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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
Today I felt like working on small stuff like torque converter bolts and cotter pinning all the steering castle nuts. During the process I found an issue that needed attention. Namely, when the steering sector was turned all the way right, the idler arm hit the sway bar before the steering arm stop made contact. Not a good thing. I knew when I disassembled the front end for cleanup and paint, the steering arms didn't appear to be a matched set. I just didn't realize how different they were. On the driver side, the stop cast into the rear of the steering arm is at an acute angle which causes it to contact the pedestal on the A-arm correctly. However, on the passenger side, the stop extends straight back instead of angling inward. This allowed the wheels to turn much more to the right than they would to the left. The unwanted side effect was to cause the idler arm to contact the sway bar. The fix was to weld a small spacer to the stop. It now contacts the A-arm pedestal properly and the wheels track right and left equally.
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12-02-2013, 11:25 AM | #2 |
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Nice stuff!
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Very clean work Victor! That exhaust looks great
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12-02-2013, 06:17 PM | #4 |
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Thanks, Mike. The AEM A/F gauges arrived around lunch today, so I was able to weld in the O2 sensor bungs and tidy up the tubes with some ceramic high heat paint. Soon as it dries completely, I can install them and be done with exhaust until it comes time to wire everything in.
Still waiting on the firewall and etc. from Eagle. They were closed for the holidays, which I think is great. Since I had a little time on my hands, here's a sneak peek at what's coming soon.
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Anxiously await this!
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The build threads that describe how to do this generally leave everything assembled while removing the unwanted sections. Then shove the pieces together and use a screwdriver to work the body lines together while tacking it all in place. I don't have the manpower for that approach, plus I think I can do a better job of finessing the body lines by working the panels individually. As soon as the firewall comes back from the metal blaster, I plan to finish up the floor and f/w on the cab, then it will be time to saw up the bed.
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The paint looks really good on the pipes. I assume it hardens with heat?
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My past experience with the paint is that it does get a bit harder after some heat/cool cycles, but you need several coats as it tends to disappear off the areas of highest heat. The ceramic stuff lasts a bit longer than the high heat, but no paint I've found works as good as coatings like Jet Hot. I used stainless steel tubing, etc. on the silver truck, but even though it doesn't rust, it will still discolor.
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12-03-2013, 09:14 AM | #10 |
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Hee Hee Hee... Wanna have a tack weld party this weekend, Vic? The bed floors are nice and thick, no problem. This is gonna be good!
John's sittin' over there with his ears pricked up like one of them Meerkats. lessons from the Master await!
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Nope, but hold that thought ...it will happen soon enough!
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Awfully quite over here Vic. I'm off tomorrow, if you need a hand let me know.
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Thanks, Scott, I've been out of pocket for a few days working on another project. I finished up the exhaust and got it all assembled, then set to work on the center caps for the wheels. When the wheels come back from the blaster, I need to shoot the clearcoat on them and I'd like to do the caps at the same time. One of the machining processes required the services of a CNC shop, so I just finished up putting a slight dome on the centers and now I just need to machine the flats to make the shape of a hex nut. I appreciate the offer of help. You and Chip and Brian have all been very supportive. I'll be abusing all of you soon enough.
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Those center caps are going to be cool! So the CNC bit - are you doing a logo or something on them?
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12-06-2013, 06:44 PM | #16 |
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No, I just wanted a 15.5" radius dome on the top and shoulder of the cap so they wouldn't be flat. Also when I mill the flats, there will be thin little half moon areas where the material is removed which should be an interesting feature. Logo isn't a bad idea, though. Might be cool to etch them instead of CNC. I'll have to think about it.
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12-06-2013, 08:40 AM | #17 |
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Love the quality of this build!
Just a question,... why you are running drum brakes up front?
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Simply a matter of economics. When I acquired the truck, it had a decent set of six lug wheels as well as new drums and shoes. To convert to five lug and purchase a new tire/wheel package would be expensive. At the start, I wanted to get the truck on the road with a minimum cash outlay, but it's morphed into more of a money pit than I'd planned. So five lug discs and a new rolling stock will have to wait a while. I picked up a nice used power booster to help the drums do their job and I'm rarely in a situation where drum brake fade is an issue. Maybe later...
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Why not a 6-lug conversion for the front with the same rolling stock?
You can use Auto parts 71-87 HD calipers and bearings and even stock 5-lug spindles. I would just spend $229 on a set of 63-70 conversion spindles. And then use aftermarket 6-lug rotors.
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Thanks for the info, never considered doing a disc swap and keeping the six lugs. I definitely need to read your disc brake conversion thread.
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They are just blank 5-lug rotors that have been drilled to the 6-lug pattern. Piece of cake swap. I have ECE rotors on my '69,...
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I'll have some stock 1 1/4 disc spindles to donate soon, hopefully!
Anytime you need anything, (or just need beer-slurping comedy relief) don't hesitate to call, Vic. I'd be honored to help.
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Conversion spindles would keep you from having to change ball joints or tie rods.
Definitely worth the money.
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Vic, I was actually going back through your build thread trying to find some motivation. I have actually started working on my doors first before i start welding on the cab.. I figure if i mess up a door so bad it is unuseable then i can get another fiarly easy. This is probably better to start with. I am going to be putting the inner lowers on atleast the first door and probably both but I had a question for you.
In this picture I was curious how you manage the fold over from the outside side of the door.. I cant really tell from the picture. It looks like you actually cut out the fold over. Can you point me in the right directions on this so I know how to cut mine out and also add the new patch panel.
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I've never had any luck straightening out the factory clamshell lip that holds the doorskin to the inner panel. They make tools (cheap and expensive) that are supposed to be the hot tip, but I've never found one that truly works. Every time I've tried to work the lip back up to a 90 like you get on a new doorskin, I end up damaging the edge and making more work for myself than it's worth. Anytime you bend metal, it work hardens. Just take a piece of scrap, put a 90 degree bend in it and then try to flatten it back out. You have to beat it into submission.
So the approach I use is to take a cutoff wheel and remove all but about a quarter of an inch of the folded over lip. Cut all the way thru the lip and the inner panel structure, but not thru the outer skin. Remove the lower part of the inner door panel you're going to replace to give you better access. Then carefully pry up a corner to expose the trapped strip of sheet metal left behind. I grab it tight with a pair of vise grips, then start tapping the grips with a small brass hammer to work the strip out of the recess. It will take several attempts to remove the entire strip and I usually reset the grips every few inches. Once it's out, I use a thin cutoff wheel in my Dremel tool to gently clean out the rust and debris from the groove. You end up with a small recess around the perimeter of the door that, from the outside, doesn't look like it was ever disturbed. On the backside, I then trim the replacement panel to slip into what is left of the recess. Once the rest of the panel is fitted into place, I tack weld the lip to the replacement panel every few inches and then use seam sealer to finish up. Welding it solid may warp the skin, so I try to avoid that.
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