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*Randy70C-10* · 08-27-2003, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CPNE
today is a slow day at work.

You work

haha

*Randy70C-10* · 08-27-2003, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tom hand
10 years from now what ever custom mods you made will be out of style and the stock ones will be worth twice what they are selling for now.

He's definately right about that, fads come and go. (like the hot pink streetmachines of the 80's)

NSANE68!!! · 08-27-2003, 10:35 AM

STOCK SUCKS!! I know it is harsh but just my opinion.

imdarren · 08-27-2003, 10:42 AM

I say . . . . . .
Just don't burn any bridges.
I wouldnt cut or do anything that cant be changed back easily.
Just my .02

Darren

**CPNE** · 08-27-2003, 10:45 AM

CUSTOMS BLOW!!

Okay, now that all the ORAL arguments are out of the way....

palallin · 08-27-2003, 10:47 AM

It's your truck: do with it what you will.

That said, I personally go with stock or close to it (mods made with factory stuff from the same period. In so far as possible, my truck will have almost all parts from the same era, even though some of the parts installed on it at the factory were beyond salvage. The engine is another '69. The T-case is another Rockwell T-221. The bed is a step, rather than a fleet, but it's a '69 bed. Even the a/c compressor I'm going to use as a simple air compressor is a period York. The only exceptions are the carb/intake combo (which may yet revert to original) and the HEI (which may revert, too, if it keeps failing on me), and maybe a set of 2" lift springs. Because of its harsh life, my truck would never be a candidate for a Concourse Restoration, but it will be largely period correct, and no non-period mods will be irreversible.

I don't LIKE new vehicles, which is why I drive one that's 34 years old, and I don't want to impose new characteristics on it.

Of course, my opinion and $.59 will get you a cup of coffee at Hardees.

*Randy70C-10* · 08-27-2003, 10:50 AM

It's your truck.

boraxman · 08-27-2003, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imdarren
I say . . . . . .
Just don't burn any bridges.
I wouldnt cut or do anything that cant be changed back easily.
Just my .02

Darren

Now that makes sense

Chevelle454 · 08-27-2003, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy70C-10
It's your truck.

LOL thats how I pulled the motor out of my friend's motorcyle...

Anyway, I wouldn't be doing anything that could not be changed back. No serious modifications to the engine, maybe just a cam, intake and carb.

The interior would be kept mostly stock except I want carpet instead of rubber matting, a newer style seat(I would make brackets so no new holes would need to be drilled), a smaller steering wheel, and carpet over the gas tank instead of cardboard. All this is reversible.

One more thing, I want a CD player but do not want to cut the dash. I am having a custom center console built that will sit where the shifter would be on a 4-speed. I will put the CD player in there and I am even thinking about one of those little 7" wide TVs you can buy at Best Buy.

I will keep all original pieces. This is the way I think I am going to go with the truck. All your comments have really helped me decide. Now, to keep or not to keep the original color...

Scott

junkyardjohn · 08-27-2003, 11:23 AM

I LIKE TO MODIFY MY TRUCKS TO MAKE THEM MORE COMFORTABLE, GO FASTER, STOP QUICKER, RIDE BETTER, HANDLE BETTER, LOOK PRETTIER, SOUND BETTER, RUN MORE DEPENDABLE, HAVE ALOT NICER SOUND SYSTEM, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD ONE WITH POINTS IGNITION, AM RADIO,SINGLE EXHAUST, STOCK BRAKES,& STOCK SUSPENSION, THATS OK TOO. JUST LEAVE IT ON THE TRAILOR, & DON'T TRY TO DRIVE IT IN MODERN TRAFFIC.

**CPNE** · 08-27-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

JUST LEAVE IT ON THE TRAILOR, & DON'T TRY TO DRIVE IT IN MODERN TRAFFIC.

I say why just modernize, when you can prepare your classic for this!

Truckhead · 08-27-2003, 12:55 PM

Back in the day, all original was worth more because modifications were done usually by the owner which the quality was questionable, but now its not the case anymore with the availability and quality of aftermarket parts. Build it for you, not anyone else.

palallin · 08-27-2003, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by junkyardjohn
BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD ONE WITH POINTS IGNITION, AM RADIO,SINGLE EXHAUST, STOCK BRAKES,& STOCK SUSPENSION, THATS OK TOO. JUST LEAVE IT ON THE TRAILOR, & DON'T TRY TO DRIVE IT IN MODERN TRAFFIC.

I do so all the time; what's the problem?

crazy longhorn · 08-27-2003, 02:00 PM

Ahh ,the rodders vs the stockers

I think Randy c 10 said it right with the sazall

crazyL

NSANE68!!! · 08-27-2003, 02:31 PM

My favorite T-shirt. Also in my Avtar.

