:54 PM.

07-24-2011, 11:46 PM	#35
Steve Hafner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northport, Alabama Posts: 1,353	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Boy, you ARE young if you don't remember these !!!! Attached Images __________________ . . . . Life is short . . . we only have, right now. . . . . My 70 C-10's BUILD THREAD: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=475526 Last edited by Steve Hafner; 07-26-2011 at 04:58 PM.

07-26-2011, 05:27 PM	#37
wicky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: knkxville iowa Posts: 186	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Hell yeah how's things going up there Posted via Mobile Device

07-26-2011, 07:03 PM	#38
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" hey Nick, Things are going good man. What's up with your engine? Get it sorted yet? __________________ project: "my happy mess"

07-27-2011, 09:38 AM	#39
wicky Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: knkxville iowa Posts: 186	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Yeah i threw my hei out of my sbc in it. And took the carb apart n cleaned it. Still have a dead spot in the secondarys so I've got a kit with metering rods n jets etc coming for it. Hopefully get that worked out. Other than that it runs great Posted via Mobile Device

07-27-2011, 08:47 PM	#40
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Nice project man. It looks to be in above average conditon for our neck of the woods. Who did you have do your blasting? __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

07-28-2011, 07:18 PM	#42
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" They must not want anymore business then. I have a pair of 8' bed sides that aren't bad I'd sell really reasonable. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*



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07-28-2011, 07:43 PM	#43
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Not sure they need the business. That'd be cool, PM me some pics. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

07-30-2011, 04:24 PM	#44
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	tailgate Realized I never posted pics of the tailgate. Going to try and remove this sticker to put on the replacement tailgate. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

07-30-2011, 11:33 PM	#46
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Thanks Keith! Of all my looking, I never seen the decal til now. Got it. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

08-08-2011, 01:27 PM	#47
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Weekend Update Went to the shop and took some pics. Driver's side Passenger's side __________________ project: "my happy mess"

08-10-2011, 06:34 PM	#48
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	score!! - tailgate found Found a 1969 tailgate on CL last night in Madrid, IA. OEM - was taken off in early 70's for a camper top. Stored ever since! Great condition (very straight) with very minor surface rust on bottom corner. Will post pics later! paid $100 __________________ project: "my happy mess"

08-10-2011, 06:56 PM	#49
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: Project "My Happy Mess" Nice score. The truck is looking good. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

08-11-2011, 04:37 AM	#50
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	tailgate pics cleaned up __________________ project: "my happy mess"

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