Dually to SRW

[chevy1ton]

Originally Posted by mopar346

I believe the bed wheel wells are opened up on a dually bed so removing the fenders will leave an unsightly opening. Look inside the rear fender and you will see if I am right.

I have heard that the housing are the same, it is the hubs, backing plates, and axles are different. Not sure if that is true or if it applies to the 70. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will clarify if it is an option. IF you are still giving it any thought, I personally would let it be, its what most of us are would love to have.

I think you might be right about the bed, maybe I'm thinking the other way around, adding fenders to a regular bed to make a dually.
The fr D60 stays and you switch just the fr wheel hubs, everything else gets used the D70 has to be swapped for the 14blt as stated, I have never heard anyone using a D70 for SRW unless modified.

[mopar346]

Originally Posted by meatwagon83

i think its awesome the way it is, how is making it a single going to make it a better daily?

I think he means from the stand point of narrower, easier to manuver. Not that it still want be 40 ft long.

[meatwagon83]

Originally Posted by mopar346

I think he means from the stand point of narrower, easier to manuver. Not that it still want be 40 ft long.

the mirrors are just as wide as the dually fenders, so just rock it, plus, mine fits trough atms so what the problem?

[kevinr1970]

So I have a line on a CC Dually that is nicer than the CC I have now.
I plan on converting it to a short bed SRW, but this time I think I am going to leave the 1-ton (or make 3/4 ton depending on what I find for parts to swap it).

I am under the impression that the 1-ton rears (DRW or SRW) are a different spacing (narrower?), so unless you plan to do some modding like welding on new perches, it is not a direct swap.
Can anyone confirm or refute that?

[87 3+3]

Originally Posted by jsavage977

Yup 4" lift springs in the front and 3.5" blocks in the rear. I cant remember the tire size off hand but I think they are 265 75 r16

Awesome truck! I cant wait to put a lift on mine as soon as i get it running.

[rs72z]

Originally Posted by kevinr1970

So I have a line on a CC Dually that is nicer than the CC I have now.
I plan on converting it to a short bed SRW, but this time I think I am going to leave the 1-ton (or make 3/4 ton depending on what I find for parts to swap it).

I am under the impression that the 1-ton rears (DRW or SRW) are a different spacing (narrower?), so unless you plan to do some modding like welding on new perches, it is not a direct swap.
Can anyone confirm or refute that?

I took my truck from srw 3/4 ton to drw 1 ton. All i had to do on the rear was swap from the 14 bolt ff to the dana 70. spring pads were in the same spot.

[chevy1ton]

The center to center measurement of the spring perches are different by 1 1/2", the 1 ton being narrower than 1/2 or 3/4 ton.
Shock mounts are also different, 1 ton shocks mount on the inside of the frame, the 1/2-3/4 bolt up outside the frame.
That is the one thing you guys have to look for when swapping to the 14blt ff.
There are many more of the true 1 ton axles out there than the the ones for 1/2-3/4 ton.

[chevy1ton]

I knew I had some good info on the 14blt, it took me a while to find;
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/
Sorry, the spring perch width difference is 2" not 1 1/2" as I originally stated.

Here is more than you'll ever want to know about D60's;
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ont/index.html

[rs72z]

Originally Posted by chevy1ton

The center to center measurement of the spring perches are different by 1 1/2", the 1 ton being narrower than 1/2 or 3/4 ton.
Shock mounts are also different, 1 ton shocks mount on the inside of the frame, the 1/2-3/4 bolt up outside the frame.
That is the one thing you guys have to look for when swapping to the 14blt ff.
There are many more of the true 1 ton axles out there than the the ones for 1/2-3/4 ton.

Not completely true.
My 3/4 ton has the same measurments as the 1 ton on springs and the shocks are inside the frame not outside.
That being said, my truck is a camper special that may make it have the same suspension as a 1 ton.

[chevy1ton]

Originally Posted by rs72z

Not completely true.
My 3/4 ton has the same measurments as the 1 ton on springs and the shocks are inside the frame not outside.
That being said, my truck is a camper special that may make it have the same suspension as a 1 ton.

You may have a 1 ton frame, things to check for;
The mid section of the frame is 8" on 1 ton, 6" on 3/4.
The rear leaf spring, front mount center of bolt to the bottom of your bed brace will be 9" on 1 ton, 12" on 1/2-3/4 ton, this is also why you will rarely find a listing for a lift kit for a 1 ton. The same springs result in different heights to each truck, 1 ton being lower because leaf spring is mounted higher on the frame. I had to put both trucks side to side and measure everything back when I started mixing the parts myself.
They may have done some strange things with the early (pre '80) trucks that I have not heard of before the true 1 ton came out. What year is yours?
Maybe you have an odd ball, that's one thing I like about these trucks each truck can be night and day different from the other but look a like.
The 1 ton chassis couldn't be more different, I was handicapped with my 3/4 ton, everything I have is 1 ton, I had no parts for it.
Check out your measurements on your truck, I would be curious to know what you find out.

[rs72z]

My truck is a 78, i should mention also that it's a crew cab. That could make a difference also.

The center of the frame is 8".
The front spring hanger is 7 1/2" from bed brace to center of the bolt.

It has the 1 ton front hangers because i bought some drop hangers for a 1/2 ton that wouldnt work.

[jsavage977]

Originally Posted by 87 3+3

Awesome truck! I cant wait to put a lift on mine as soon as i get it running.

yea man it will be sweet. yup I think im gonna do the switch when i get money someday to srw with the hummer rims and tires. ill go with 6 inch lift springs in the front and if the rear needs more ill so a shackle flip. then unbolt the wide hips and weld the holes up and yup the fenders are cut out but "they" sell weld in bed patches for that. then shoot it up with some metallic black ha ha. this is all according to if i ever get money saved up.