Mudder · 08-27-2003, 02:43 PM

No comment!!!!!!!!

mtdave2 · 08-27-2003, 02:52 PM

i Dont think you should even worry about what would be worth more. Very few can build a truck and sell it for more than they have it... hell, even close to what they have in it would be good most people would lose their ass... so dont even worry about it.
if you are looking for an investment. Buy a stock or bonds lol not a truck.

the old custom or original argument. lol, another waste of time. its like arguing what color is better.. Its all a matter of taste. Some (like me) love the classic old look. connection with the past etc. others.. like some of the freaks above hahahah, like having one of a kind trucks with all kinds of cool mods... whats better? only depends on who you ask.

Harley's are another deal just like this. The popular view right now is the West coast chopper, occ, stretched, fat tire wild crap bikes.... to me i think they are crap, ugly, uncomfortable, not worthy of riding on a trip.. ect..nothing but flashy look at me crap. imho!

Others see a restored 65 pan head or a new factory road king and yawn.. I see beautiful history, classy bike. and a very functional comfortable touring bike....

Boils down to what you want.. screw everyone else!

Less filling! Tastes great!!!!!

*Shane* · 08-27-2003, 03:02 PM

Customize it until it no longer even remotely resembles anything original!

Carl71 · 08-27-2003, 06:38 PM

Agree do with it what you want, Buy stocks for and investment.

jcueckert13 · 08-27-2003, 06:41 PM

go with how you want it. my father said says the same thing about the truck i am building (1969 gmc k20 with a richmond 6 speed and a divorced t case)

FRENCHBLUE72 · 08-27-2003, 06:44 PM

It's your truck, if you are gonna keep it make it your kind of truck . If you are just gonna sell it make it a truck that fit's what you like but can easily change to fit someone else's want's.

c-tenkid · 08-27-2003, 06:57 PM

I bought my truck bone stock.It had daul exhaust and rally wheels.Other than that the motor was stock right down to the points distrubitor.It still had the orginal three on the tree.

At first I drove it all stock.Then the two barrel carb went south.I weighed my options and decided to get a new edelbrock 600cfm.For two reasons.For one the truck was so slow it was boring.Two I could probably get better gas milage for the 4 barrel because of the smaller primary's anyway.Since I was going from a two barrel to a 4 I had to get a new intake.So I got a performer RPM.One of my buddies grinded the edelbrock off and painted it orange.It looks pretty factory.After I got the intake realized he didn't have a performer RPM.Plus that new intake was so shiney.So I get the truck apart.I have a brand new comps cam cam and lifters along with their couble roller timing chain set sitting in another motor that has never been fired.So I took that cam out and put it in the factory 307..(I had been told it was a 350)So anyway I get it all back togother and it wont run worth a darn.I thought it was the dang points distrubitor so when my buddy offered me a good HEI with an accel coil for 20 bucks I couldn't resist.So That went in.It ended up being I had installed the cam out of wack.(my first cam swap and listening to some not so smart people)So Now my truck had an intake,carb,cam,and an HEI.I also installed a sun supertach.I hose clamped it to the steering column making myself fell better about another modifcation by telling myself it was alright because they did that along time ago.For some reason this truck makes me feel like I am my dad.It is hard to explain.MY dad past away.And he always used to tell me stories about how he used to have hotrods when he was a kid.I wanted to get something that maybe he would have had.I knew one of his dreams truck was a 69 short bed 3/4ton 4wd.The closest thing I could find or afford was a 69 lwb c-10.Not exactly but oh well.

Do I regret it?Heck no.Listening to that cam lope made my blood run.Being able to break them lose at 35mph was an awesome feeling.Guess what now I was biten by the speed bug.So I kept tuning it and tuning it.Till one day I was racing a new dodge truck and my clutch disk exploded.What to do now?Sure a new clutch was in order.Why not throw that 350 in the garage in it.Along with some headers.So a new lunati cam and lifters set along with a new double roller timing chain was installed.Some heads with bigger valves,a high volume oil pump,And a set of hedman headers.So the new 350 and clutch was installed.So now my truck didn't even have the original motor in it.Which I tottally intended on keeping it in there.(turns out it is a 307 the p/o told me it was a 350.)

Anyway 4 days later the 350 spins a main bearing.The problem was though that 350 made that truck pretty fast.It would now get a third gear scratch at 55mph.

Since then I have weighed my options.I am going to rebuilt this 350 fairly stock and keep the three on the tree.And work on the body keeping it semi original while still being mine.I instead going to get an s-10 and putt a 408 small block in it.Who cares if I make an s-10 not original.

I didn't mean to write that much.opps!

treefrog · 08-27-2003, 07:12 PM

As the saying goes, opinions are like a viable bodily orifice everybody has one, so here's mine. Everything I've built has been stock, and mine's about to undergo a transformation.

