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lofly'a · 10-14-2004, 09:44 PM

TTT - i keep reading this post and learning

ChevyCruizer · 10-14-2004, 10:00 PM

it took a long time to read but i have went through this entire thread. awesome source for information. i am just in the start of my project. for sure, i have learned who not to deal with. my 68 is my first old truck and i may be a little slow but i can not figure out what a pinch weld is. any help?

phanton - don't sell it that thing is sweet.

lofly'a · 10-14-2004, 10:08 PM

i have no desire to lay frame. i can't imagine the thought of losing pressure at speed. it looks cool but "DANGEROUS AS HELL IN MY OPINION". i'll be content if i can bottom out out 3" above the pavement.

smbrouss70 · 10-14-2004, 10:10 PM

The pinch weld that they are referring to is located on the bottom side of the rocker panels where 2 pieces of metal are "pinched" together, and then spot "welded"

BK · 10-20-2004, 03:46 PM

I was wondering if anyone that is layin frame on stock trailing arm can post pics or e-mail at fathead_03@hotmail.com I desire to do this, and am just curious as to how they are all designed. Also, how much room behind the front seats is there with a big notch, enough to fit another set of seats??? And up front, with the crossmember notch, could i Z my frame instead, i was thinking 2". Has anyone done this, and if so, what problems did you encounter? I want to use stock steering box(no rack and pinion) and i think the only problem will be ill have to put another joint or 2 in the steering linkage to clear the upper control arm. Thanks. OH, and last, is there anyone in or around washington/oregon that has done the crossmember notch? I would love to take a look, and also maybe even have you notch mine

BK · 11-02-2004, 02:45 AM

Well, ive been contimplating this crossmember drop, as well as z-ing my frame. I picked myself up a late 70's early 80's chevy frame with the full front suspension and whatnot. I was wondering, will the crossmember from it bolt up to my frame, so should i just take the whole front suspension off of it, notch that crossmember, then mount it up to my frame? ALso, i wanted to z the frame, and was wondering, as i want to z the frame 2", should i only go 1" on a crossmember drop, or should i go 2 & 2, or what should i do to get a fair amount of drop while not having to put 30 u-joints in my steering shaft. Thanks. Oh, also, anyone here in washington or souther BC wanna do my crossmember notch??? Thanks.

fastbagged68 · 11-02-2004, 03:10 AM

Do a 1.25" crossmember drop then see where you framesits and go from there. I personaly would not z your frame. Cut your Air bags mount as short as you can and cut up the crossmember to clear your bags and your panel will sit down on the ground. What size tire you running on the front? Also where your trailing arms mount to the crossmember on the rear you will need to take out your rivets and the peice of 1/8" plate that is there. If you want to lay true frame.

sixty8c10 · 11-14-2004, 02:59 PM

keep this thread going lots of info here

phantom dually · 11-25-2004, 01:42 AM

Anyone have a interest in all my moded crossmember parts??

FuelCellGuy · 11-25-2004, 09:42 AM

I don't understand, are you wanting to sell the crossmember?? If so, how much??

phantom dually · 11-25-2004, 12:51 PM

I am seriously contemplating selling everything I have. I dont have time to work on this project as my prioritys have changed.

71'tahoe · 11-25-2004, 08:52 PM

phantom, ive been reading this post from the begining.I really think that if you sell your parts your truck will never be completed.I think that some off the guys on the site are right,maybe step back,take a breather,and start on it in the new year.I know what its like to be building a new home and not enough time for the truck,as im also doing a couple trucks.I have stepped back for acouple months.Im now back on the site and on this thread first.To be honest and not get to soft on you guys is this thread that got me back in the game.I live for the under construction pics.So phantom dont give up and dont make me come down there and help finish that truck,cause im only an hour or so away.