[chevy1ton]

Originally Posted by rs72z

My truck is a 78, i should mention also that it's a crew cab. That could make a difference also.

The center of the frame is 8".
The front spring hanger is 7 1/2" from bed brace to center of the bolt.

It has the 1 ton front hangers because i bought some drop hangers for a 1/2 ton that wouldnt work.

Yeah, all crew cabs are 1 ton. Your springs are mounted even higher, I have seen them mounted that high with DRW cab/chassis before even a 3" block from the factory. Goes to show how different each can be.
Imagine that, the front of your rear springs mounted 4 1/2" higher than a standard 3/4 ton, how hard is it going to be to lift that truck? On the flip side I used my old 1 ton rear springs (8 over 1) in my 3/4 ton and had to use 4" springs in front to level it out.
A shackle flip with the original springs and maybe a 2" block would get you some decent height quick.

87 3+3, Have fun with your truck the way it is, hope you got some learning.

[87 3+3]

Originally Posted by jsavage977

yea man it will be sweet. yup I think im gonna do the switch when i get money someday to srw with the hummer rims and tires. ill go with 6 inch lift springs in the front and if the rear needs more ill so a shackle flip. then unbolt the wide hips and weld the holes up and yup the fenders are cut out but "they" sell weld in bed patches for that. then shoot it up with some metallic black ha ha. this is all according to if i ever get money saved up.

That will look awesome, especially with the bead lock hummer rims. I cant wait to see pictures of it when its all done!

[kevinr1970]

Originally Posted by rs72z

I took my truck from srw 3/4 ton to drw 1 ton. All i had to do on the rear was swap from the 14 bolt ff to the dana 70. spring pads were in the same spot.

rs72z, maybe you can answer this question; if a drw truck is lowered using spindles in the front, and I wanted to go srw, am I throwing the spindles away, or is everything that mounts on the spindle the difference?

[martindc1]

If you must change it to SRW, measure Wheel Mounting Surface (WMS) of the D70 then compare it to the width of a 14BFF before pulling the trigger on swapping axles. All you would need to do for the front is change the D60 hubs from DRW style to SRW style.

A guy on another forum put HMMWV wheels on a 1 ton and he used DRW hubs in the front and then a DRW D70 with 14BFF hubs in the rear to widen the WMS width. So thats why I question how much difference there really is between the WMS width of a DRW D70 and a 14BFF.

If you still want to do all this and decide you need to switch to a 14BFF, just make sure to find one from a 1 ton.

[Chevyrules]

i want these duallys

[Anchorism]

Originally Posted by 87 3+3

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Those are some VERY awesome wheels youve got there! Id be really interested in them if and when you get rid of them for the alcoas. Which are these do you know?

[esbstuff]

Originally Posted by meatwagon83

you need a different rear, sell it and find a srw

I never knew that... I think I would try single before I spent $$$ on a rea.

[Daveyboy1983]

Originally Posted by meatwagon83

i think its awesome the way it is, how is making it a single going to make it a better daily?

Ever try pulling through a bank drive through lane with a dually?? Pain in the Arse! haha!

[meatwagon83]

Originally Posted by Daveyboy1983

Ever try pulling through a bank drive through lane with a dually?? Pain in the Arse! haha!

didnt you read that i said it fits trough the atms? bank drive throughs drive through carryouts do you have mirrors on your truck? if your mirrors fit your fenders will too! maybe he should sell it and get a shortbed slammed on 22s if he cant handle a big truck!

[87 3+3]

Originally Posted by Anchorism

Those are some VERY awesome wheels youve got there! Id be really interested in them if and when you get rid of them for the alcoas. Which are these do you know?

ya, i either want to put brushed aluminum alcoas on it or stock white wheels. I love the way white wheels, bumpers, and mirrors look. I dont know what kind of wheels are on it off the top of my head. I will check this evening though.

[Anchorism]

Originally Posted by 87 3+3

ya, i either want to put brushed aluminum alcoas on it or stock white wheels. I love the way white wheels, bumpers, and mirrors look. I dont know what kind of wheels are on it off the top of my head. I will check this evening though.

Ive got 2 complete sets maybe even more of the white wheels if your interested in maybe making a deal. And ive got family that goes to Idaho on occasion who could possibly make it happen without shipping. Dont be fooled by my location, my two rigs are in Southern Colorado with my dad.

[87 3+3]

Originally Posted by Anchorism

Ive got 2 complete sets maybe even more of the white wheels if your interested in maybe making a deal. And ive got family that goes to Idaho on occasion who could possibly make it happen without shipping. Dont be fooled by my location, my two rigs are in Southern Colorado with my dad.

Ya, we might be able to make a deal. I will talk to my dad this evening. Do you have any pictures of the white wheels? And what part of Idaho does your family visit?

[Anchorism]

Originally Posted by 87 3+3

Ya, we might be able to make a deal. I will talk to my dad this evening. Do you have any pictures of the white wheels? And what part of Idaho does your family visit?

Id have to ask where. Its my brother in law. As for the wheels i can send you a link to the truck ive got. Ones a parts truck and one is the truck im rebuilding. I know theyre dirty and i havent seen the ones on the parts truck in person yet. I can ask my dad to take pictures of the wheels up close but it might take a few days as he is a very busy man with his job and his ranch! lol. Heres a link. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=573607