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Denny · 11-03-2003, 11:22 PM

I feel real sorry for that family, nothing worse then fire

casey · 11-03-2003, 11:49 PM

what a shame, glad the families ok

greenhorn male · 11-03-2003, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cdowns
well at least he had time to strip it b-4 it burned the mirrors all the trim the front end , rims,tires, markers lenses and signal light lenses all look to have been removed b-4 the fire

I had to work up in the Oakland hills after the Oakland, CA fire a few years back. Almost all the vehicles up there with aluminum wheels had there wheels melt to nothing. Aluminum emblems, trim, mirror arms would melt in a hot fire. In the hottest spots in the Oakland hills, even steel frames melted down. There was a section up there that I remembered that had white ashes. The San Diego fire was much bigger and hotter than the Oakland fire from what I hear. Look at the outer grill of that truck. The bottom is melted. FWIW

Martin64 · 11-04-2003, 12:39 AM

Channel 8 just aired a story about a guy up in Crest that lost his "classic Chevrolet pick-up" in the fire but I didn't see it because I was helping my son with his homework.

cdowns · 11-04-2003, 12:39 AM

stainless mirrors don't melt

junkyarddog1956 · 11-04-2003, 09:04 AM

That was a really nice looking truck .... mother nature has her way. As long as him and the family are fine , there is another truck out there . Wish him the best of luck as well as all the other people that have been devastated by that fire ..... jyd

junkyardjohn · 11-04-2003, 10:12 AM

CDOWNS--

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stainless mirrors don't melt

STAINLESS WONT MELT??? EVERYTHING HAS A MELTING POINT & THOSE NON-MELTING STAINLESS MIRRORS ARE HELD ON BY ALUMINUM ARMS.
I KNOW.... ,I KNOW..... JUST IN CASE THIS GUY DOESN'T FEEL BAD ENOUGH...... LETS ALL ACUSE HIM OF STRIPPING HIS TRUCK
(AS A RAGING FOREST FIRE APPROACHES HIS HOME & EVERYTHING HE OWNS) & INTENSIONALLY LETTING HIS TRUCK BURN TO THE GROUND. YEA THATS WHAT PROBABLY HAPPENED. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 10:59 AM

No those STAINLESS mirrors won't melt in a fire like that, neither would the base where they are attached to the truck, also where is the head to the mirrior, it should be laying next to it. And where are the steel belts from the tires????? Those won't melt in a fire like that especially since it did not get hot enough to melt the entire ALUMINIUM GRILL and ALUMINUM LICENSE PLATE. And yes I have seen several car fires, because I am a firefighter and had to go to several like this one. Even as hot as this vehicle got it still had the stainless trim and steel belts left!!!!

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 11:07 AM

Now in my last pic, Tell me what type of vehicle this was, and what type of rim it has on it. That fender was untouched and so was the rim this was the only thing left to identify this vehicle by the license plate was even melted off. Oh yeah, there was a person in this vehicle, can you find the passenger compartment????

junkyardjohn · 11-04-2003, 11:12 AM

YEP... AS THAT INFERNO WAS APROACHING, THAT GUY WAS PROBABLY FEVERISHLY REMOVING ALL THE VALUABLE PARTS HE COULD, SO HE COULD GET OVER ON HIS INSURANCE COMPANY FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS. I'LL BET THAT WAS EXZACKLY WHAT WAS GOING THRU HIS MIND. WHY I'LL BET HE LOOKED AT THAT FIRE & JUST SAW DOLLAR SIGNS.

YEP--- A CLEAR CUT CASE OF INSURANCE FRAUD IF I EVER SAW ONE.

WHY BY GOLLY... I WOULDN'Y BE SURPRISED TO FIND OUT HE SET THE FIRE

WHERES THE ROPE???

(sarcasm)

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 11:23 AM

Hey junkyard, If the inferno was approaching and everyone in this country new that is was uncontained, and people were warned in advance, then tell me something. Why in the he!! didn't they move the truck???? I bet it used to run didn't it??? If they were worried about things in the house why not load them up in the truck and leave????? HUH?

junkyardjohn · 11-04-2003, 11:36 AM

HE WAS PROBABLY TOO BUSY STRIPPING ALL THE VALUABLE PARTS OFF THAT TRUCK, AFTER ALL.... YOU KNOW WHAT A ONE TRACK MIND THOSE OLD TRUCK NUTS HAVE.

