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Old 06-17-2014, 07:22 PM   #26
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Re: R12 Conversion to R134A?

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For educational purposes: what is the failure mode of having moisture in the desiccant/drier? Does it freeze under heavy duty use and cause problems?

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When you suck a vaccum you get most/all of the air out but some moisture gets left behind. The dessicant is supposed to soak the rest up so it isn't circulating either. Since air and water don't boil the same as the refrigerant they are just in the way and taking up space that could be occupied by stuff that will. If the system is left open (or empty) chances are the dessicant is saturated and no matter what you do there will be moisture circulating. Then the pressures won't ever be quite right, and despite your best fine tuning efforts it will be cool bit not cold, because there's water in there that's not taking heat off the evaporator anywhere near as good as the refrigerant does.

Its another one of those 2° tricks that alone isn't much but you add that 2° with the 2° you get from straightening all the condenser fins and the 2° you get from this or that and you're seeing the difference between cool and cold.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:44 AM   #27
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Understood; thank you -

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Old 06-18-2014, 02:25 PM   #28
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Re: R12 Conversion to R134A?

I just rebuilt my system and used some of the great tips I got from folks on here. I did end up getting a new compressor (not rebuilt), and a new crossflow type condenser. It was hard to find the condenser and cost about $40 more but it seems to work well, and fit right in the stock location. One other note: I rented the vacuum and gauges from Auto zone, got my money back but it was about $350 .
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I just rebuilt my system and used some of the great tips I got from folks on here. I did end up getting a new compressor (not rebuilt), and a new crossflow type condenser. It was hard to find the condenser and cost about $40 more but it seems to work well, and fit right in the stock location. One other note: I rented the vacuum and gauges from Auto zone, got my money back but it was about $350 .
where did you find the crossflow condenser?
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:21 AM   #31
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Re: R12 Conversion to R134A?

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the effects of using a high output electric fan to augment lower AC temps @ lower engine speeds. This is where the use of an electric fan shines vs. a mechanical one with regards to low speed AC performance.
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Old 12-19-2014, 01:09 PM   #32
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Re: R12 Conversion to R134A?

Best source of info I've found is the forums over at ackits.com

If you convert, be SURE you have ALL of the R12 oil out, and I'd recommend new hoses for several reasons (better materials, not aged, get rid of old oil, etc).
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