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**scotts62** · 12-15-2009, 06:48 PM

Whats the next plans for it John?

JohnC · 12-15-2009, 06:51 PM

I'm taking the engine out to my uncle's shop tomorrow. The truck is already there. My uncle has been helping me clear out some of the unneeded wiring. So we will try and get the motor and tranny in it, then it will prob sit for a bit until I can generate some more funds to finish it out, i.e. alum radiator, air cleaner, and all the other little stuff.

**scotts62** · 12-15-2009, 06:54 PM

Thats cool, yeah, the "little" stuff adds up too...
Mine is, well let me refraise that, All of mine are at a standstill at the moment and will be for a bit.

JohnC · 12-15-2009, 06:56 PM

Yeah I know the feeling. It's a terrible feeling too.

**scotts62** · 12-15-2009, 06:57 PM

Yeah, oh well it will pick up..

JohnC · 12-15-2009, 07:04 PM

Yeah I'm not in any real hurry, well just to get Travis off my back.

Once I get the motor and tranny in it at least I can enjoy it as I'm working on it. That has been the hardest part of not having the funds to do it quickly. Just seeing it sitting there is tough. Hopefully after Christmas though I'll be able to get the engine and stuff all squared away. Then it's just on to the next thing on the list!

Jonboy · 12-15-2009, 07:15 PM

John, while you are there you might want to paint the firewall. I am a fan of black, because it matches everything. Just a thought before you set the engine in.

**scotts62** · 12-16-2009, 12:06 AM

Yeah i hear you there John..

There is stuff i can do to mine that wont cost me much its just the time of getting out there and doing it..

*highperf4x4* · 12-16-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC

Yeah I'm not in any real hurry, well just to get Travis off my back.

What I do?

menace121978 · 12-16-2009, 01:39 AM

progress is progress buddy... even if you just go out and stare at her for awhile thinking and planning!! take your time and save to buy the parts you want! (btw, i am taking my own advice right now

) actually its my better halfs advice and it went more like "YOUR DONE!!"

*highperf4x4* · 12-16-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menace121978

progress is progress buddy... even if you just go out and stare at her for awhile thinking and planning!! take your time and save to buy the parts you want! (btw, i am taking my own advice right now

) actually its my better halfs advice and it went more like "YOUR DONE!!"

JohnC · 12-17-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonboy

John, while you are there you might want to paint the firewall. I am a fan of black, because it matches everything. Just a thought before you set the engine in.

I painted my engine bay after I took the old engine out. So it's all painted and ready.

Quote:

Originally Posted by menace121978

progress is progress buddy... even if you just go out and stare at her for awhile thinking and planning!! take your time and save to buy the parts you want! (btw, i am taking my own advice right now

) actually its my better halfs advice and it went more like "YOUR DONE!!"

I hear ya there. Holly asked last night what all I still had to do to get the truck back running. After about the third or fourth big thing she kind of got that glazed look on her face.

I got the engine and tranny in yesterday. Didn't get any pics, no surprise there!

Did a little fabrication to the driver's side motor mount to make the headers that my uncle had work. So that's a little savings there. Now it's back to waiting on $$

joe231 · 12-17-2009, 02:49 PM

Get a rope!!!

JohnC · 12-17-2009, 04:24 PM

Yeah I'm at a crossroads now. Trying to decide what accessory brackets and such I want to go with. I want to swap the A/C and alternator to make a cleaner look. Unfortunately all the setups to do that aren't cheap. Then just about all of them are aluminum, and then if you do that you might as well get a nice alternator, and A/C compressor, and power steering pump. It's starting to snowball, and I don't have the funds for it to snowball.

My uncle used a set of Alan Grove brackets on his to swap the two, but they swing the two outward more than I would like. Here is a pic off their website.

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I really like the March Systems, but

My cousin keeps trying to get me to do it, I just keep telling him I would need a bigger raise!