YOU'VE CONVINCED ME ALREADY.. I'M SURE THE GUY WAS AN INSURANCE FRAUD CRIMINAL. YOU'RE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR SO TO SPEAK. GET THE ROPE.

(sarcasm)

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 11:47 AM

I'm not accusing him of anything. It just seemed kinda odd to me about what I had mentioned.

junkyardjohn · 11-04-2003, 11:54 AM

WELL I'M CONVINCED THIS GUY IS AN INSURANCE FRAUD RIPPOFF ARTIST, A PYROMANIAC & AN ALL AROUND BAD BAD MAN & PROBABLY A CHILD MOLESTER TOO!!! QUICK!!! SOMEBODY GET A ROPE!!!

(sarcasm)

dion · 11-04-2003, 12:19 PM

when I bought my truck from him he had 3 other trucks, 2 Cheyenne Supers and one fully restored 69, Both of the Cheyennes are parked right outside of his house, the garage is about 100 feet away so if in fact they did have to flee I'm sure they took the truck closest.

He also had loads of new parts still in boxes, he was probably working on the truck, perhaps putting sport mirrors on, just a thought.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 12:24 PM

Yep dion, that could be a possibility!!!

BobbyK · 11-04-2003, 12:24 PM

My first reaction was "damn".

Then I saw the before pic.It actually took my breath away.

Damn shame!

At least the family and home were spared.

junkyardjohn · 11-04-2003, 12:26 PM

OH YEH -- THAT COULD BE -- MAYBE HE'S A NICE GUY AFTER ALL. AND TO THINK I PRESUMED THE WORST ABOUT THIS GUY THAT HAS BEEN THRU THIS HORRIBLE TRAJEDY, & I DON'T EVEN KNOW HIM?? (HANGING MY HEAD IN SHAME)

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BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 12:30 PM

Or maybe not, maybe he pulled the camper and put it in an old junky parts truck and dragged it into the garage, and drove off in the good one!!!!

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 11-04-2003, 12:32 PM

But seriously, that is a d@mn shame about that truck.

ckhd · 11-04-2003, 01:39 PM

Ok, anyone who thinks that was stripped pre-fire is either not paying attention, or is smoking some serious crack.

Look closer at the pic, I see front fender and bedside trim on the ground, and I also see a lot of misc stuff kicking around. It looks like they might have swept a path through there too.

Dion, do you have a bigger pic? I'll bet in a bigger pic, you would be able to find a lot of other pieces that are supposedly "removed".

Why aren't the mirrors attached? Because the ford arms have nylon inserts that the screws screw into. The nylon melted and the mirrors dropped, simple as that.

Also, the grille didn't get nearly as hot as the cab area. Why? In-cab gas tank and all that upholstery. Campers can burn pretty hot too. Notice that all the aluminum has melted off the camper.

It's obvious that the tires burned, and I know that aluminum and steel and any and all parts of tires can be burned/melted to nothing in a hot fire. Remember the Rodeo-Chedeski fire from my neighborhood a couple of years ago? I've seen it first hand. I've seen what was once a car be just a puddle of melted metals.

It is a shame about the pickup. It was a very nice looking pickup.

Hooter · 11-04-2003, 04:29 PM

man why couldn't he have moved it? Im gonna cry !!!

O'skool 72GMC · 11-04-2003, 04:51 PM

Hey Black and Blue,
I dont know where this guy lives but you can't compare some outside car fire to what was going on here. I was in Ramona and Descanso and and the world was ablaze. This half ass picture you've attached is no comparison to what was going on here last week. I had 5 mins to write this letter which is about the same amount of time people had to grab there things and get out of their house.

greenhorn male · 11-04-2003, 05:22 PM

Here's a brighter pic for all you CSI's

jugernot · 11-04-2003, 05:23 PM

Why are the good ones always taken from us?

