Better ride for 59 Apache

[Dan in Pasadena]

More than your budget!
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[Frijolito1988]

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

More than your budget!
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DOH !

I was just thinking that would be perfect and we could do it in a weekend. What is the ball park 2.5k , 3 k?

[Mac the Yankee]

X 3...

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by Frijolito1988

DOH !

I was just thinking that would be perfect and we could do it in a weekend. What is the ball park 2.5k , 3 k?

A weekend? You're dreaming. I haven't looked it up in awhile but I THINK it's about $3,500. You're wanting these trucks to be easy and cheap. They're neither.
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[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

A weekend? You're dreaming. I haven't looked it up in awhile but I THINK it's about $3,500. You're wanting these trucks to be easy and cheap. They're neither.
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Dan you stop it right now. We've all thought that when we purchased things and after awhile we learned it was much different. Allow this brother to have his growing pains.lol

[Frijolito1988]

Guys I found a frame out of a 78-81 camaro, they are asking $400 for it. This should be a good fit '?

[Frijolito1988]

We went to the brothers show today, man it was HOT.But lots of beautiful trucks. I noticed that most 55-59 had a welded on front IFS. I think about 80%- 90% had IFS and I think my Dad is leaning more towards a camaro IFS.

I did see this company that had a booth that was selling a weld on kit for the front and rear that will bolt on any Corvette 84-96 parts..That was interesting.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Dan you stop it right now. We've all thought that when we purchased things and after awhile we learned it was much different. Allow this brother to have his growing pains.lol

Stop cluing him in? Ha ha, yeah...let him suffer the same way we have...now THAT'S funny.

Typing from Buelton, CA on my way back to LA. Hot here and I can only imagine how you guys at the Brothers Show are "suffering"!
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[Mac the Yankee]

I know that location can certainly have an effect on price, but my subframe was only $150. $400 seems a bit high to me!

[Dan in Pasadena]

Latest price I saw was $450, but that's SoCal and a Craigslist ad not searching in earnest for a good price at a junkyard.
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[dicer]

Sell the Apache and keep the newer one with the nice ride. Thats the cheap way to go.
In 20 more years you will kick yourself for messing up the 58 / 59, nonmessed up ones will go for 100's of thousands, they will be as rare as snowballs in a forest fire.

[fabguy]

I think the camaro front clip is a little high priced myself, you should be able to find the whole car for about 200 more. Keep what you want and either sell or scrap the rest, both ways you put money back into your pocket. You will have to search pretty hard for that price but they are still out there sitting in some ones drive way or back yard. Everyone is loking on CL so the really good deals go quick.
In the end, do what makes you feel good, its your trucks. If it means you kill 3 to get a good one then so be it, your money do what you want with it. If you kill 3 trucks for 1 good one, then that means 20 yrs from now yours will be worth more than if they were easier to find. Maybe even worth 100 of thousands of dollars.

[Indian113]

The clip could be a little high it just depends on the overall shape it's in. If you buy a cheap one and have to completely rebuild it you can really run into some money! Don't ask me how I have experience in this.

It's to bad your so far a way I have a 76 Camaro clip with power steering box still attached and heavy duty sway bar I'd sell cheap. I know I have all the projects I need and don't need any more parts laying around.

[Kabwe]

Frijolito1988

Ignore Dicer and do what you really want to do to your ride. The rest of us guys and gals on this site know what he is all about. He pops up every now and then to try to pour salt on all non stock guys.

Anyway just keep asking your questions and we will try to help the best we can. Look at the build projects and if you see something you like ask questions.

The majority of guys and gals on this site are not judgmental and will go out of their way to help.

[Daze57]

road trip ! for the clip

[fabguy]

If you can get it to western Colorado, I have a truck leaving there at the end of this week and can get it to you from there for almost nothing.
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[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by Frijolito1988

I did see this company that had a booth that was selling a weld on kit for the front and rear that will bolt on any Corvette 84-96 parts..That was interesting.

That is nice way to go also. Flatout Engneering sales a cross member that you can bolt the corvette components on. They also sale the kit for the rear if you chose to have IFS and IRS. There are many choices out there you have have to find whats right for you.

Here is a link to their website for you.
http://www.flatout-engineering.com/

The good thing is, you can do this kit for about the same price that it would cost you to do a aftermarket Mustang 2 unit and in my opinion its better. You don't have to cut your frame, there for you don't have to worry about alignment of the front sheetmetal like you would with a clip.

Now nothing is wrong with a clip but its just a little more work involved. So you are trading a little more expense (doing an aftermarket kit) vs a little more work (doing a clip). I've done both and still do and you can't go wrong either way if you take your take and measure and don't rush it.

[Indian113]

I've got $125.00 in the clip, if I can break even I'd be happy!

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by Indian113

I've got $125.00 in the clip, if I can break even I'd be happy!

That is very nice of you man. It makes me happy to see car guys willing to help other car guys.

[Indian113]

I gotta get it out of the yard before my wife get's in THE SCRAP MODE!

[Daze57]

^ x 2 i agree with kabwe
i am runninig a 85 vette rear end and it is designed v v well - had no probs. installing it .
as far as the front i am running a gm clip - it was done a long time ago but done well .
take your time - think about what you really want and go for it !

[Daze57]

great price for that clip sir

[Indian113]

It's not perfect by any means. the frame horn is bent on one side in front of sway bar mount. I was going to cut that off any way but I sold that project before I needed the clip. I would rather update the suspension on my 64 with new parts than clip it. The aftermarket is full of updates for the 60-66 trucks. My Model A sure doesn't need a clip and yes Dicer I'm ruining it! It has a SBC with 9inch rear and 4 bar suspension with coil overs and chopped top in the works!!!! If I get these 2 done I'll have spent all the money I can.

[Frijolito1988]

Thanks for all the info guys!

I think we are going to be doing some sort of weld in IFS. Not a chop/ replace front suspension type. I think we are leaning towards the Corvette one.

here are the reason

1. My dad does not feel comfortable enough to cut off the front chassis and re weld another one, he is a great welder, we have a shop with all the tools ( compressors, welders , plasma cutters ect ) but he is scared it might come out crooked and feels is too risky for us to do and I know if we send it to a shop it will be over 1K just in labor probably.

2. We have no problem removing the all the front suspension parts and just welding on a front IFS that is much easier and can definitely do that in a weekend.

They sell a kit for $800 were a complete c4 front end will just bolt right up, if that is the case the only thing we have to do other than remove the front suspension stuff and weld this in is custom make some brake lines from the calipers to the valve and some u-joint thing for the power steering.

Here is a pic of it, all the red brackets is the frame that welds on and everything else is 100 % stock C4 front suspension that bolts right up.

[Frijolito1988]

Originally Posted by Indian113

I've got $125.00 in the clip, if I can break even I'd be happy!

Thanks for the offer bud! really generous!