Project "My Happy Mess"

[litew8]

Thanks Bud. What's everyone's take on the pinstripe under the hood?

We didn't get primer down today, just more sanding/prepping with 80.
Tomorrow for sure

Bought the primer we're going to shoot on top of the self etch.

[Dieselwrencher]

Great progress. That Hancock stamping is interesting. I've seen one some where but can't remember where. I do plan on hitting some shows this year. Starting with Good Guys at very least!

As far as the striping, I say leave it too. It adds a nice touch to the era IMO.

[litew8]

The stamp is on the hood latch or support. You probably see it every time you pop the hood. Good Guy's - ever since I got my truck I've considered joining. Especially a few years back when they allowed 71's. I've considered restoring a 69' Snapper mower and putting in the bed for show. The mower was made the same year we first went to the moon, and is named Comet.

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by litew8

The stamp is on the hood latch or support. You probably see it every time you pop the hood. Good Guy's - ever since I got my truck I've considered joining. Especially a few years back when they allowed 71's. I've considered restoring a 69' Snapper mower and putting in the bed for show. The mower was made the same year we first went to the moon, and is named Comet.

That's funny! My friend Mathew has a 61 Wheel Horse he's been threatening to take too!

[litew8]

that's a lot larger than a Snapper Commet.
Okay, if not the mower, then this from my childhood.
I envied the kids in my neighborhood that had these! 71'-73'

[litew8]

Still no primer, but plenty of pics!
We've sort of concluded today that my truck was in fact painted once
before. It was done so well, there's hardly any indication of this being
performed, except for one area on the back side of the cab (pics below).
Shown in the pictures are two shades of Bronze. I think that the color
a PO painted the truck was actually darker in color - but we won't be
certain until we actually paint the jams.

Here are a couple shots from yesterday. Don't think you're the only one
Low Elco - we had dents that needed attention too, after sanding they
were more visible. They've since been sanded, and the cab is sitting
waiting to be primed.


Back/top of cab.




Back/pass. side of cab.




Front/top of cab. Seriously?






Engine shot for good measure




Shots above finished sanded.




Back side of cab paint scuffed/sanded.




Masked off with plastic. $20 for the box of plastic. Plenty left over.








80 grit sandpaper used to go over all metal as last step after wire wheel.




Tag taped up.




Here are the pics showing the back side of the cab (down the middle).
The two different tones of bronze, AND something that wasn't noticeable
before - there is no white paint underneath to either side, left or right.
White paint (meaning two layers, bronze/white) exists only in the middle
area. Which would indicate they painted the entire cab white first
from the factory, and then a PO stripped the paint clean (both layers)
and repainted? Except for the middle area?? You can see the masking
job - where the two tones of bronze are - it would have ridden right
below the trim that wraps around the backside of the cab. But I have
no idea why they wouldn't have stripped down the middle area.
Unless I'm too tired to understand and the factory did this. (?)












Cleaning the metal of oil, finger prints, etc... Wax and grease
remover I think its called. All metal wiped down good.
No touching of metal after this step is performed.
Etch primer goes on next.




I think this is sealer getting stirred.




Now the reason we didn't spray primer today. We spent time installing
remote ventilation for the Bullard Free Air Pump. They sell an extension
to run the Inlet filter at a distance, away from the work area if needed -
but it's just a tube that goes straight up. So we (The Fixer) engineered
our own using PVC pipe/fittings and ran it to the outside - leaving the pump
on the inside. Allowing for clean fresh air to be delivered from
the outside of the shop, away from harmful contaminants (primer/paint, etc...).














Turned on




Tomorrow AM the truck will get shot with primer

[Low Elco]

Right on! Always the small stuff that trips ya up. I'm in the same position for paint on the cab inner. Maybe Sunday. Good progress, keep it Rollin!
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[Dieselwrencher]

That fresh air pump is a good idea! Your cab is looking really nice. I bet you're righ on the cab getting a repaint too. The white are is odd like you say.

[litew8]

Thanks man. We got her primed

Looks nice, with very, very little prep work (sanding) needed before painting the jambs.
We plan to shoot (the jambs) paint possibly Monday.
After that we'll work on the doors, get the jambs painted and put the doors back on.

Taking a well deserved weekend off.
The free air pump system worked out GREAT!

The only issue he ran into was the hose curling up on him, getting tangled with the air hose (which also curls) used for the paint gun. We'll correct this by buying swivel adapters for each so that the hoses can freely turn on each end, allowing him to manage them when needed. If I am right that the cab got repainted, and a PO painted it a darker shade of bronze, then that will mean my firewall will be a darker color when all is said and done. I can live with that, but it'll be interesting to see what the 522 med. bronze looks like after he shoots the jambs. Oh, the drama/suspense.

Pics up tonight.