11-03-2003, 11:22 PM	#26
Denny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cedar Hill, MO Posts: 426	I feel real sorry for that family, nothing worse then fire __________________ 1969 Chevy C10. Dakota Digital Gauges, 383 Votex Engine, MSD 8361 Distributor, MSD 6A Unit, Demon Carb, Phoenix Transmission 4L80E trans, 3:73 Posi Rear End Early Classics 6 Lug Disc Brakes and Spindles All Stainless Lines

11-04-2003, 12:39 AM	#29
Martin64 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yuma, Az Posts: 477	Channel 8 just aired a story about a guy up in Crest that lost his "classic Chevrolet pick-up" in the fire but I didn't see it because I was helping my son with his homework. __________________ Martin Gibson USAF Retired 1964(-ish) C10

11-04-2003, 12:39 AM	#30
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	stainless mirrors don't melt __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-04-2003, 10:59 AM	#33
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	No those STAINLESS mirrors won't melt in a fire like that, neither would the base where they are attached to the truck, also where is the head to the mirrior, it should be laying next to it. And where are the steel belts from the tires????? Those won't melt in a fire like that especially since it did not get hot enough to melt the entire ALUMINIUM GRILL and ALUMINUM LICENSE PLATE. And yes I have seen several car fires, because I am a firefighter and had to go to several like this one. Even as hot as this vehicle got it still had the stainless trim and steel belts left!!!! Attached Images __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA Last edited by BLACK AND BLUE 67-72; 11-04-2003 at 11:09 AM.

11-04-2003, 11:07 AM	#34
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Now in my last pic, Tell me what type of vehicle this was, and what type of rim it has on it. That fender was untouched and so was the rim this was the only thing left to identify this vehicle by the license plate was even melted off. Oh yeah, there was a person in this vehicle, can you find the passenger compartment???? __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

11-03-2003, 11:49 PM	#27
casey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 2,048	what a shame, glad the families ok

11-04-2003, 09:04 AM	#31
junkyarddog1956 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Thorntown , Indiana Posts: 231	That was a really nice looking truck .... mother nature has her way. As long as him and the family are fine , there is another truck out there . Wish him the best of luck as well as all the other people that have been devastated by that fire ..... jyd

11-04-2003, 11:12 AM	#35
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	YEP... AS THAT INFERNO WAS APROACHING, THAT GUY WAS PROBABLY FEVERISHLY REMOVING ALL THE VALUABLE PARTS HE COULD, SO HE COULD GET OVER ON HIS INSURANCE COMPANY FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS. I'LL BET THAT WAS EXZACKLY WHAT WAS GOING THRU HIS MIND. WHY I'LL BET HE LOOKED AT THAT FIRE & JUST SAW DOLLAR SIGNS. YEP--- A CLEAR CUT CASE OF INSURANCE FRAUD IF I EVER SAW ONE. WHY BY GOLLY... I WOULDN'Y BE SURPRISED TO FIND OUT HE SET THE FIRE WHERES THE ROPE??? (sarcasm) __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST Last edited by junkyardjohn; 11-04-2003 at 12:37 PM.

11-04-2003, 11:23 AM	#36
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Hey junkyard, If the inferno was approaching and everyone in this country new that is was uncontained, and people were warned in advance, then tell me something. Why in the he!! didn't they move the truck???? I bet it used to run didn't it??? If they were worried about things in the house why not load them up in the truck and leave????? HUH? __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

11-04-2003, 11:36 AM	#37
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	HE WAS PROBABLY TOO BUSY STRIPPING ALL THE VALUABLE PARTS OFF THAT TRUCK, AFTER ALL.... YOU KNOW WHAT A ONE TRACK MIND THOSE OLD TRUCK NUTS HAVE. YOU'VE CONVINCED ME ALREADY.. I'M SURE THE GUY WAS AN INSURANCE FRAUD CRIMINAL. YOU'RE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR SO TO SPEAK. GET THE ROPE. (sarcasm) __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST Last edited by junkyardjohn; 11-04-2003 at 12:36 PM.

11-04-2003, 11:47 AM	#38
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	I'm not accusing him of anything. It just seemed kinda odd to me about what I had mentioned. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

11-04-2003, 11:54 AM	#39
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	WELL I'M CONVINCED THIS GUY IS AN INSURANCE FRAUD RIPPOFF ARTIST, A PYROMANIAC & AN ALL AROUND BAD BAD MAN & PROBABLY A CHILD MOLESTER TOO!!! QUICK!!! SOMEBODY GET A ROPE!!! (sarcasm) __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST Last edited by junkyardjohn; 11-04-2003 at 12:35 PM.