I may go back stock for now, but I would have to buy brackets to do that too. The ones that were on my truck were a cheap chrome plated setup.

joe231 · 12-17-2009, 06:36 PM

Why not go with a stock serpentine set up?
Think they are fairly cheap at pull a part......

menace121978 · 12-17-2009, 08:08 PM

^^ i was thinking the same thing. get everything... all accesories, brackets and bolts. DONT FORGET THE BOLTS! they are torx head bolts if i remember right. quote from pick in pull was $150 for EVERYTHING. alt, p.s, a/c and all. just dont forget you will need the reverse flow water pump. and there are plenty to choose from. i think theres an awesome FAQ thread about this. something to look into and save a few bucks but still have a sweet setup.

joe231 · 12-17-2009, 08:51 PM

also if you get the parts separately you will probably get them cheaper......and at our pull a part they couldn't care less about the hardware....we could have a little pull a part get together and pay for all the stuff separate. speaking of, i need to pick up the drivers side bracket myself......

Dennis, I think you meant that your WILL need the reverse rotation water pump, right?

Jonboy · 12-17-2009, 09:06 PM

Fix it up just like that engine, TPI and all. Be tough

The serp setup should work off of anything with a V8 or a 4.3 L. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

*highperf4x4* · 12-17-2009, 10:21 PM

Yeah John, everything on the front of my engine came off the 4.3 that was in the truck when I got it? My engine is a gen1 from a 1976 pickup I used to have.

You see those 2 bottom bracket bolts on either side of the timing cover? Very Important.

look at that........... pics........

**scotts62** · 12-17-2009, 10:42 PM

Thats cool, im about to have a scattered 4.3 if you want to help me pick up the parts

joe231 · 12-17-2009, 10:52 PM

What's up with the 4.3 Scott?

*highperf4x4* · 12-17-2009, 11:34 PM

Does that mean you're offering to give the serpentine system to Johnathon?

So what's the deal with it anyway?

**scotts62** · 12-18-2009, 12:06 AM

She's in very bad shape, ive been just driving and kinda neglected it for a while now since that asshat pulled out in front of me, something is shaking pretty good like a grinding sound and feel through the pedal... Changed intake gasket the other day and the drive gear on distributor is worn out badly. Man i need a transmission for the other truck bad

joe231 · 12-18-2009, 12:11 AM

I think you have plenty of transmissions, you might want to focus you attention on a "good" transmission

guess you could sell the white one to fund the other 2......

**scotts62** · 12-18-2009, 12:22 AM

No dont think it will bring chit like it is.. yeah going to order the rebuild kit pretty soon and see how that goes and if that goes well im going to put new clutches in yours.

ps, sorry John..

move to crewcab build

12-15-2009, 06:48 PM	#476
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project Whats the next plans for it John? __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

12-15-2009, 06:51 PM	#477
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: John's Project I'm taking the engine out to my uncle's shop tomorrow. The truck is already there. My uncle has been helping me clear out some of the unneeded wiring. So we will try and get the motor and tranny in it, then it will prob sit for a bit until I can generate some more funds to finish it out, i.e. alum radiator, air cleaner, and all the other little stuff.

12-15-2009, 06:54 PM	#478
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project Thats cool, yeah, the "little" stuff adds up too... Mine is, well let me refraise that, All of mine are at a standstill at the moment and will be for a bit. __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

12-15-2009, 06:56 PM	#479
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: John's Project Yeah I know the feeling. It's a terrible feeling too.

12-15-2009, 06:57 PM	#480
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project Yeah, oh well it will pick up.. __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

12-15-2009, 07:04 PM	#481
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: John's Project Yeah I'm not in any real hurry, well just to get Travis off my back. Once I get the motor and tranny in it at least I can enjoy it as I'm working on it. That has been the hardest part of not having the funds to do it quickly. Just seeing it sitting there is tough. Hopefully after Christmas though I'll be able to get the engine and stuff all squared away. Then it's just on to the next thing on the list!

12-15-2009, 07:15 PM	#482
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: John's Project John, while you are there you might want to paint the firewall. I am a fan of black, because it matches everything. Just a thought before you set the engine in.

