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SCOTI · 11-21-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Air bags CAN handle great but when they are aired up to get a proper spring rate for handling they sit to high and a static drop car with static spring rates is already at its ride hight so it will outperform bags with ease

Airbags = great stance nice ride and moderate handling
Springs = harsh or soft ride. Moderate stance great handling when setup that way and a good stance with about the same fab as bags

What type of air suspension set-ups have you built and/or tweaked? From my experience (steel coils & bag set-ups on my own personal 6X-74 trucks that were done similarly)....

Airbags or steel Springs = harsh or soft ride depending on how they're set-up.
Moderate stance & great handling can be achieved w/either spring type again depending on how they're set up.
Steel coils can be set up w/a good stance (ride height) with about the same fab as bags but won't have the same adjustability.

7deuce · 11-21-2012, 08:37 PM

Are we really going to question the suspension on this truck!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pro touring cars have air ride and handle great!...Lets save the "How to bag a truck 101" questions out and lets see the man build an over the top truck. From the photos so far my guess is the truck will be 110% show quality.

7deuce · 11-21-2012, 08:40 PM

Oh and the only way to go suspension wise on these trucks is Porterbuilt!!!!!!!!!! The days of Zing a frame are long gone and I'm pretty sure this truck has a full Porterbuilt setup.

volker · 11-21-2012, 08:58 PM

All porterbuilt stuff controlled with accair front and rear sway bars and most likely Hal qa1 billet adjustable shocks , i want all this power to the ground for sure
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volker · 11-21-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DIRTY HAIR

very nice truck

Thanks
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INSIDIOUS '86 · 11-21-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

What type of air suspension set-ups have you built and/or tweaked? From my experience (steel coils & bag set-ups on my own personal 6X-74 trucks that were done similarly)....

Airbags or steel Springs = harsh or soft ride depending on how they're set-up.
Moderate stance & great handling can be achieved w/either spring type again depending on how they're set up.
Steel coils can be set up w/a good stance (ride height) with about the same fab as bags but won't have the same adjustability.

I've done my own susp work and been in both types. Race cars don't use bags lol nuff said.

You need to get that engine started for us and post a vid!
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7deuce · 11-25-2012, 02:13 PM

Maybe NASCAR does not use air ride but there are tons of protouring cars that are on air and have great suspension response.

Hoods69BadBowTie · 11-25-2012, 03:10 PM

Sweet looking project looks like fun. The bed is killer gonna be badass when its all done

Keep up the good work on it!

Can't kech me · 11-25-2012, 10:49 PM

quote from post #179 in Project Joe Tourings build thread made by the c10 suspension guru robnolimit of No Limits Engineering

" A spring is just a spring. And, an air spring has a naturally progressive spring rate. I guess the most important thing is getting the right bag at the right hieght to get the spring rate that you want. You can have it all, it just takes a little homework. To be honest, we fix air ride systems every week, and 99.9% of all problems can be tied to parts choice, or installation. Shocks and sway bars are still important. "

Justin36 · 11-25-2012, 11:27 PM

Awesome truck!
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volker · 12-04-2012, 03:04 PM

wilwood brakes came last week 14" 4 piston rear end should be back anyday i had it narrowed 5" and a 4:10 posi

meter swinger · 12-04-2012, 03:17 PM

God bless, another sick C10. LOVE the wheels. That bed fabwork is awesome. Keep it coming im scribed.

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Kainedogg · 12-14-2012, 11:22 AM

Subscribed for the finale.

mooseknuckles · 12-28-2012, 11:01 PM

updates?

moneyeater · 12-29-2012, 10:20 AM

Looks very good and matches my taste!
Volker (thats my name)

volker · 01-03-2013, 12:49 PM

rear end is back its going in tonight , my wilwood brake petal with remote bottles showed up . i been working on the getting the bed straight the cowl panel i welded some of the vents closed to make them even and been welding on the bottom of the hood to fill in the holes

volker · 01-03-2013, 12:50 PM

heres a few more

volker · 02-10-2013, 06:08 PM

More pics coming tomorrow
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Mad Rods · 02-10-2013, 06:17 PM

Sweet build bro
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volker · 02-10-2013, 06:30 PM

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VA72C10 · 02-10-2013, 06:41 PM

great looking build!

