'66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

[watahyahknow]

cant wait to see it go past those little japanese turboed sewingmachines
speaking of turbo's still think it would be a nice idea for this car maibe even a factory stock setup (i think these engines allso came with a turbo fitted )

[thirdstreettito]

Man, this thing is really coming along. Good work!

[BlueJeep]

With as low as you set up the car and with as low as your Tahoe is, I'm wondering how you get them up over that "speed bump" getting into the shop. But, I'm sure you have a creative solution for that as well!

[britnjc]

is that a bad mitten birdie in your wheel well...?

[87 chevy silverado]

i love the build. one word unique. i guess u cant leave well enough alone lol nether can i i love all of your builds. but i think even though i dont like imports. but this is kick a$$

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by 6772owner

FF that looks amazing buddy, cant say enough about your attention to detail and fab skills, now get us a video of that thing running!

Looking forward to filming that! Shouldn't be long now

Originally Posted by Alvin

Wow, that thing is tucked way back and low.. just the way it should be! Nice job, as always.

Not quite as far back as it sits in the Honda (relative to the front wheels) but it's far back as it'll go in this without becoming an arm rest

Originally Posted by Brad

Mike, it was good to see you the other day and to see your progress on this. Guys, these pics don't do it justice, Mike is a genius at this stuff!
Thanks Brad. Looking forward to seeing how those Malibu parts work out
I can't wait to see you drive it dude!!

Originally Posted by impalamark

Ya know it 's one thing to bring together a custom project like this and
quite another to fabricate it so that in the end it will end up looking
like it was factory built that way. This is going be just the coolest of cars,
Heck, it already is .
Mark

Thank you!

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

cant wait to see it go past those little japanese turboed sewingmachines
speaking of turbo's still think it would be a nice idea for this car maibe even a factory stock setup (i think these engines allso came with a turbo fitted )

No factory turbos on s2000s but a plenty of guys are aftermarket boosted. If I add forced induction I think I'll go with a roots SC for ease of packaging and improved low end grunt.

Originally Posted by thirdstreettito

Man, this thing is really coming along. Good work!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by BlueJeep

With as low as you set up the car and with as low as your Tahoe is, I'm wondering how you get them up over that "speed bump" getting into the shop. But, I'm sure you have a creative solution for that as well!

Yeah; keep them immobile

Originally Posted by britnjc

is that a bad mitten birdie in your wheel well...?

Why yes. Yes it is It's there to keep me from impaling my face on this:

Originally Posted by 87 chevy silverado

i love the build. one word unique. i guess u cant leave well enough alone lol nether can i i love all of your builds. but i think even though i dont like imports. but this is kick a$$

'preciate it If all goes as planned it should surprise a few and I don't think I'll be parking next to one like it.

[Jvsapp]

Damn FF that things look so clean. i can't wait to see it all together on its wheels and ready to roll. you going to keep the colors same?

[dammitmitchell]

what exactly is that the big badmitten birdie on exactly?
is that a support or something for the bump stop?

just a guess.

[Frizzle Fry]

I don't plan to paint the exterior any time soon, and the engine compartmant will be that blue.

The birdie us on a temp jig I made based on the factory Honda tie rod location so I can match up the placement of the rack.

[sleepertruck72]

This car deserves the "Car of the Year" award ! It's coming along very very nice ! Great vision, and even better execution

[Jvsapp]

Originally Posted by sleepertruck72

This car deserves the "Car of the Year" award ! It's coming along very very nice ! Great vision, and even better execution

screw car of the year, i say riddler award. or if FF takes it on the Hotrod Power tour it would definately qualify as top 5 easy.

[sleepertruck72]

if FF takes it on the Hotrod Power tour it would definately qualify as top 5 easy.[/QUOTE]

I think youre onto something !

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by sleepertruck72

This car deserves the "Car of the Year" award ! It's coming along very very nice ! Great vision, and even better execution

Originally Posted by Jvsapp

screw car of the year, i say riddler award. or if FF takes it on the Hotrod Power tour it would definately qualify as top 5 easy.

Originally Posted by sleepertruck72

I think youre onto something !

