Scott's IFS vs No Limit

[gag1025]

Several reasons. The bolt in system was designed so that no boxing was required. It was easier to install because it was easier to drill a few holes than to it is to weld. The other consideration was that even though I consider myself a good welder, I would have felt better to have a professional welder do the work (because of the safety issues) which would have cost extra as well as me having to trailer the frame to him. Plus the fact I would have had to then box the frame. In a few hours we had the bolt in system installed. I guess after looking at all the pros and cons of both systems it came down to personal preference.

I am also including a section from Scott's web site that addresses this issue.


Weld-In or Bolt-In?

You have spent months trying to decide on the best IFS to buy. You’ve looked at different companies and options. Finally you have decided on our suspension and all the options are narrowed down. Only, one last decision you weren’t expecting; weld-in or bolt-on.

Every suspension that we manufacture carries a lifetime guarantee on the parts that we manufacture. No matter weld-in or bolt-in, this does not change. It is one of the reasons that we do not manufacture a bolt-in suspension for every application. Each bolt-in IFS has been carefully engineered to provide a lifetime of service and functionality. There have been no sacrifices made in design to “accommodate” a bolt-in unit; rather, each one has been redesigned from its original weld-in application.

So, weld-in or bolt-in? When deciding on one or the other, think about 3 things; first is price. Each bolt in unit will run $500.00 more than the same unit as a weld-in. Additional time and materials make this necessary. We have done everything we can to keep this addition as low as possible.

Second thing to consider is ease of installation and skillset of installer. This is sort of a no-brainer. If you or your installer cannot weld, or does not want to weld, the bolt-in is the one for you.

So what is the typical cost of a weld in v a bolt in? We won’t discuss removal of the engine and sheet metal because those will vary based on car. To start though, the sheet metal and motor should be off and out of the car. It will speed things up tremendously and trying to work around them will only slow the process down.

With our weld in units we have found that the typical install takes about 2 days to install the front crossmember and weld in in complete. That does not include welding in the motor mounts or hooking the steering up. Those 2 can typically be done within 8 hours, but with the vast amount of motor options, that is only an estimate.

Our bot-in units will install faster because there will be less “setting the car/truck up”. All your plates will already be welded in place to set ride height. In most cases the centerline is already predetermined also. Historically the complete bolt-in units will install in less than a day with only basic hand tools and mild drilling for bolts. In some cases our bolt-in units will require the installation of rack notches as well as a bung to be welded in for the steering shafts. These are application specific and will be determined once we discuss it with you.

Last thing to be aware of is the ability to return your car or truck back to stock. With 100% of our bolt-ins, the car or truck can be returned back to stock with no effort. Nearly all of or bolt-ins do not require any welding (including the steering and motor mounts)

If you still are unsure about which way to go, just give us a call and let us help you decide. We’ll be glad to help and make sure you end up with the best choice for you and your car/truck.

[gag1025]

I am posting some photos of my system.

[fatman]

Looks awesome gag1025. Now that just make me have to think of something else!lLOL. I'm not an experienced welder by no means so I may look into this set up!


Mr48 is there a certain year and model of a jaguar front end I should be looking for?

[gag1025]

From what I had seen the weld on units were a few hundred dollars cheaper than the bolt on units. I figured that it was going to cost me that much for someone to weld the unit on and I could bolt the unit on. We followed the directions and installed it and it worked great. We made all the measurements and it was 100% perfect and totally in line. Then we took it back apart and painted it and reinstalled it. My guess is that we saved a day or two by bolting it on. Plus, just like the Scott's article said (heaven forbid) if something happens to the truck you can remove it and install it on another truck.

[fatman]

Great points! Like my grandfather used to to say "time is money"!!!!!

[gag1025]

Sounds like your grandfather and mine had the same philosophy.

[55dude]

it's always one or the other!

[fatman]

True I get some time to work on the truck but no money!!!

[CHIZZLER]

scotts.i likem low and fast.

[fatman]

CHIZZLER those are very nice rides! Do you have Scotts in both?

[55dude]

Originally Posted by fatman

CHIZZLER those are very nice rides! Do you have Scotts in both?

X2!

[CHIZZLER]

yes.both trucks.front and back.very good quality parts.1 piece front crossmember.