SPID Picture thread?

[halfstep]

Thanks. We may be somewhat of a minority. I suspect there are a lot more trucks here that were green to begin with...

[SS Tim]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

Clean looking spid too. The upper LH corner has come undone a bit on mine. I figure to cut the bad off, and match it with 3M protection film. May even top the entire spid off with another sheet. That is unless someone has a better idea.

Since you are pushing for an original appearing truck I'd advise against altering the SPID. Generally I advise people to have a reproduction SPID made and attach it to another restored glovebox door thus keeping the original safe and intact. Keeps you from having the dreaded repaint masking line around the SPID as well.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by SS Tim

Since you are pushing for an original appearing truck I'd advise against altering the SPID. Generally I advise people to have a reproduction SPID made and attach it to another restored glovebox door thus keeping the original safe and intact. Keeps you from having the dreaded repaint masking line around the SPID as well.

You know that's a good idea. May depend on the cost of a nice glove box door. From what I'm seeing, not bad. Nice to hear from you SS.

[cheyenne shortstep]

Here's one from the 69 GMC 2500 I picked up today.

[Ed F]

Can't help but notice the condition of SPIDS. Some really show their age while others look brand new. The one in my '70 C10 is long gone. I recently looked at a '72. The SPID was covered with a plastic film like it was it was laminated and looked brand new. So I have a couple questions.

Did GM start laminating them at some point. And if so about when did that happen?

I imagine there are reproduction ones out there. How can you tell if it's original or a reproduction?

In a case like mine where the truck no longer retains the original, is there a way to get the correct information to make an accurate reproduction.

Is there any way to verify if the truck was built to the SPID or if the SPID was created to match the truck?

I guess the answer to my second and third question would also answer the last question. And people who create reproductions do so on the honor system.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Ed F

Did GM start laminating them at some point. And if so about when did that happen?

Yes. I don't remember what model year but it varied by final assembly location. My '87 is laminated, and I think my '80 was laminated.

Originally Posted by Ed F

I imagine there are reproduction ones out there. How can you tell if it's original or a reproduction?

Site member "chipflyer" does reproductions. I'm sure he can tell an original from a reproduction. http://outintheshop.com/

Originally Posted by Ed F

In a case like mine where the truck no longer retains the original, is there a way to get the correct information to make an accurate reproduction.

You can contact the GM Heritage Center Archives, depending on your model year. For US built and/or sold light trucks after 1976 you can send them your VIN and $50 and they will return the actual vehicle invoice for your specific truck, which includes RPO content and pricing.

http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/?page=1

GM of Canada has information reaching a little farther back, for vehicles sold in Canada, or vehicles produced in Canada for US consumption.

http://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/options.html

If you don't fall in either of those categories you are out of luck.

Originally Posted by Ed F

Is there any way to verify if the truck was built to the SPID or if the SPID was created to match the truck?

For the original build: The SPID is a service document. The truck is contented and all of the build information broadcast throughout the assembly plant to the areas required. The build manifest, specific build sheet, tuneup labels, tire pressure labels, VIN tag and SPID document are all created to match the truck as a result of that process. The build sheet is what communicates to the assembly floor how the truck is to be built.

40 years after the fact: It's a mixed bag. The hardcore restorer will build the truck as originally equipped; some percentage of guys build the truck the way they want. A few will make a new SPID to match the added content; from what I've observed most do not go to that effort*. You probably won't be able to tell unless (a) you have the build sheet or something else documenting the original content or (b) you ask them.

*In reviewing this thread I see one person that made a new SPID to match their added content.

K

[geunther]

72 Cheyenne Super. Grease pencil underneath. I never noticed that before.

[SS Tim]

Originally Posted by geunther

72 Cheyenne Super. Grease pencil underneath. I never noticed that before.

It happens sometimes.

What is the trim color of your truck? Baltimore didn't generally list the code on the SPID. If it is a blue or olive trim I'd love to see a picture or two.

[colgad]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Yes. I don't remember what model year but it varied by final assembly location. My '87 is laminated, and I think my '80 was laminated.



Site member "chipflyer" does reproductions. I'm sure he can tell an original from a reproduction. http://outintheshop.com/



You can contact the GM Heritage Center Archives, depending on your model year. For US built and/or sold light trucks after 1976 you can send them your VIN and $50 and they will return the actual vehicle invoice for your specific truck, which includes RPO content and pricing.

http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/?page=1

GM of Canada has information reaching a little farther back, for vehicles sold in Canada, or vehicles produced in Canada for US consumption.

http://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/options.html

If you don't fall in either of those categories you are out of luck.



For the original build: The SPID is a service document. The truck is contented and all of the build information broadcast throughout the assembly plant to the areas required. The build manifest, specific build sheet, tuneup labels, tire pressure labels, VIN tag and SPID document are all created to match the truck as a result of that process. The build sheet is what communicates to the assembly floor how the truck is to be built.

