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sandfreek · 08-25-2009, 11:09 PM

Really nice job, hows the fitment between the factory stuff?? Ron

Alan's Classic · 08-25-2009, 11:46 PM

I noticed the middle body line is not in line with the cab and the bottom of the door is not flush with the rocker. It's hard to tell in the pics what is exactly going on.

198plus · 08-26-2009, 12:09 AM

Alan as we had discussed, I had noticed the body line on that side is a little off.

I think the bottom will be fine, the bottom hinge needs to be pushed in some.
But there again what do I know, that's not my department.

I'm just a Landscaper / Builder

Anyway what a deal I got 300 bucks and furnished material.

Thanks Alan for your valuable input

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

I noticed the middle body line is not in line with the cab and the bottom of the door is not flush with the rocker. It's hard to tell in the pics what is exactly going on.

4dranch · 08-26-2009, 07:31 AM

198 and Alan,
Doors look good. and I see where you guys are talking about the body line is off, but the lower body line looks to be okay.

Alan,
How do you fix one with out messing up the other one's alignment? just curious.

MacAttack · 08-26-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch

Alan, How do you fix one with out messing up the other one's alignment? just curious.

Mac.

Strodder · 08-26-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack

Mac.

I was going to say that too. BFH,

I would hammer out the seam to match the door, then skim coat. What do you think Allan?

4dranch · 08-26-2009, 11:22 AM

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Mac.

198plus · 08-26-2009, 09:47 PM

That's what I'm thinking

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Mac.

Alan's Classic · 08-26-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder

I was going to say that too. BFH,

I would hammer out the seam to match the door, then skim coat. What do you think Allan?

Might work on the cab corner body line. It's a shorter line to modify. Depending on how it lines up with the bed.

MacAttack · 08-27-2009, 10:18 AM

Remember guys - if you can't fix it with a beater, it's an electrical problem.

Strodder · 08-27-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Might work on the cab corner body line. It's a shorter line to modify. Depending on how it lines up with the bed.

The bed could be shimmed up or down that little bit?

1964C10 · 08-27-2009, 11:51 AM

I am a body work beginner and I have to say that looks like an incredibly hard problem. For the most part the door aligns ok, it just looks like a bad stamp job on the door at the factory. Looking forward to the experts weighing in on this one!

shrunken66stroker · 08-27-2009, 12:00 PM

Probably not a bad stamp, just fit a certain truck. I have a donor door on mine and the stamp is a little off too. It probably fit the original truck it was on perfectly. The chrome trim holes are off a little too, but probably fit the original fine. I think there were different measurements going on at different build plants back in the day. They got em close enough.

Strodder · 08-27-2009, 12:06 PM

In those days it was just a truck, and they were put together very crude. Like on my truck the seam above the windshield is much bigger on the right side than the left side, and the door gaps are really bad. As far as it looks like my truck is all original.

1964C10 · 08-27-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder

In those days it was just a truck, and they were put together very crude. Like on my truck the seam above the windshield is much bigger on the right side than the left side, and the door gaps are really bad. As far as it looks like my truck is all original.

Yeah that is my excuse for not making the body on my truck perfect like others on here. It has nothing to do with my inability

joe231 · 08-27-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack

Remember guys - if you can't fix it with a beater, it's an electrical problem.

quit stealing my sig quote

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Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker

Probably not a bad stamp, just fit a certain truck. I have a donor door on mine and the stamp is a little off too. It probably fit the original truck it was on perfectly. The chrome trim holes are off a little too, but probably fit the original fine. I think there were different measurements going on at different build plants back in the day. They got em close enough.

they had an allowable range for the fitment of the pieces and panels...if you look in the assembly manual it tells the tolerances....as strodder said, they were only trucks so the tolerances were fairly large

probably depended lot on the different assembly guys....we all know how that goes

4dranch · 08-27-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231

they had an allowable range for the fitment of the pieces and panels...if you look in the assembly manual it tells the tolerances....as strodder said, they were only trucks so the tolerances were fairly large

probably depended lot on the different assembly guys....we all know how that goes

I think I read somewhere that the gap all around the door is 5/32"
except the bottom, it has a 1/4" gap.....

MacAttack · 08-27-2009, 02:08 PM

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quit stealing my sig quote

Ooops! I knew I'd seen that somewhere.....

OLDIRON69 · 08-27-2009, 04:02 PM

great job Allen! Read the whole thing thru..at $17.75 an hr......shhhhh!

shrunken66stroker · 08-27-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch

I think I read somewhere that the gap all around the door is 5/32"
except the bottom, it has a 1/4" gap.....

These measurements are correct except if your truck was built on Friday afternoon.

joe231 · 08-27-2009, 10:18 PM

Or Monday morning......