I will keep the stock appearance (pics to follow soon), but from there I'm going to dress it up a bit, but keep the stock body. That sets ours apart. So far mine has about everything on it except a DeSoto part anyway (soon to be incorporated because of principle), so go for what looks good to you. I won't agree that "stock sucks", but there is room for improvement in the original design. TFrog

*Randy70C-10* · 08-27-2003, 09:23 PM

Sawzall!

GMC71k20 · 08-27-2003, 09:36 PM

i think the coolest thing going right now is the FADrags, these are cars that appear stock but have all hidden modifications. they even race them on poly-glas tires.
i agree with CPNE on some accounts, if a truck is all intact, never been touched, rare, or highly optioned it should be kept stock.
if you want to add your own touches to a truck find something thats borderline scrap pile. id rather see crappy custom trucks than junk trucks.

08-27-2003, 10:35 AM	#28
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	STOCK SUCKS!! I know it is harsh but just my opinion. __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

08-27-2003, 10:42 AM	#29
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	I say . . . . . . Just don't burn any bridges. I wouldnt cut or do anything that cant be changed back easily. Just my .02 Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

08-27-2003, 10:45 AM	#30
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	CUSTOMS BLOW!! Okay, now that all the ORAL arguments are out of the way.... __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

08-27-2003, 10:47 AM	#31
palallin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. James, MO Posts: 1,238	It's your truck: do with it what you will. That said, I personally go with stock or close to it (mods made with factory stuff from the same period. In so far as possible, my truck will have almost all parts from the same era, even though some of the parts installed on it at the factory were beyond salvage. The engine is another '69. The T-case is another Rockwell T-221. The bed is a step, rather than a fleet, but it's a '69 bed. Even the a/c compressor I'm going to use as a simple air compressor is a period York. The only exceptions are the carb/intake combo (which may yet revert to original) and the HEI (which may revert, too, if it keeps failing on me), and maybe a set of 2" lift springs. Because of its harsh life, my truck would never be a candidate for a Concourse Restoration, but it will be largely period correct, and no non-period mods will be irreversible. I don't LIKE new vehicles, which is why I drive one that's 34 years old, and I don't want to impose new characteristics on it. Of course, my opinion and $.59 will get you a cup of coffee at Hardees. __________________ '69 Longstep K-10: 327/SM465/T-221/Closed Knuckle Dana44/12-bolt.

08-27-2003, 11:23 AM	#35
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	I LIKE TO MODIFY MY TRUCKS TO MAKE THEM MORE COMFORTABLE, GO FASTER, STOP QUICKER, RIDE BETTER, HANDLE BETTER, LOOK PRETTIER, SOUND BETTER, RUN MORE DEPENDABLE, HAVE ALOT NICER SOUND SYSTEM, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD ONE WITH POINTS IGNITION, AM RADIO,SINGLE EXHAUST, STOCK BRAKES,& STOCK SUSPENSION, THATS OK TOO. JUST LEAVE IT ON THE TRAILOR, & DON'T TRY TO DRIVE IT IN MODERN TRAFFIC. __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

08-27-2003, 10:50 AM	#32
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	It's your truck.

08-27-2003, 12:55 PM	#37
Truckhead 18436572 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Waynesboro, Va. Posts: 488	Back in the day, all original was worth more because modifications were done usually by the owner which the quality was questionable, but now its not the case anymore with the availability and quality of aftermarket parts. Build it for you, not anyone else.

08-27-2003, 02:00 PM	#39
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,402	Ahh ,the rodders vs the stockers I think Randy c 10 said it right with the sazall crazyL __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

08-27-2003, 02:31 PM	#40
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	My favorite T-shirt. Also in my Avtar. Attached Images __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

08-27-2003, 02:43 PM	#41
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	No comment!!!!!!!!

08-27-2003, 02:52 PM	#42
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	i Dont think you should even worry about what would be worth more. Very few can build a truck and sell it for more than they have it... hell, even close to what they have in it would be good most people would lose their ass... so dont even worry about it. if you are looking for an investment. Buy a stock or bonds lol not a truck. the old custom or original argument. lol, another waste of time. its like arguing what color is better.. Its all a matter of taste. Some (like me) love the classic old look. connection with the past etc. others.. like some of the freaks above hahahah, like having one of a kind trucks with all kinds of cool mods... whats better? only depends on who you ask. Harley's are another deal just like this. The popular view right now is the West coast chopper, occ, stretched, fat tire wild crap bikes.... to me i think they are crap, ugly, uncomfortable, not worthy of riding on a trip.. ect..nothing but flashy look at me crap. imho! Others see a restored 65 pan head or a new factory road king and yawn.. I see beautiful history, classy bike. and a very functional comfortable touring bike.... Boils down to what you want.. screw everyone else! Less filling! Tastes great!!!!! __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

08-27-2003, 03:02 PM	#43
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Customize it until it no longer even remotely resembles anything original!

