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Old 05-23-2010, 02:16 PM   #551
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I'm always amazed when I see your progress pictures. You do some really cool work.
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Old 05-23-2010, 02:36 PM   #552
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wow nice solition to the problem , did you do any calculations on the lever part?
its pretty thick but i still have a fear it will flex a bit

you shouldve seen stuff i put together its stong enough to survive a nuclear blast
No, but my mental model tells me that the 5/8" studs will flex before the brackets. I'm going to upgrade to grade-8 before welding them to the rack.
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What the heck do you do for Intel anyway? Tool hookup? R&D?
Some awesome skills man, I am a little jealous.

*Thanks for the info about the driveline too, I need to get mine balanced on the Trailblazer and was not sure who to take it to. I'll call them on Monday.
I work at Intel for Applied Materials as an FSE. Intel is our customer and we are on site 24/7. I do tool installs, maintenance, repair, upgrades, etc.

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i love FF's drafting table. kinna looks like mine. but i don't make such purty drawings....

i'm surprised you didn't put the arms in and cycle the steering through the range of motion yet. man that thing is coming close to being done. then i'm sure tubby will get some lovin

FF keep up the awesome work. you never cease to amaze us. that's such an ingenious method of solving a steering issue. totally outside the box, but looks awesome and you still use the inner and outer tie rods. no clearance issues to the oil filter?
Funny thing is that we have a very nice drafting table, but I have no problem working on the floor occasionally. If I could keep my work surfaces clear... I've cycled the rack with the steering wheel, but not with the arms/spindles/wheels yet. Soon! I will have to shorten the tie rods when I make shortened arms. No issues with the filter.
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You work for Intel, FF? Pretty cool, I work for Sumco, which is a Silicon Supplier to Intel.
Everyone around here seems to be connected to Intel in one way or another.
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Hey FF, great job on the steering. One question, do you need a gusset on your right angle weld? I'm wondering about the lateral stress on that joint especially should a pothole jump in front of you.
I might gusset them. If I have enough room, depending on steering limits, I might add another tab and rod-support on the inboard side of the offset brackets.
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Old 05-23-2010, 02:37 PM   #553
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I'm always amazed when I see your progress pictures. You do some really cool work.
Thanks! Glad to share it
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Old 05-23-2010, 03:33 PM   #554
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Not me! I'm the lone holdout.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:00 AM   #555
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Man, you do great work!
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I work at Intel for Applied Materials as an FSE. Intel is our customer and we are on site 24/7. I do tool installs, maintenance, repair, upgrades, etc.
Pretty cool! Which toolset, Centura? Sumco is an epi house and I am an internal ASM Engineer and designed our batch epi reactors. Unfortunately, we are shutting the doors this year. Do you know Irwin Yablok? He is one of my friends and is an engineering manager at Intel.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:17 PM   #557
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Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

maibe he can help you put in a good word for a job at intel john seems like youre doing some pretty rocketsience type of job
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maibe he can help you put in a good word for a job at intel john seems like youre doing some pretty rocketsience type of job
Thanks! Unfortunately I am geographically challenged and am 2500 miles away from there.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:20 PM   #559
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FF, I don't know how to describe this. That car is simply amazing. The amount of shear talent and work you have put into that little car is astounding to think about. If I had half of your talent, I'd be gifted, lol.

I can't wait to see it finished!
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so ahem where's the progress?
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Pretty cool! Which toolset, Centura? Sumco is an epi house and I am an internal ASM Engineer and designed our batch epi reactors. Unfortunately, we are shutting the doors this year. Do you know Irwin Yablok? He is one of my friends and is an engineering manager at Intel.
ECP, UVision, and now Endura. AMAT is in the EPI market too Don't know Irwin.
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FF, I don't know how to describe this. That car is simply amazing. The amount of shear talent and work you have put into that little car is astounding to think about. If I had half of your talent, I'd be gifted, lol.
I can't wait to see it finished!
Thank you Sir! Can you believe I told my wife it would take a couple months? If it had just been an engine swap I may have been right...
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so ahem where's the progress?
I worked more on the rack today, building in some anti-rotation for the 5/8" bolts (pics will come later). Adapted the S2000 R&P boots to the Triumph rack. Re-installed the rack, the DS suspension, and a wheel. Cycled the steering from lock to lock. No issues at this point, but the arms will be about 2.5" shorter so we'll see then.

Started building the jig for the tube arms ...That's as far as I got today. Not really any great pic-worthy stuff. If I make any decent progress tomorrow you know I'll post em up! ...and don't call me ahem (Airplane).