198plus · 08-27-2009, 10:51 PM

I took my old 12 bolt rear end out tonight....411 gears and replaced it with another 12 bolt rear end I had with 373 gears and swapped out the trailing arms while I was at it.

I'm getting to old to be doing this crap by myself

4dranch · 08-27-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 198plus

I took my old 12 bolt rear end out tonight....411 gears and replaced it with another 12 bolt rear end I had with 373 gears and swapped out the trailing arms while I was at it.

I'm getting to old to be doing this crap by myself

Wait till you get old...

padresag · 08-27-2009, 11:44 PM

what is old?
ron

198plus · 08-27-2009, 11:52 PM

Hell I'm 52....My brain thinks it's in the twenty's, but my body feels like it's 80

08-25-2009, 11:09 PM	#476
sandfreek Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orange,Ca. Posts: 57	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Really nice job, hows the fitment between the factory stuff?? Ron

08-25-2009, 11:46 PM	#477
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic I noticed the middle body line is not in line with the cab and the bottom of the door is not flush with the rocker. It's hard to tell in the pics what is exactly going on. Attached Images __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"

08-26-2009, 07:31 AM	#479
4dranch Shloooooong bed member #2 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Millington Tn. Posts: 1,864	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic 198 and Alan, Doors look good. and I see where you guys are talking about the body line is off, but the lower body line looks to be okay. Alan, How do you fix one with out messing up the other one's alignment? just curious. Attached Images __________________ *David,* Daughters 66 truck: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=484601 Learning to drive a 3 on the tree: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCMvRgBo1Q

08-27-2009, 10:18 AM	#485
MacAttack 283 Drama Queen Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Surf City, CA Posts: 2,435	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Remember guys - if you can't fix it with a beater, it's an electrical problem. __________________ For about 12 years of my adult life I had a severe speech impediment. My ex-wife never let me get a word in edgewise.

08-27-2009, 11:51 AM	#487
1964C10 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 578	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic I am a body work beginner and I have to say that looks like an incredibly hard problem. For the most part the door aligns ok, it just looks like a bad stamp job on the door at the factory. Looking forward to the experts weighing in on this one! __________________ 1964 Fleetside LWB 1995 Yellow Mustang convertible 1996 Camaro Z28 My build thread Looking for help on completing the Disc Brake Upgrade Reference Thread If you didn't build it, you don't really own it

08-27-2009, 12:00 PM	#488
shrunken66stroker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 954	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Probably not a bad stamp, just fit a certain truck. I have a donor door on mine and the stamp is a little off too. It probably fit the original truck it was on perfectly. The chrome trim holes are off a little too, but probably fit the original fine. I think there were different measurements going on at different build plants back in the day. They got em close enough. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...54#post3194654

08-27-2009, 12:06 PM	#489
Strodder Daring to be Different Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 4,499	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic In those days it was just a truck, and they were put together very crude. Like on my truck the seam above the windshield is much bigger on the right side than the left side, and the door gaps are really bad. As far as it looks like my truck is all original. __________________ *Dennis* Check out my 65/73 Cheap Build Thread. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=327644 *KUSTOM RIDES* FACE BOOK PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/291198124258863/ 1965 C-10 Short Bed 350/700r4 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2016 Honda Accord w/ 18" rims 2007 Honda Goldwing Trike w/ NAVI 2001 Yamaha Roadstar Indian look alike "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...WOW!...what an amazing ride!" Live Life Passionately!!! [/COLOR] *I AM WE TODD IT, I AM SOFA KING WE TODD IT*

08-27-2009, 04:02 PM	#494
OLDIRON69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ben Wheeler,Texas Posts: 992	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic great job Allen! Read the whole thing thru..at $17.75 an hr......shhhhh! __________________ 05 2500HD 6.0 excab 69 LWB-Gone but not forgotten! 68 Dodge Charger 383/727 69 Dodge Charger-440/4spd Last edited by OLDIRON69; 08-27-2009 at 04:02 PM.

08-27-2009, 10:18 PM	#496
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Or Monday morning...... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

08-27-2009, 10:51 PM	#497
198plus Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Loganville, Ga. Posts: 1,408	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic I took my old 12 bolt rear end out tonight....411 gears and replaced it with another 12 bolt rear end I had with 373 gears and swapped out the trailing arms while I was at it. I'm getting to old to be doing this crap by myself

08-27-2009, 11:44 PM	#499
padresag Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sidney,b.c. Posts: 4,425	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic what is old? ron

08-27-2009, 11:52 PM	#500
198plus Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Loganville, Ga. Posts: 1,408	Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic Hell I'm 52....My brain thinks it's in the twenty's, but my body feels like it's 80



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