Bubba's recycling project

[bubba327]

hey Dave!! you are alive We were just jacking your 52 thread in your absence. I was gonna come get the 52 if you did not show up soon.

Restabbed the distributor one tooth and reset the plug wires to proper location. I now have 12 initial - 20 mechanical and 32 all in but not exactly sure what RPM "all in" is yet. I 'll worry about the advance springs and curve a little later.

I am gonna have to pull the carb and reset the secondary throttle plates as I cannot get the idle down below 1000 and the vacuum is a little lower than i expected at 15 inches at 1000 rpm I adjusted the secondary throttle plate but I missed reading the part about the slot window and only .020 showing of the bleed slot showing on the secondary side. I left it a little wide

[bubba327]

Geez It has been awhile hasn't it??
I wish I had lots of great news and pictures but sadly the progress is pretty slow these days.
Just too many other demands on my extra time .
I think of Alan's words of wisdom about progress often, and how it can be small, but it is still progress.
So, I paid my membership up for another year.
Thanks for all the great ideas and help I have found here from you guys!!!

[daverod]

relax u have all winter.

[bubba327]

Hey Dave how's things over on your side of the state??
Good part is that I have heat in the shop this winter !!

[daverod]

Heat is a good thing.You"ll get all kinda things done now. My side sucks I'm going south.

[bubba327]

I sure hope I am not in trouble..
I parked the 64 about the end of fall and then kinda forgot about it.
Winter came and it has been at least 0 for the last few days when I realized OH NO -I may not have enough anti freeze.. so I pushed it in the garage when it stays about 48-50. It has been there 5 days now so it should be thawed.
Not sure why the radiator is dry and so far it looks unhurt. I am hoping it all leaked out before the freeze. what little fluids I found do not look like it would be enough for -5..
The good news is all the freeze plugs are still in place and no puddles on the floor after the 5 days.
I dont see any block damage after a quick check under the truck.

Geez, I checked all the tractors and other trucks and equipment in late fall, I just never did the 64..
sure hope I did not ruin the new motor......
I am feeling dumb !!

[NEWFISHER]

Crossing fingers for you! At least your working on it right? Two steps back and one forward progress ahead.

[TJ's Chevy]

Looks good! Your gonna give the ol inline 6 a proper burial right???

[bubba327]

Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY

Looks good! Your gonna give the ol inline 6 a proper burial right???

So I am a little late responding here,
But I sold the inline six to a friend who is putting it in a old Land Cruiser that already had a tired 250 ,
Actually I sold him the Offenhauser intake and the Holley 2 barrel for a fair price and threw in the motor
It is good to see it going to a good home.

[chevy_man5]

Looks like a very happy place!

[daverod]

So did it have any antifreeze or just straight water? Maybe I better go check my 52. It just got kicked outside. So where did the water go?

[bubba327]

A really wise man once said on this site something about progress still being progress even if it is small at times..
Thanks Alan- that thought keeps me going some days..
I had the 69 Chevelle out cruising around last weekend in the warm weather and decided I just have to make more time for the 64. I really miss driving it..

So the spring update -the motor is fine- it did not freeze - thank goodness!!
I rolled it in the garage when it was below zero and kept it above freezing the rest of the winter.

TODAY was the maiden trip down the street and back home too!!
It sure felt good to be driving it again!
She runs a little rough with the carb mixture and I just have the front float adjusted. It has a exhaust pop backfire at low rpm when in gear, but I think that is just the open headers without any backpressure,
I am going to put the old school ramhorn manifolds on for the permanent installation,
I just put on the headers for the initial few runs.


So the exhaust system is next- is there any "packaged" dual exhaust kits worth looking in to?? The muffler shop quote was about 600 bucks for dual 2" exhausts with basic turbo mufflers

[Vernski]

Originally Posted by bubba327

So the exhaust system is next- is there any "packaged" dual exhaust kits worth looking in to?? The muffler shop quote was about 600 bucks for dual 2" exhausts with basic turbo mufflers
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Have you wintered as well as the truck? Hey on the 2" kits Jegs, Summit, and Speedway are offering them at around $200 for a 2" pipe kit, but mufflers are extra so you can save a little off $600 depending on the $$ for the mufflers and
hangers & clamps. I don't know if you have seen Frank since I got some paint on him so I enclosed a pic take care Bubba...Vernski

[likaroc13]

Good to hear from you, & glad to see you giving the '64 some attention. I can't wait to drive mine again & get that same feeling you had. That seems a little steep on the exhaust, but I dunno.

[Captainfab]

Good to hear you're back to work on the truck.

Yeah that is a fair amount of money for an exhaust system, but that seems to be about the norm these days. That's the main reason more and more guys are building their own exhaust system.

[bubba327]

Thanks guys.

Vernski that truck is looking good!!
Captain -still hoping to get get up north to meet you and the North Idaho guys, Youngest daughter is looking at Univ of Idaho in Moscow and Montana State Univ in Bozeman.

While drinking coffee and waiting for daylight this morning I found these on Ebay . They look like a import version of the Speedway tru rams.
Any body ever tried them?? A search here on the site did not turn up really anything one way or the other. Would they work any different or better than a stock ramhorn?