[Low Elco]

Congrats ! Big steps always feel good.
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[mightymouse]

nice work , keep it up

[litew8]

Thanks! For the most part, these pics aren't too exciting.
Just my cab turning different colors , but for the beinginer
they may prove useful as for how the process works in a general
manner.


Took clear protective film off the mask.
The shop also has a large exhaust fan running while spraying.




This pic from earlier wasn't "sealer" -




It was actually the self etch primer -




Mixing self etch primer and Dupont VariPrime(R) 616S Converter
according to instructions.






Two thin coats sprayed dry, not wet. Let stand and cure
for 10 - 15 minutes (I think). Then spray second coat.


1st










2nd














Next up, 3 coats of Dupont 2K Urethane Surfacer primer-filler.




1st








2nd












3rd

[Low Elco]

Oooooh, pretty! Now you get to start blocking! Bahahaha!
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[litew8]

Urethane primer isn't as hard to sand as Epoxy. The Fixer says with the both of us working opposite sides, we'll be finished within a 1/2 an hour. Hardly any scratches at all and it's nice and smooth. Seriously no scratches except for 2 tiny spots where bondo was used.

P.S. For those of you still following this thread, I apologize for being wrong about the Epoxy over Etch conversation. If you haven't already noticed, we're not using Epoxy primer, we're using Urethane over Etch. If I could go back and delete all the comments, trust me I would. I think Etch would actually eat Epoxy - so I hope someone doesn't go off and do that before doing research of their own first. Oh well, we're all alive and nobody died.

[Dieselwrencher]

It looks great!

[Mike Bradbury]

Looks great.
Why didn't you shoot the firewall?

[oldman3]

Cab looks great, nice job.....Jim

[litew8]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

It looks great!

Originally Posted by oldman3

Cab looks great, nice job.....Jim

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Mike Bradbury

Looks great.
Why didn't you shoot the firewall?

Thanks! There's a few reasons why I didn't want to shoot the firewall.
If I am wrong about the truck being repainted before, and the back of
the cab is a factory fluke, that means:

1) Firewall is original factory paint.
2) It doesn't need repainted, it's in good shape.
3) I will preserve the awesome factory paint numbers behind the engine

441 smeared on with paint




The gas tank has 441 written on it too. Front/top/right


4) Retaining originality, making it a true "Custom" Deluxe C10
Similar to not repainting the underside of the hood, retaining the PO's "Custom" pinstripe.

[doubleb's69]

Looking good! I can't wait to see color. I love Bronze on these trucks.

[mightymouse]

cab looking really good ,

[Low Elco]

underhood one is cool, I really like the dash stripes.

[bundeber]

I think that's pretty cool keeping all the factory paint markings. Nice progress, looking forward to seeing how it goes.

[litew8]

Thanks!

We didn't get anything accomplished today, but I took a couple
pics! Before we start wet sanding, we want to apply seam sealer
to all areas. We're not too comfortable wanting to wet sand and having
water run into areas that it shouldn't, even if we let it air out after.
So the search began for seam sealer. The Fixer actually has
a couple of unused boxes full of Fusor -



... but they are 15 years old! From 1997.
We tested a tube and it actually set up good after a while, except the
surface of the beads were still tacky to the touch. We're not willing
to take a chance and apply it - so I went and bought some good 3M
self-leveling seam sealer, and some heavy bodied seam sealer.



We'll get it applied tomorrow and then think about sanding/painting.
This week for sure we'll get something painted!
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I'll explain a picture from earlier a little more.
The good ole` days when we ruled the streets of the South Side!
Not his picture, but one similar. w/his built 351 Cleavland. Man this car
was hella fun to drive! 2nd gear scratches EASY!






And this picture, the Pit Boss's engineering cira 1985!






Almost forgot, remember this shot from earlier? Look closely in the
outlined circle. You can see what looks like a dent. I checked it out
today and got a close up look. It's another number stamp!



#32 I think

[litew8]

Been taking a little break from the computer/internet.
Here's a small update showing seam sealing of the door jambs, etc...
excluding the drip rails. We still need to give them attention.
Pictures below showing the "Heavy Build" 3M seam sealer.
Before and after. We put tape on/around anything we don't
want to smear with seam sealer, then remove the tape before
the seam sealer sets up - which isn't too much longer after being
applied.
















The Fixer's gun. 3M Seam Sealer cartridges fit it good.




Glove used to smooth/smear seam sealer. Used grease/wax remover
also to dip finger in while smoothing - helped keep the sealer from sticking/
drying on glove.




End results -


























We'll prime/sealer over the 3M seam sealer, then paint. Should
turn out good. We'll get the drip rails done soon. More pictures later.


Who knows what this is?




Picture puzzle for the Pit Boss -

[Low Elco]

Cool! Came out nicer than mine did- I chickened out and used the Eastwood brushable and worked it in. Time for color, baby! I did it -it's fun!