Chris~GS · 11-26-2004, 01:27 PM

turners website doesn't work, he IS still in business though right? does anyone have a phone number so i can get a catalog perhaps?

phantom dually · 11-26-2004, 01:39 PM

Please dont waste your time on Turners!! Even though all the parts I got from him bolt up correct and will work great the experience with him has been a nightmare. Not sure if he is even still in bussiness. Air ride makes a set of a arms now for around $700 and a board member here can make you a modded member for around $400. If you decide to use Turner BEWARE!!

fastbagged68 · 11-26-2004, 01:50 PM

Catalog from turners......sh!T. That guy is a crook. His shop consist of walmart tarps and dirt. If you look in Street Trucks Mag you will see his ads and all those pics are taken @ his shop. His shop is a dive. What parts you need let me know. I have bought alot from this guys and can let you know what works and what doesn't.If you did get his number you wouldn't get through. he never answers his phone and his mail box is alway full.

slammd72 · 11-28-2004, 10:00 PM

one of my buddies had on of the first issues of "Truck Builder" and they were starting a "Project 67". they were tackling the front and rear suspension first. they had an awesome replacement crossmember, control arms, bags, and shocks set-up. does anyone know who makes this (or if youve seen it)? id like to see if that would work on all 67-87 1/2 ton frames. any info would help.

P.S. i live off those build pics and will be posting some of my own very soon. so keep em coming!!!

98L150 · 11-28-2004, 10:56 PM

Jim Myers Racing has a mustang 2 crossmember suspension that bolts on these trucks and works very good. We have one on a 67 truck at the shop that is using shockwaves. I do not have them on a website so this web site won't let me post them. If some one can help me with posting them to the web I will gladly post them.

grnddwn · 11-30-2004, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammd72

one of my buddies had on of the first issues of "Truck Builder" and they were starting a "Project 67". they were tackling the front and rear suspension first. they had an awesome replacement crossmember, control arms, bags, and shocks set-up. does anyone know who makes this (or if youve seen it)? id like to see if that would work on all 67-87 1/2 ton frames. any info would help.

P.S. i live off those build pics and will be posting some of my own very soon. so keep em coming!!!

The one in truck builder was a Scott's one. We (Macgyvers) make a bolt in MII one too but I prefer to use a dropped stock one on the trucks we are building.

SCOTI · 11-30-2004, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grnddwn

The one in truck builder was a Scott's one. We (Macgyvers) make a bolt in MII one too but I prefer to use a dropped stock one on the trucks we are building.

What reasons motivate your preference?

grnddwn · 11-30-2004, 04:05 PM

I like the Chevy parts and the MII crossmember wasn't designed to lay the truck on the ground. Its not that they don't work just fine. I just tend to sell people more on the dropped Chev. The MII does provide you with a better turning radius. The control arms aren't as wide. I think the factory one looks better. Maybe I'm just wierd. Its what i'm used to using

slammd72 · 11-30-2004, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grnddwn

The one in truck builder was a Scott's one. We (Macgyvers) make a bolt in MII one too but I prefer to use a dropped stock one on the trucks we are building.

now are all the crossmembers universal from 67-72 to 73-87 1/2tons or no?

**Captkaos** · 11-30-2004, 08:55 PM

Yes, the 73-87 will work under a 67-72.

**N2TRUX** · 12-01-2004, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98L150

Jim Myers Racing has a mustang 2 crossmember suspension that bolts on these trucks and works very good. We have one on a 67 truck at the shop that is using shockwaves. I do not have them on a website so this web site won't let me post them. If some one can help me with posting them to the web I will gladly post them.

Jeff are they the ones you sent me of Steves blue truck?.....

BaggedC10 · 12-01-2004, 01:21 AM

That's a nice setup! Does anyone have a link as to where I can purchase this front-end? Thanks.

**N2TRUX** · 12-01-2004, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaggedC10

That's a nice setup! Does anyone have a link as to where I can purchase this front-end? Thanks.

