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Re: Restoring Rusty
after a few head scratches and purging my mind of the 3 speed how to videos, I found the rather large clip that was holding the remainder of the gear assembly in the tail housing
... and she slid right out in the last pic from left to right (or rear most to front most) we got 1st gear then the reverse slider and then the 2nd gear, my buddy Mopar Seth believes the noise problem lies in there, since it is quiet with 1st gear engaged, but as soon as we disengage it we get the rattle chatter Last edited by Gregski; 07-28-2018 at 09:43 AM. |
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Re: Restoring Rusty
nest to come off was the brownish orange plastic speedo gear, the metal clip holds it in place
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Re: Restoring Rusty
YALR - Yet Another Lock Ring and the rear main shaft bearing comes off, this one took a little flat screw driver (ok crow bar) gentle persuasion to slip off, this reveals the wavy washer which I was told was an afterthought repair/fix of one of the noises these transmissions like to make
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Re: Restoring Rusty
so then things will get loose and we will be able to slide off the rear bearing, the wavy washer, another washer, 1st gear, 1st-2nd + reverse slider, and one syncro
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Re: Restoring Rusty
hang in there, almost done, another snap ring, a clutch hub, the last synchro, and 2nd gear slide off
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Re: Restoring Rusty
and here i am giving you the shaft
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Re: Restoring Rusty
and here are all the bits that make up the main shaft from left to right or rear to the front of the vehicle
note the one shinny new synchro, getting lined up in parallel for replacement |
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Re: Restoring Rusty
next it was time to clean the old gasket residue off of the case
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Re: Restoring Rusty
it's wire wheelin' time
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Re: Restoring Rusty
goodness, how many sides does this thing have
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Re: Restoring Rusty
the tail housing also got some love
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and pretty soon I had transferred all the old gasket material on to my ol' favorite shirt
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just some random pics of all four new syncros, showing they all be the same
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Re: Restoring Rusty
Well you sure ain't no quitter.
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Re: Restoring Rusty
I'll second that!
Have a friend who just finished going through a cast iron 70s Mopar 4-speed, which is based on a 3-speed. That means 3rd gear is 1:1 and 4th is an overdrive gear where third would normally be on the countershaft and mainshaft. And like you, he had never done one before, but just dug in and got 'er done!
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thank you it's that small town farm boy tenacity, I remember one time my dad and I were wrenching in a carport of our 2 bedroom apartment, we were having a tough time with something, and I wanted to quit, and he said "and what are we going to do, cry about it?" and that was that, a boy became a man, ha ha
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Re: Restoring Rusty
Well done. If one thing racing taught me over the years is that just because you haven’t done it or seen it doesn’t mean you can’t do it.
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An old fart I worked for when I was a youngster told me "You can't get a patent on it. Guaranteed someone else already screwed that up the same way you did."
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No idea maybe the previous rebuilder forgot to put it back in cause I did not find it on the inside anywhere, you would think it would be stuck to the magnet.
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well before I realized the detent ball was missing I already removed the counter shaft so might as well walk you through it
I gotta be honest I was pretty intimidated about pressing this shaft out, but it turned out to be super easy and all I needed was a hammer the first two pics show a good view of the idler gear and how it slides side to side - this may be the smoking gun Last edited by Gregski; 07-28-2018 at 10:48 PM. |
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