74 stepside · 02-10-2013, 11:38 PM

Really nice ride you are building. Looking forward to seeing it completed.

meatwagon83 · 02-10-2013, 11:42 PM

its a nice truck, i wouldnt have cut it up, but its still a nice truck, just dont put a real busy paintjob on it

jbristo67 · 02-11-2013, 02:31 AM

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jbristo67 · 02-11-2013, 02:32 AM

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its a nice truck, i wouldnt have cut it up, but its still a nice truck, just dont put a real busy paintjob on it

There are a million of these. Cut away
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11-21-2012, 08:37 PM	#27
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Are we really going to question the suspension on this truck!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pro touring cars have air ride and handle great!...Lets save the "How to bag a truck 101" questions out and lets see the man build an over the top truck. From the photos so far my guess is the truck will be 110% show quality.

11-21-2012, 08:40 PM	#28
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Oh and the only way to go suspension wise on these trucks is Porterbuilt!!!!!!!!!! The days of Zing a frame are long gone and I'm pretty sure this truck has a full Porterbuilt setup.

11-21-2012, 08:58 PM	#29
volker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 95	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s All porterbuilt stuff controlled with accair front and rear sway bars and most likely Hal qa1 billet adjustable shocks , i want all this power to the ground for sure Posted via Mobile Device

11-25-2012, 02:13 PM	#32
7deuce Sold! 2 days after finished Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 327	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Maybe NASCAR does not use air ride but there are tons of protouring cars that are on air and have great suspension response.

11-25-2012, 03:10 PM	#33
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Sweet looking project looks like fun. The bed is killer gonna be badass when its all done Keep up the good work on it! __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!

11-25-2012, 10:49 PM	#34
Can't kech me Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 222	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s quote from post #179 in Project Joe Tourings build thread made by the c10 suspension guru robnolimit of No Limits Engineering " A spring is just a spring. And, an air spring has a naturally progressive spring rate. I guess the most important thing is getting the right bag at the right hieght to get the spring rate that you want. You can have it all, it just takes a little homework. To be honest, we fix air ride systems every week, and 99.9% of all problems can be tied to parts choice, or installation. Shocks and sway bars are still important. " __________________ "As I walk through the valley of rice i fear no honda, for i have torque!" My truck>http://http://67-72chevytrucks.com/v...d.php?t=418618

11-25-2012, 11:27 PM	#35
Justin36 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Selmer, Tennessee Posts: 744	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Awesome truck! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Justin

12-04-2012, 03:04 PM	#36
volker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 95	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s wilwood brakes came last week 14" 4 piston rear end should be back anyday i had it narrowed 5" and a 4:10 posi Attached Images

12-04-2012, 03:17 PM	#37
meter swinger Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kennewick WA. Posts: 1,437	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s God bless, another sick C10. LOVE the wheels. That bed fabwork is awesome. Keep it coming im scribed. Posted via Mobile Device

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12-28-2012, 11:01 PM	#39
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12-29-2012, 10:20 AM	#40
moneyeater Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern Germany,near Bremen Posts: 684	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Looks very good and matches my taste! Volker (thats my name) __________________ My little US vehicle parts business: http://www.thegearheaddepot.com/ Come have a look! ´81 GMC C 10, Spanish Red

01-03-2013, 12:49 PM	#41
volker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 95	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s rear end is back its going in tonight , my wilwood brake petal with remote bottles showed up . i been working on the getting the bed straight the cowl panel i welded some of the vents closed to make them even and been welding on the bottom of the hood to fill in the holes Attached Images

01-03-2013, 12:50 PM	#42
volker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 95	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s heres a few more Attached Images

02-10-2013, 06:08 PM	#43
volker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 95	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s More pics coming tomorrow Posted via Mobile Device



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02-10-2013, 06:17 PM	#44
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02-10-2013, 06:30 PM	#45
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02-10-2013, 11:38 PM	#47
74 stepside Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 815	Re: "Bittersweet" 83 dropmember blown LS 22s Really nice ride you are building. Looking forward to seeing it completed.

02-10-2013, 11:42 PM	#48
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