11-04-2003, 12:19 PM	#40
dion 72 Cheyenne Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,086	c'mon people when I bought my truck from him he had 3 other trucks, 2 Cheyenne Supers and one fully restored 69, Both of the Cheyennes are parked right outside of his house, the garage is about 100 feet away so if in fact they did have to flee I'm sure they took the truck closest. He also had loads of new parts still in boxes, he was probably working on the truck, perhaps putting sport mirrors on, just a thought. __________________ Burnout Idle 1972Cheyenne 1966/67Stouts

11-04-2003, 12:24 PM	#41
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Yep dion, that could be a possibility!!! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

11-04-2003, 12:24 PM	#42
BobbyK Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,Mi. Posts: 1,772	My first reaction was "damn". Then I saw the before pic.It actually took my breath away. Damn shame! At least the family and home were spared. __________________ 71 blazer,350SBC,approx.375HP,700R4,factory GM TPI.Dual electric fans,33x12.5x15 ATR on stock suspension. Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,MI. See ALL my Blazer pic's HERE



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11-04-2003, 12:26 PM	#43
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	OH YEH -- THAT COULD BE -- MAYBE HE'S A NICE GUY AFTER ALL. AND TO THINK I PRESUMED THE WORST ABOUT THIS GUY THAT HAS BEEN THRU THIS HORRIBLE TRAJEDY, & I DON'T EVEN KNOW HIM?? (HANGING MY HEAD IN SHAME) ^ l l sacasm __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST Last edited by junkyardjohn; 11-04-2003 at 12:32 PM.

11-04-2003, 12:30 PM	#44
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Or maybe not, maybe he pulled the camper and put it in an old junky parts truck and dragged it into the garage, and drove off in the good one!!!! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

11-04-2003, 12:32 PM	#45
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	But seriously, that is a d@mn shame about that truck. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

11-04-2003, 01:39 PM	#46
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	Ok, anyone who thinks that was stripped pre-fire is either not paying attention, or is smoking some serious crack. Look closer at the pic, I see front fender and bedside trim on the ground, and I also see a lot of misc stuff kicking around. It looks like they might have swept a path through there too. Dion, do you have a bigger pic? I'll bet in a bigger pic, you would be able to find a lot of other pieces that are supposedly "removed". Why aren't the mirrors attached? Because the ford arms have nylon inserts that the screws screw into. The nylon melted and the mirrors dropped, simple as that. Also, the grille didn't get nearly as hot as the cab area. Why? In-cab gas tank and all that upholstery. Campers can burn pretty hot too. Notice that all the aluminum has melted off the camper. It's obvious that the tires burned, and I know that aluminum and steel and any and all parts of tires can be burned/melted to nothing in a hot fire. Remember the Rodeo-Chedeski fire from my neighborhood a couple of years ago? I've seen it first hand. I've seen what was once a car be just a puddle of melted metals. It is a shame about the pickup. It was a very nice looking pickup. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans?

11-04-2003, 04:29 PM	#47
Hooter My other Love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castlegar B.C. Canada Posts: 4,085	man why couldn't he have moved it? Im gonna cry !!! __________________ Castlegar B.C.The great white North (Canada Eh!) Hooter_5@hotmail.com First generation Monte Carlo club pictures of my life

11-04-2003, 04:51 PM	#48
O'skool 72GMC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 250	The picutre?? What the F@#$ Hey Black and Blue, I dont know where this guy lives but you can't compare some outside car fire to what was going on here. I was in Ramona and Descanso and and the world was ablaze. This half ass picture you've attached is no comparison to what was going on here last week. I had 5 mins to write this letter which is about the same amount of time people had to grab there things and get out of their house.

11-04-2003, 05:22 PM	#49
greenhorn male Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay Area, Northern California Posts: 1,344	Brighter pic Here's a brighter pic for all you CSI's

11-04-2003, 05:23 PM	#50
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	Why are the good ones always taken from us?

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