[63 Spud]

Glad to hear your new motor survived the winter! What's with the primer hood. Planning on getting started on body work this summer?
Those exhaust kits Vernski is talking about work pretty well. That is what I used on my truck. A lot of cutting, fitting, adjusting and lying on your back with a mig welder but they do the job. I still paid a muffler shop about $180 for tailpipes.

[bubba327]

Hi Mark!! !
I bead blasted your old Holley intake and it sure looks sweet sitting on my new motor!!

A friend had given me a hood last summer without any dents and since mine had a crease on the drivers side where the PO dropped a ladder on it, I went ahead and put it on last fall.

So today I removed the headers and loosely hung up the ram horns and studied things for a while....... like how to run the exhaust.

I never did really like how little clearance there was between the back of the HEI and the firewall so I went ahead and unbolted things and slid the whole motor and tranny ahead 1 inch and re-drilled the frame for the motor mounts and transmission crossmember.
It fits much better in the engine bay now.

I had done some searches here before and it seems that some guys are even using the front holes with a V-8 so I just went ahead and just went 1 inch ahead .

I had decided to go with the swept back ram horns on both sides so clearing the frame and crossmember is not a issue. I have one, And the spring swap meet is in two weeks maybe I can pick up another. If I have to, I may just order a matched set of Dorman replacements manifolds.

How much clearance do you have by the starter with the swept back manifolds, will a full size starter still fit???

Any body ever run the exhaust outside the frame railsand dump ahead of the rear wheels?? sure would be less clearance issues with the rear arms

Thinking about what to use for mufflers on 2 inch duals, (no cross over)
Smithys?? glasspacks? They may be too loud unless they were the long style.

[63 Spud]

I have block hugger headers on mine so I can't comment on starter clearance. Mine comes off the collector and angles back at about 45degrees, very close to the back of the lower control arms. Then straight back with the mufflers outside the frame rails under the cab. Originally it was dumping in front of the rear wheels, very loud and obnoxious. Tailpipes made all the difference. Very tolerable noise level now. I used the inexpensive Thrush welded mufflers. I tried taking pictures but can't get any good angles from the garage floor.

[TJ's Chevy]

The new old style manifolds look good.

[idaho66stepside]

Hi Bubba just caught up on your build and it's awesome. I took my truck to a local muffler shop and had the exhaust come out under the step. I'm thinking the pipes were on the inside of frame. With knock off flow masters and chrome tips it way cheaper than 600. Maybe a different shop will do you better

[daverod]

Drill some holes in the cross member and go though there. Mine comes out the side and its loud. My 52 goes out the back can't even hear it. Nobody said cool is easy. why no x over? doesn't take any more
room. I have the long glass packs. loud...

[McMurphy]

I had thought about running my exhaust out from under the step like Chevelles did, until a friend pointed out that it makes for soot-dirty rear wheels from the exhaust. So I canned that idea....not that I mind cleaning and all that, but I am loathe to make more work for myself in that respect too.

I am almost at the exhaust deadline stage too, so I am following this closely for ideas as well !!

Good Luck

[bubba327]

Originally Posted by idaho66stepside

Hi Bubba just caught up on your build and it's awesome. I took my truck to a local muffler shop and had the exhaust come out under the step. I'm thinking the pipes were on the inside of frame. With knock off flow masters and chrome tips it way cheaper than 600. Maybe a different shop will do you better

Thanks!! Your build is coming along nicely too..
I will be in Twin Falls next Friday for the state FFA convention at CSI campus.
shame it will be a really fast over and back one day trip.
Hope we can get together again again this year. I would love to see your projects.

[bubba327]

It is good to have friends..
It turns out that fellow member Valdez and his dad Cokeb still had a few sets of manifolds squirreled away and Kyle is removing yet another set this weekend from his 72 so he can install headers. He plans on the extra HP at the drag track helping him with better times.
So I swapped him the headers I had for a set of their swept back ram horns and then used their sandblaster to clean them all up. One of them has a few broken studs to fix first.. hoping the PB blaster works miracles and they will just fall out with out a fuss.
So I am planning on 2 .25 in duals
I guess I will go ahead with a 2" H crossover then turn out under the frame rails , then to 4 in round mufflers which will then kick out in front of the tires. I had put turn down dumps on a truck a few years ago and it just stirred up the dust and always made a mess.
I have access to conduit benders and the 2 in rigid shoe is just a little bigger than 2.25. If you put wet sand in the pipe for the bigger bends it wont collapse.

Still making up my mind on mufflers .. Smithys.. Brockman mellowtones... which are steel packed or Thrush or cherry bombs as long as possible.
I dont really want the cackle of glass packs , just a good deep bad a$$ rumble
As for the sooty wheels I bring the pipe out farther and almost pointed straight away from the frame,Did not have a problem before except the exhaust noise reverbs back off passing cars or trucks in the next lane over if the windows are rolled down

Just noticed that One manifold has GM stamped on it, The other has GMT. Is the one a truck manifold? they are exactly the same size and output (2") except for mirror imaged L and R....