08-27-2003, 06:38 PM	#44
Carl71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 242	Agree do with it what you want, Buy stocks for and investment.

08-27-2003, 06:41 PM	#45
jcueckert13 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edgewood New Mexico Posts: 2,088	go with how you want it. my father said says the same thing about the truck i am building (1969 gmc k20 with a richmond 6 speed and a divorced t case) __________________ 1990 subaru legcy (daily driver) 1987 Toyota 4runner (weekend toy) 1968 C30 flatbed dually 1970 C10 longbed stepside (in pieces) 1976 Dodge Dart 1963 Dodge Dart

08-27-2003, 06:44 PM	#46
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08-27-2003, 06:57 PM	#47
c-tenkid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Festus mo Posts: 370	I bought my truck bone stock.It had daul exhaust and rally wheels.Other than that the motor was stock right down to the points distrubitor.It still had the orginal three on the tree. At first I drove it all stock.Then the two barrel carb went south.I weighed my options and decided to get a new edelbrock 600cfm.For two reasons.For one the truck was so slow it was boring.Two I could probably get better gas milage for the 4 barrel because of the smaller primary's anyway.Since I was going from a two barrel to a 4 I had to get a new intake.So I got a performer RPM.One of my buddies grinded the edelbrock off and painted it orange.It looks pretty factory.After I got the intake realized he didn't have a performer RPM.Plus that new intake was so shiney.So I get the truck apart.I have a brand new comps cam cam and lifters along with their couble roller timing chain set sitting in another motor that has never been fired.So I took that cam out and put it in the factory 307..(I had been told it was a 350)So anyway I get it all back togother and it wont run worth a darn.I thought it was the dang points distrubitor so when my buddy offered me a good HEI with an accel coil for 20 bucks I couldn't resist.So That went in.It ended up being I had installed the cam out of wack.(my first cam swap and listening to some not so smart people)So Now my truck had an intake,carb,cam,and an HEI.I also installed a sun supertach.I hose clamped it to the steering column making myself fell better about another modifcation by telling myself it was alright because they did that along time ago.For some reason this truck makes me feel like I am my dad.It is hard to explain.MY dad past away.And he always used to tell me stories about how he used to have hotrods when he was a kid.I wanted to get something that maybe he would have had.I knew one of his dreams truck was a 69 short bed 3/4ton 4wd.The closest thing I could find or afford was a 69 lwb c-10.Not exactly but oh well. Do I regret it?Heck no.Listening to that cam lope made my blood run.Being able to break them lose at 35mph was an awesome feeling.Guess what now I was biten by the speed bug.So I kept tuning it and tuning it.Till one day I was racing a new dodge truck and my clutch disk exploded.What to do now?Sure a new clutch was in order.Why not throw that 350 in the garage in it.Along with some headers.So a new lunati cam and lifters set along with a new double roller timing chain was installed.Some heads with bigger valves,a high volume oil pump,And a set of hedman headers.So the new 350 and clutch was installed.So now my truck didn't even have the original motor in it.Which I tottally intended on keeping it in there.(turns out it is a 307 the p/o told me it was a 350.) Anyway 4 days later the 350 spins a main bearing.The problem was though that 350 made that truck pretty fast.It would now get a third gear scratch at 55mph. Since then I have weighed my options.I am going to rebuilt this 350 fairly stock and keep the three on the tree.And work on the body keeping it semi original while still being mine.I instead going to get an s-10 and putt a 408 small block in it.Who cares if I make an s-10 not original. I didn't mean to write that much.opps! __________________ 69 c-10 lwb,Converted to 4x4,dana 44f,12blt,4 inch lift,vortec headed 355,th350/np203 34x10.50x15 swamper tsl's

08-27-2003, 07:12 PM	#48
treefrog Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Posts: 189	Stock vs Custom As the saying goes, opinions are like a viable bodily orifice everybody has one, so here's mine. Everything I've built has been stock, and mine's about to undergo a transformation. I will keep the stock appearance (pics to follow soon), but from there I'm going to dress it up a bit, but keep the stock body. That sets ours apart. So far mine has about everything on it except a DeSoto part anyway (soon to be incorporated because of principle), so go for what looks good to you. I won't agree that "stock sucks", but there is room for improvement in the original design. TFrog

08-27-2003, 09:23 PM	#49
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Sawzall!

08-27-2003, 09:36 PM	#50
GMC71k20 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: mass Posts: 1,277	i think the coolest thing going right now is the FADrags, these are cars that appear stock but have all hidden modifications. they even race them on poly-glas tires. i agree with CPNE on some accounts, if a truck is all intact, never been touched, rare, or highly optioned it should be kept stock. if you want to add your own touches to a truck find something thats borderline scrap pile. id rather see crappy custom trucks than junk trucks.

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