The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Suspension

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-05-2021, 01:40 AM   #26
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Saw this on Fakebook another way to snake around the top A arm.
Little hokey ish?
But the idea is solid
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2021, 10:35 AM   #27
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

That's what I mentioned previously in post #11. The 3rd joint & requisite bearing support anchor start making things busy. Some are absolutely necessary (tight R&P set-ups) but w/these trucks it's a straight shot between the column & box. I wanted mine to look clean & uncluttered.

Sectioning the area on the arm was the better option for my 'wants'.
Attached Images
  
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2021, 12:56 PM   #28
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Been on the hunt for a set of those. Upper and lowers.
Have a set of the lowers on my c10 I like the steel bushed pivot and slightly narrow at the pivots.

My son's tig skills are getting better
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "

Last edited by KQQL IT; 03-05-2021 at 01:03 PM. Reason: Pic
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2021, 02:31 PM   #29
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

Quote:
Originally Posted by KQQL IT View Post
Been on the hunt for a set of those. Upper and lowers.
Have a set of the lowers on my c10 I like the steel bushed pivot and slightly narrow at the pivots.

My son's tig skills are getting better
I like the earlier arms myself after trying poly bushings in the later arms & not liking their 'stiction' during rotation @ times. That stiction to me = inconsistency.

That weld work on the wrench is cool. He should keep that so he can reflect on it one day when you're no longer around to tell him how proud you are of him.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2021, 02:41 PM   #30
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTI View Post
I like the earlier arms myself after trying poly bushings in the later arms & not liking their 'stiction' during rotation @ times. That stiction to me = inconsistency.

That weld work on the wrench is cool. He should keep that so he can reflect on it one day when you're no longer around to tell him how proud you are of him.
Proud and amazed
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2021, 10:17 PM   #31
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

Quote:
Originally Posted by KQQL IT View Post
Proud and amazed
With good reason. Coloful!
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2021, 01:22 PM   #32
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

@scoti

Could you help identify these swap meet drop spindles?

The numbers don't cross reference to anything on the googler
Attached Images
    
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2021, 03:16 PM   #33
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

OBS spindles would be my bet.
Attached Images
 
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.

Last edited by SCOTI; 04-17-2021 at 03:39 PM.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2021, 03:23 PM   #34
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Suppose they're the light duty 1" rotor version?
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 05:21 PM   #35
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

This is surprising. Was planning on reaming up to squarebody ball joints

The ball joint is bigger on a obs than a squarebody.
But the tie rod diameter is smaller by a bunch
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 05:46 PM   #36
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

Quote:
Originally Posted by KQQL IT View Post
This is surprising. Was planning on reaming up to squarebody ball joints

The ball joint is bigger on a obs than a squarebody.
But the tie rod diameter is smaller by a bunch
Lower BJ for an OBS will fit into a C20 control arm but is larger than a C10 arm. Not sure of what the impact is on steering geometry.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2021, 08:03 PM   #37
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Was going to go with choppin block arms.
The obs spindle was my band aid for the sectioned crossmember for the bumpsteer they create.
Get some squarebody spindles and have the kid braze the tie rod ends shut and ream them from the other side..
Or a heim end kit.
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2021, 09:40 AM   #38
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

Quote:
Originally Posted by KQQL IT View Post
Was going to go with choppin block arms.
The obs spindle was my band aid for the sectioned crossmember for the bumpsteer they create.
Get some squarebody spindles and have the kid braze the tie rod ends shut and ream them from the other side..
Or a heim end kit.
You'd need C20 spec lowers to do the OBS spindle (or @ least the BJ hole needs to be C20/OBS dimensions).

Also.... OBS spindles came in an HD version as well. Lt. Duty= single cab trucks; HD = Ext cab & 454SS optioned single cab trucks.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2021, 01:51 PM   #39
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

According to my mics the c20 is bigger by a bit.
They where .950 on the lower joint taper
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2021, 04:47 PM   #40
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

I've only read info on the swap & haven't done one myself. I just recall the info about the use of C20 lower arms being required so it's possibly the housing size that's the same & not the BJ stud dimensions.

I've wanted to put calipers on one of each just for personal reference but haven't.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2021, 03:40 PM   #41
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

More of the good stuff.

Choppin block is kinda local so went to the shop Friday
1 inch narrow 1 inch forward
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2021, 06:10 PM   #42
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

Nice.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2021, 10:56 PM   #43
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Think I maybe solved my bumpsteer problem.
Nothing like machining new parts.
Void warranty in the 1st 30 seconds
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "

Last edited by KQQL IT; 04-30-2021 at 11:03 PM.
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2021, 07:05 PM   #44
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Mocking up stuff
Attached Images
  
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "

Last edited by KQQL IT; 05-02-2021 at 07:12 PM.
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2021, 10:24 PM   #45
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Spindles showed time to get this together

@scoti


Is there a recommendation for a bag and upper bag plate ?

See some are flat and recessed into the coil bucket
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2021, 12:10 AM   #46
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,064
Re: 2wd swap

With my arms shifted forward, I made my own upper plates.
Cardboard templates of the x-member transferred over to 3/16" plate. Mounted the bags to the lower arms & marked/traced out onto the plates to understand the center-line needed for them.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2021, 12:01 PM   #47
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

The ruffstuff insert was the wrong taper.
So a good friend made some new ones with a correct taper.
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2021, 12:13 AM   #48
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

Kid brazed in the new inserts my friend made for us.
Still going to need a bump steer kit I believe
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2021, 07:33 PM   #49
KQQL IT
At the body shop.
 
KQQL IT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Land of fruits and nuts.
Posts: 5,253
Re: 2wd swap

So...

I think we have beat the bumpsteer
Attached Images
 
__________________
" That didnt make it any newer "
" Dont antique the equipment "
KQQL IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2021, 01:07 PM   #50
tinydb84
Registered User
 
tinydb84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Jose Ca
Posts: 2,871
Re: 2wd swap

Looks good. Hard to tell from the angle though. You could always check it but cycling the suspension (especially since you dont have the spring in) and check to see how far it moves.
__________________
David
Used parts build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=638991
My brother's Nova: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=727985
Rear suspension rework: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=750557
Instagram: myfabguy
tinydb84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com