Sure can... http://www.jimmeyerracing.com/pu6.html

10-14-2004, 09:44 PM	#501
lofly'a Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Alexandria, LA 71301 Posts: 1,451	TTT - i keep reading this post and learning __________________ -02 avalanche (daily driver) -66 gto ragtop 389/400 (garage queen, hand-me-down from dad) -72 Tribute Trans Am (6.0LS/T56 6-speed) in progress -2003 YUKON (Wife's) -71 gmc swb fleet (current project, gonna shave everything, bags, stuff w/ 20's, gen III powertrain) -48 3100 SWB - 12/31/23 LONG TERM Project

10-14-2004, 10:00 PM	#502
ChevyCruizer 17's too small Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 335	it took a long time to read but i have went through this entire thread. awesome source for information. i am just in the start of my project. for sure, i have learned who not to deal with. my 68 is my first old truck and i may be a little slow but i can not figure out what a pinch weld is. any help? phanton - don't sell it that thing is sweet. __________________ 68 C10 SWB SS 5 lug power disc brake conversion 2.5 inch drop spindles van tilt column Air Ride Technologies Cool Ride air bag kits Performance Online tubular upper control arms and shock relocator kits ECE super track panhard bar 1 piece side windows

10-14-2004, 10:08 PM	#503
lofly'a Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Alexandria, LA 71301 Posts: 1,451	i have no desire to lay frame. i can't imagine the thought of losing pressure at speed. it looks cool but "DANGEROUS AS HELL IN MY OPINION". i'll be content if i can bottom out out 3" above the pavement. __________________ -02 avalanche (daily driver) -66 gto ragtop 389/400 (garage queen, hand-me-down from dad) -72 Tribute Trans Am (6.0LS/T56 6-speed) in progress -2003 YUKON (Wife's) -71 gmc swb fleet (current project, gonna shave everything, bags, stuff w/ 20's, gen III powertrain) -48 3100 SWB - 12/31/23 LONG TERM Project

10-14-2004, 10:10 PM	#504
smbrouss70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rayne, LA Posts: 2,781	The pinch weld that they are referring to is located on the bottom side of the rocker panels where 2 pieces of metal are "pinched" together, and then spot "welded" __________________ Steven "If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go wherever they went." -- Will Rogers R.I.P. Oscar R.I.P. Ratchet 1967 Pontiac GTO - Dad was the Original Owner 1970 Chevy 2wd SWB "Oscar's Truck" 1970 Chevy 2wd Blazer "Ratchet's Blazer" 2013 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax/Allison Z71 LTZ "Brown Sugar" 2017 Chevy Suburban "BDB" 2020 Chevy Blazer Premier "Foxy" Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Shop Build

11-14-2004, 02:59 PM	#508
sixty8c10 MY EX DRIVES A BROOM Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Herington, KS Posts: 869	keep this thread going lots of info here __________________ They say nobody's perfect. I'm a nobody, so I must be perfect. Building Nemo -1968 C10 Long Bed FRED -1947 KB-2 International

10-20-2004, 03:46 PM	#505
BK BK Built Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oroville, WA Posts: 478	I was wondering if anyone that is layin frame on stock trailing arm can post pics or e-mail at fathead_03@hotmail.com I desire to do this, and am just curious as to how they are all designed. Also, how much room behind the front seats is there with a big notch, enough to fit another set of seats??? And up front, with the crossmember notch, could i Z my frame instead, i was thinking 2". Has anyone done this, and if so, what problems did you encounter? I want to use stock steering box(no rack and pinion) and i think the only problem will be ill have to put another joint or 2 in the steering linkage to clear the upper control arm. Thanks. OH, and last, is there anyone in or around washington/oregon that has done the crossmember notch? I would love to take a look, and also maybe even have you notch mine

11-02-2004, 02:45 AM	#506
BK BK Built Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oroville, WA Posts: 478	Well, ive been contimplating this crossmember drop, as well as z-ing my frame. I picked myself up a late 70's early 80's chevy frame with the full front suspension and whatnot. I was wondering, will the crossmember from it bolt up to my frame, so should i just take the whole front suspension off of it, notch that crossmember, then mount it up to my frame? ALso, i wanted to z the frame, and was wondering, as i want to z the frame 2", should i only go 1" on a crossmember drop, or should i go 2 & 2, or what should i do to get a fair amount of drop while not having to put 30 u-joints in my steering shaft. Thanks. Oh, also, anyone here in washington or souther BC wanna do my crossmember notch??? Thanks.