12-16-2009, 12:06 AM	#483
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project Yeah i hear you there John.. There is stuff i can do to mine that wont cost me much its just the time of getting out there and doing it.. __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

12-16-2009, 01:39 AM	#485
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: John's Project progress is progress buddy... even if you just go out and stare at her for awhile thinking and planning!! take your time and save to buy the parts you want! (btw, i am taking my own advice right now) actually its my better halfs advice and it went more like "YOUR DONE!!" __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list Last edited by menace121978; 12-16-2009 at 01:39 AM.

12-17-2009, 02:49 PM	#488
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: John's Project Get a rope!!! __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#489
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: John's Project Yeah I'm at a crossroads now. Trying to decide what accessory brackets and such I want to go with. I want to swap the A/C and alternator to make a cleaner look. Unfortunately all the setups to do that aren't cheap. Then just about all of them are aluminum, and then if you do that you might as well get a nice alternator, and A/C compressor, and power steering pump. It's starting to snowball, and I don't have the funds for it to snowball. My uncle used a set of Alan Grove brackets on his to swap the two, but they swing the two outward more than I would like. Here is a pic off their website. I really like the March Systems, but My cousin keeps trying to get me to do it, I just keep telling him I would need a bigger raise! I may go back stock for now, but I would have to buy brackets to do that too. The ones that were on my truck were a cheap chrome plated setup.

12-17-2009, 06:36 PM	#490
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: John's Project Why not go with a stock serpentine set up? Think they are fairly cheap at pull a part...... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-17-2009, 08:08 PM	#491
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: John's Project ^^ i was thinking the same thing. get everything... all accesories, brackets and bolts. DONT FORGET THE BOLTS! they are torx head bolts if i remember right. quote from pick in pull was $150 for EVERYTHING. alt, p.s, a/c and all. just dont forget you will need the reverse flow water pump. and there are plenty to choose from. i think theres an awesome FAQ thread about this. something to look into and save a few bucks but still have a sweet setup. __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list Last edited by menace121978; 12-18-2009 at 09:07 AM.

12-17-2009, 08:51 PM	#492
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: John's Project also if you get the parts separately you will probably get them cheaper......and at our pull a part they couldn't care less about the hardware....we could have a little pull a part get together and pay for all the stuff separate. speaking of, i need to pick up the drivers side bracket myself...... Dennis, I think you meant that your WILL need the reverse rotation water pump, right? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 12-17-2009 at 08:53 PM.

12-17-2009, 09:06 PM	#493
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: John's Project Fix it up just like that engine, TPI and all. Be tough The serp setup should work off of anything with a V8 or a 4.3 L. Shouldn't be too hard to find. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241



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12-17-2009, 10:21 PM	#494
highperf4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 4,709	Re: John's Project Yeah John, everything on the front of my engine came off the 4.3 that was in the truck when I got it? My engine is a gen1 from a 1976 pickup I used to have. You see those 2 bottom bracket bolts on either side of the timing cover? Very Important. look at that........... pics........ Last edited by highperf4x4; 12-17-2009 at 10:24 PM.

12-17-2009, 10:42 PM	#495
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project Thats cool, im about to have a scattered 4.3 if you want to help me pick up the parts __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

12-17-2009, 10:52 PM	#496
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: John's Project What's up with the 4.3 Scott? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-17-2009, 11:34 PM	#497
highperf4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 4,709	Re: John's Project Does that mean you're offering to give the serpentine system to Johnathon? So what's the deal with it anyway?

12-18-2009, 12:06 AM	#498
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project She's in very bad shape, ive been just driving and kinda neglected it for a while now since that asshat pulled out in front of me, something is shaking pretty good like a grinding sound and feel through the pedal... Changed intake gasket the other day and the drive gear on distributor is worn out badly. Man i need a transmission for the other truck bad __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

12-18-2009, 12:11 AM	#499
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: John's Project I think you have plenty of transmissions, you might want to focus you attention on a "good" transmission guess you could sell the white one to fund the other 2...... __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-18-2009, 12:22 AM	#500
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: John's Project No dont think it will bring chit like it is.. yeah going to order the rebuild kit pretty soon and see how that goes and if that goes well im going to put new clutches in yours. ps, sorry John.. move to crewcab build __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

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