Now you guys have taken it too far...

[Ackattack]

OK, I stayed home from work today sick, and after reading through all of this (thanks for the entertainment) I feel even sicker. I can't believe you hacked up such a nice original Sunbeam Minx. What a hack job! You should be arrested!





No, man, this thing is just awesome and puts so many of our "cookie cutter" builds to shame. Just awesome!

[jb1016]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Now you guys have taken it too far...

Ok, how about "Most Creative Use of a Shuttlecock?"

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by Ackattack

No, man, this thing is just awesome and puts so many of our "cookie cutter" builds to shame. Just awesome!

Ack, Glad I could help you pass some sick time. No, I don't do cookie cutter, but I also don't have anything finished

Originally Posted by jb1016

Ok, how about "Most Creative Use of a Shuttlecock?"

I'll take it!

[Frizzle Fry]

On to the steering. You guys that have been following along on this magical mystery tour may recall my previous ramblings about the R&P/tie-rod/engine spacial conflict; they all had their own agendas. The following series of pics shows the final solution that makes everyone play well together...

For those just joining the fun, here's the issue: The steering rack needs to sit inside the engine block/oil pan in order to place the inner tie rods in their correct position (according to Honda engineering) to avoid bump steer and Ackerman angle issues. ..and the plasma cutter is not the solution

I had a few different ideas including a front mounted rear/steer rack with bell cranks, or a center take-off rack with an offset center link ...but ultimately it came down to the KISS moto and I went with a standard manual rack (Truimph TR7/TR8) with offset ends and a linear bearing/shaft arrangement from VXB to add stability.

TR7/8 rack and linear bearing components along with initial drawing of mount:


Coming together:


Welded up:


Assembled:


Placement (yes, wire-brushes have multiple uses )


Tacked in:

[Frizzle Fry]

The point of this whole exercise is to put the tie rods exactly where they were in the S2000 as directed by the shuttlecocked jigs Thus the need for an offset bracket to connect to the mismatched rack.

First bracket template:


You can now see the justification for the linear tracking components. Without them the bracket could potentially spin on the rack stud, though not likely. I later increased the stud size to 5/8" from 1/2" (shown) and will weld them to the rack. Regardless, the added linear stability is a must for this design. Brackets are from 3/8" plate:


Other side:




...and with jigs removed:

[Frizzle Fry]

Last update for today.

Got the drive-shaft in! This is a thing of beauty Built by JR at Oregon Drive Axle These guys build quality ...period.

Fits like a glove (well, it's a bit tight on the left, but that's fixable )

S2000 front CV, D44 1310 rear:

[watahyahknow]

wow nice solition to the problem , did you do any calculations on the lever part?
its pretty thick but i still have a fear it will flex a bit

you shouldve seen stuff i put together its stong enough to survive a nuclear blast

[Sub-versive]

Wow! That steering rack is sexy! Hahaha!
Seriously nice work!

What the heck do you do for Intel anyway? Tool hookup? R&D?
Some awesome skills man, I am a little jealous.



*Thanks for the info about the driveline too, I need to get mine balanced on the Trailblazer and was not sure who to take it to. I'll call them on Monday.

[Jvsapp]

i love FF's drafting table. kinna looks like mine. but i don't make such purty drawings....

i'm surprised you didn't put the arms in and cycle the steering through the range of motion yet. man that thing is coming close to being done. then i'm sure tubby will get some lovin

FF keep up the awesome work. you never cease to amaze us. that's such an ingenious method of solving a steering issue. totally outside the box, but looks awesome and you still use the inner and outer tie rods. no clearance issues to the oil filter?

['72 Chevy Suburban]

Originally Posted by Sub-versive

What the heck do you do for Intel anyway? Tool hookup? R&D?
Some awesome skills man, I am a little jealous.

You work for Intel, FF? Pretty cool, I work for Sumco, which is a Silicon Supplier to Intel.

[low'n slow]

Hey FF, great job on the steering. One question, do you need a gusset on your right angle weld? I'm wondering about the lateral stress on that joint especially should a pothole jump in front of you.

[Mil-Spec]

Nice!!