11-02-2004, 03:10 AM	#507
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Do a 1.25" crossmember drop then see where you framesits and go from there. I personaly would not z your frame. Cut your Air bags mount as short as you can and cut up the crossmember to clear your bags and your panel will sit down on the ground. What size tire you running on the front? Also where your trailing arms mount to the crossmember on the rear you will need to take out your rivets and the peice of 1/8" plate that is there. If you want to lay true frame.

11-25-2004, 01:42 AM	#509
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Anyone have a interest in all my moded crossmember parts?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

11-25-2004, 09:42 AM	#510
FuelCellGuy FUEL CELL GURU Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 993	I don't understand, are you wanting to sell the crossmember?? If so, how much??

11-25-2004, 12:51 PM	#511
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	I am seriously contemplating selling everything I have. I dont have time to work on this project as my prioritys have changed. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

11-25-2004, 08:52 PM	#512
71'tahoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: lynchburg ohio Posts: 736	dont lose sight phantom, ive been reading this post from the begining.I really think that if you sell your parts your truck will never be completed.I think that some off the guys on the site are right,maybe step back,take a breather,and start on it in the new year.I know what its like to be building a new home and not enough time for the truck,as im also doing a couple trucks.I have stepped back for acouple months.Im now back on the site and on this thread first.To be honest and not get to soft on you guys is this thread that got me back in the game.I live for the under construction pics.So phantom dont give up and dont make me come down there and help finish that truck,cause im only an hour or so away.

11-26-2004, 01:27 PM	#513
Chris~GS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	turners website doesn't work, he IS still in business though right? does anyone have a phone number so i can get a catalog perhaps?

11-26-2004, 01:39 PM	#514
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Please dont waste your time on Turners!! Even though all the parts I got from him bolt up correct and will work great the experience with him has been a nightmare. Not sure if he is even still in bussiness. Air ride makes a set of a arms now for around $700 and a board member here can make you a modded member for around $400. If you decide to use Turner BEWARE!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

11-26-2004, 01:50 PM	#515
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Catalog from turners......sh!T. That guy is a crook. His shop consist of walmart tarps and dirt. If you look in Street Trucks Mag you will see his ads and all those pics are taken @ his shop. His shop is a dive. What parts you need let me know. I have bought alot from this guys and can let you know what works and what doesn't.If you did get his number you wouldn't get through. he never answers his phone and his mail box is alway full.



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11-28-2004, 10:00 PM	#516
slammd72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 225	one of my buddies had on of the first issues of "Truck Builder" and they were starting a "Project 67". they were tackling the front and rear suspension first. they had an awesome replacement crossmember, control arms, bags, and shocks set-up. does anyone know who makes this (or if youve seen it)? id like to see if that would work on all 67-87 1/2 ton frames. any info would help. P.S. i live off those build pics and will be posting some of my own very soon. so keep em coming!!!

11-28-2004, 10:56 PM	#517
98L150 ///Relaxed Atmosphere Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hockley, TX Posts: 657	Attn: Slammed 72 Jim Myers Racing has a mustang 2 crossmember suspension that bolts on these trucks and works very good. We have one on a 67 truck at the shop that is using shockwaves. I do not have them on a website so this web site won't let me post them. If some one can help me with posting them to the web I will gladly post them. __________________ 72 Suburban 64 Chevy short fleet 04 Chevy Colorado Sport Reg Cab 2012 Chevy Avalanche 2003 Chevy S10 Blazer Xtreme http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/RA_Jeff 64 Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=295915

11-30-2004, 04:05 PM	#520
grnddwn belly dragger Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: sherwood park AB. Canada Posts: 694	I like the Chevy parts and the MII crossmember wasn't designed to lay the truck on the ground. Its not that they don't work just fine. I just tend to sell people more on the dropped Chev. The MII does provide you with a better turning radius. The control arms aren't as wide. I think the factory one looks better. Maybe I'm just wierd. Its what i'm used to using

11-30-2004, 08:55 PM	#522
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Yes, the 73-87 will work under a 67-72. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

12-01-2004, 01:21 AM	#524
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	That's a nice setup! Does anyone have a link as to where I can purchase this front-end? Thanks. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold

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