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Old 05-25-2010, 01:24 PM   #562
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Amazing car and thread. Extended my lunch quite a bit to get through it. One of the coolest things I have ever looked at. Can't wait to see it running.
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Shirley you jest. Over.
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:18 PM   #564
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Roger, Roger...what's your vector, Victor?
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:23 PM   #565
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Definitely post pictures of the jig you build. Sometimes I like seeing that stuff as much as the finished product.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:39 AM   #566
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You guys are awesome

Here are some pics...

Oil filter clearance (note: old TR7/8 rack boot)


Bolt in tie rod socket. Needs anti-rotation mod:


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S2000 Rack boot made to fit via trimming and slight heat-gun application:


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Old 05-26-2010, 02:45 AM   #567
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Gittin jiggy wit it.

Found an old socket for the perfect ball-joint stand-in:






Though the support ring is not a perfect fit around the socket, it is positioned flush/level against the donor arm and will serve the purpose of positioning the new arm just fine:


Minus three inches:

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Old 05-26-2010, 03:29 AM   #568
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Nice!
I see you're taking your work home with you. I love that stuff for tool framing.

I sometimes miss working HP's Corvallis campus. So you wear full bunny suits too? Nothing like working in a class 10 cleanroom.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:57 AM   #569
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Those are pieces cut from an old shipping frame/jig from years ago that I thought "might be useful someday." Yep, full suit, hood to booties ...everyday
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Frizzle,
When you going to paint this thing. I hope you have lots of sheets and blankets to cover all that custom under the hood and suspention upgrades so the over spray dont hit it. Have you decided on a color for it yet?

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i think he's gonna wind up powdercoating anything he can unbolt suspension wise before blowing the car apart for paint.


FF, that jig you got was from like a rack/crate or something? that's almost like those radiators with the universal mount brackets. totally awesome. i wish i could come across "junk" like that. practical junk is there any offset built into the arms? or are they centered left to right? they look pretty straight. were you just going to cut it and weld it up? or make a totally tubular approach for light weight using the factory bushings and attachment points?
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When you going to paint this thing. I hope you have lots of sheets and blankets to cover all that custom under the hood and suspention upgrades so the over spray dont hit it. Have you decided on a color for it yet?

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If I read between the lines there it sounds a little like I should order up some paint and trailer it over to your shop? Actually, I plan to just paint the engine compartment ...and it will be empty when I do.
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FF, that jig you got was from like a rack/crate or something? that's almost like those radiators with the universal mount brackets. totally awesome. i wish i could come across "junk" like that. practical junk is there any offset built into the arms? or are they centered left to right? they look pretty straight. were you just going to cut it and weld it up? or make a totally tubular approach for light weight using the factory bushings and attachment points?
Yes, I will powdercoat anything I can fit in the oven, and probably have the larger cross members done professionally.

You'd be surprised what get's thrown away in the high tech industries...

There is a slight offset to the arms. I can't shorten them because they are cast. So yes, I will be building them out of 1" DOM. I initially planned to use the factory bushings but now I'm playing with the idea of using aftermarket stuff like Del-Shperes and/or Ballistic Fab parts:




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If I read between the lines there it sounds a little like I should order up some paint and trailer it over to your shop? Actually, I plan to just paint the engine compartment ...and it will be empty when I do.

Yes, I will powdercoat anything I can fit in the oven, and probably have the larger cross members done professionally.

You'd be surprised what get's thrown away in the high tech industries...

There is a slight offset to the arms. I can't shorten them because they are cast. So yes, I will be building them out of 1" DOM. I initially planned to use the factory bushings but now I'm playing with the idea of using aftermarket stuff like Del-Shperes and/or Ballistic Fab parts:




Mike,
No to the first and I cant believe your not going to do some crazy paint scheme on this radical little feet of Engineering Prowess. Dont you want them Mountain Racers to see you coming? We got the 69 Long Fleet painted and cleared and now we are on a marathon of putting it back together. Then comes my 56 short step. Here is a question for you, what would you recommend for a replacement front suspention on my 56? Not sure if I want to go with an IFS or a Clip. What would you recommend?

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No man, sleeper style!!!

On the 56, if it were mine I'd get in touch with Nate Porter and see what he has to offer. He's done a few 55-59's and will custom taylor to your specs (I know you don't like them too low...). Otherwise check with the 55-59 board.

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On the 56, if it were mine I'd get in touch with Nate Porter and see what he has to offer. He's done a few 55-59's and will custom taylor to your specs (I know you don't like them too low...). Otherwise check with the 55-59 board.
Thanks Mike

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