40 years after the fact: It's a mixed bag. The hardcore restorer will build the truck as originally equipped; some percentage of guys build the truck the way they want. A few will make a new SPID to match the added content; from what I've observed most do not go to that effort*. You probably won't be able to tell unless (a) you have the build sheet or something else documenting the original content or (b) you ask them.

*In reviewing this thread I see one person that made a new SPID to match their added content.

K

I did it to mine. Not perfect but it was fun doing it.

[Canuckvetter]

My 67 CST has a 71 glovebox door. Just pick this one up today to replace it.
Not sure what the "J63 FRT & REAR SHIELDS" are. I assume they are some kind of brake shield from the "J" prefix.




http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1456028098

[jamesmadconductor]

My 71 C20 Cheyenne's SPID and an exterior shot

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[SS Tim]

Canuckvetter, That existing Oshawa SPID is a nice one in itself. Is there a better picture posted somewhere? It would be a nice addition to my collection.

[Canuckvetter]

Originally Posted by SS Tim

Canuckvetter, That existing Oshawa SPID is a nice one in itself. Is there a better picture posted somewhere? It would be a nice addition to my collection.

Here you go Tim. Thats the best I have. Took the acetone to it just minutes ago. Would have been a sweet truck in Seafoam Green with Fawn interior.



http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1457149415

[Canuckvetter]

Originally Posted by SS Tim

Canuckvetter, That existing Oshawa SPID is a nice one in itself. Is there a better picture posted somewhere? It would be a nice addition to my collection.

I have 2 more Oshawa SPID's if your interested 67&68

[SS Tim]

Thanks for taking the time. As to the other two need you even ask? Of course we would like to see them as well!!! :-)

[Canuckvetter]

Originally Posted by SS Tim

Thanks for taking the time. As to the other two need you even ask? Of course we would like to see them as well!!! :-)

Post 513 on this thread is my other 67.

This truck I had made a deal, gave him 20% down, rented a trailer, drove 1-1/2 hrs. of a 2 hr. trip to get a phone call that he changed his mind.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1457153995

[crf250r]

Only have the glovebox door, sure wish the rest of the truck came with it.

[Tomahawk30]

Here's one that I snapped of a truck for sale over the weekend... Looks like it was built up in Canada.

[elpound]

Here is my finished product on my "obviously" fake SPID. I didn't want to use a typewriter as someone suggested. It's not perfect, but I'm happy with it. It will enhance my build and presentation.

[jocko]

generally speaking, 500 series RPOs are conventional two tone (different top only) and 400 series are deluxe two tone (i.e. white top and middle for 71/72 and top and bottom below lower belt for 69/70). I think 69/70 used a different term than "deluxe two tone" for the 400 coded RPOs, forget what it is off the top of my head. 534 is white top/med olive rest of body.
EDIT: Looks like your tailgate was originally med olive - and can see it peeking out of the upper left corner of the SPID where the clear is peeling as well as see the overspray/tape line on the SPID itself where the dk olive was sprayed - lots of work! Just sounds like a thorough repaint - but it's odd they'd go to the trouble of the inside of the cab but not the inside of the tailgate... Is the inside of the bed painted dk olive? Maybe used to have a bed liner?

[layinrocker65]

Originally Posted by jocko

but it's odd they'd go to the trouble of the inside of the cab but not the inside of the tailgate... Is the inside of the bed painted dk olive? Maybe used to have a bed liner?

So the truck had a camper on it for most of its life. The metal bed is super scratched up but in great shape and no sign of respray in the bed. They had two plastic huelga bird decals (guy claims it was for migrant farm workers and not for the norteno gang which is odd since he told me he is selling the truck to pay for defense lawyer fees and court fees and was possibly going to prison for his crimes) any ways the birds were just double side tapes to the dash and door panel and that was taped off when sprayed. I removed them and now there are medium olive huelga birds in its place.

[layinrocker65]

Originally Posted by jocko

but it's odd they'd go to the trouble of the inside of the cab but not the inside of the tailgate... Is the inside of the bed painted dk olive? Maybe used to have a bed liner?

So the truck had a camper on it for most of its life. The metal bed is super scratched up but in great shape and no sign of respray in the bed. They had two plastic huelga bird decals (guy claims it was for migrant farm workers and not for the norteno gang which is odd since he told me he is selling the truck to pay for defense lawyer fees and court fees and was possibly going to prison for his crimes) any ways the birds were just double side tapes to the dash and door panel and that was taped off when sprayed. I removed them and now there are medium olive huelga birds in its place.

[Boyd67]

Just a plain jane. You can't see it very well

[jocko]

Ha, that's pretty funny. What are you going to do? Stay dark olive or go med olive? Both are nice!

[Highlander72]

Here's one I saw today, still owned by the same family. Pretty sparse, just radio and posi! lol