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Re: Frankentruck
Hopefully when you are next at home you can come visit and I hope to not only have my 70 Chassis Rolling but hope to have the 74 Burb driveable , got to get a few more parts hopefully tomorrow . Cant wait to see you and FrankenTruck .
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There's a couple things I want to do to Frankentruck next time I come home, and one of them will need a test drive once completed, so I'll for sure be stopping by
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Uh oh, had to wake up Frankentruck from a 2 month hibernation
The thermostat housing was a cheap one to get me by when the original one was too warped to seal. It had an O ring groove cut in it, and that was causing the gasket to not seal well. I finally replaced it with the new one I had bout over the summer. While I had the coolant drained, I also installed a new heater valve. I was always annoyed by the manual valve I had because I would either forget to turn it on or off depending on the season. The new valve is from a Ford because it was the only metal valve with the provisions to attach a cable to it that I could find. I had an unused cable on the heater controls, so hooked it to the valve and now I don't have to open the hood to turn the heat on. After that was done, I decided to make a bracket for my washer/coolant resivor. I used part of the driver's door I had cut out when I did the rust repair
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I didn't like how flimsy the sheet metal was, so I cut a strip out of a scrap floor pan to tie the front of the bracket to the mounting place. It made the bracket much stronger and fits right between the two resivors.
Painted it with some rust reformer so it matches the rest of the sheet metal under the hood and bolted it back in. The resivor does not flop around anymore, and I can put fluids in it without worrying about the two plastic tabs being the only thing holding it on and then breaking off
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Frankentruck made it back to Milledgeville today, but not without one issue...
I was in slow moving traffic on GA 400 waiting to get on I285. Up until then, the overdrive was working just fine. Once I got on 285 and back up to speed, I noticed it wasn't shifting at all into overdrive. Pulled off at the next exit, stopped at a gas station, popped the hood and checked to make sure the power wire was still plugged into the relay. It was, so I checked the fuse. The fuse had popped. Had to drive the rest of the way in lockout so the trip took longer, but at least I can still drive it. I'll have to look into it more in the next week or two. Got a couple exams coming up, so probably won't figure out what went wrong until those are done
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Re: Frankentruck
fuse popping usually will indicate a short somewhere...Im sure its a small fix....hopefully
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It probably is a small fix, I just hope it's not an expensive one. At least I can still drive the truck as a regular 3 speed. I don't really need overdrive around town anyways
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That's a bit of a problem
![]() New headlight switch is on the way, but for now, I gotta use hand signals
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Re: Frankentruck
I've been doing a lot of reading on these overdrives lately because I recently found one that I intend to put in my truck.
Regarding the blown overdrive fuse, I've read that a possible cause is that the solenoid is not switching from the "pull" coil in the solenoid to the "hold" coil, so it continues to draw the larger amount of initial amperage that the actuation requires. If that is the case, it should just be a simple adjustment of the contacts in the solenoid that disengage the "pull" coil to remedy the problem. Regards,
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That makes a lot of sense, and I could easily see that that might be my problem. Last time I had the solenoid out, I noticed that the contact points were in very poor condition. That solenoid really needs to be rebuilt, so I'm probably going to get that done in the spring. I did test the solenoid in the other trans I picked up back in September. It works good, so I might just swap them out and keep driving the truck
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Got the new switch in today, and that didn't fix my problem.
Turns out the fuse block/wiring harness I purchased a couple years back had a rubber sleeve over the power wire for that circuit. I also apparently have enough of a leak for water to get inside that rubber and sit. The connector completely corroded and broke off which is why I no longer had lights. A new connector and Frankentruck is back in business!
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I noticed that the valve covers were leaking a couple days ago, so I picked up some new gaskets and stuck them on today. Underneath doesn't look too bad.
Also found out that the heads I have are 3814480. 60-67 283/327 heads. Nothing special, but they get the job done. After the valve cover gaskets were done, I spent some more time adjusting the passenger door. It still was a bit too hard to close for my liking, so this time, I also adjusted the wedge piece on the door that locates the back of the door in the door jamb. That made a huge difference and now both door close fairly easily for old doors with somewhat worn latch components. Last thing for today was to crawl under the truck and check the overdrive solenoid. I still have not been able to keep the solenoid seal from leaking, so all the contact points and such inside the solenoid are covered in a layer of gear oil. I think that's why the fuse blew on me because I put a new fuse in and cleaned off as much of the oil as I could get to (need to get some brake clean ![]()
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I don't remember if I posted this information in a prior post, but here's the engine info.
Block is 3789935. The front stamp is F0525D. Heads are both 3814480. Heads say E242 (I'm guessing that's the date code for the heads). On the engine I pulled out of the truck, the block is 3849852. Front stamp is F0222WA. I don't have the numbers on the heads at the moment. I seem to be getting conflicting info about the block in the truck. Apparently 3789935 is a 61-62 283, but the front pad with the D says it's either a 58 or 60 block. Maybe the information I was looking at is not complete?
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Regarding your problem with the overdrive solenoid seal leaking, I was wondering if you have changed both the shaft seal in the solenoid and the one in the body of the overdrive unit.
If so, where did you source your seals, and how difficult was it to replace the one in the solenoid? Regards,
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3789935 1961-66 283 only 170-315 2 passenger, corvette Here is the link where I found it Link: http://chevy-camaro.com/chevy-camaro...es.php?group=1 .
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Unfortunately, the seal part on the solenoid is not serviceable. Mine is damaged, and the contact points are starting to get worn fairly bad, so I plan on sending it off to get rebuilt probably in the spring. I do have a second solenoid that seems to have a good seal on the unit itself, so I might try swapping that in and seeing if the leak continues.
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Looks like I have a "Corvette" engine though ![]()
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I got the OD transmission solenoid seal from VanPelt Sales, Batavia OH 513-724-9486 vanpeltsales.com
Extremely helpful folks and the new seal was identical to the old seal by using caliper to measure. |
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That seal looks exactly like the National seal I tried the first time, but it did not work. Could be user error though on both seals I've tried
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Thanks for the info on where you sourced your solenoid seal. I have purchased a solenoid shaft seal from Vintage Auto Garage PN 07410S. Looks pretty similar to the SKF seal that you had.
BTW, I also purchased a molded rubber governor cover from them that appears to be pretty good quality and provides some weather protection for the governor. https://www.vintageautogarage.com/ .
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Daily driver status means bringing down the property values wherever I park. Last night's location was Sonic
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Christian , I think you have that backwards , You upped the property values by parking it there .
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Definitely upped the style points for sure. People should use their old trucks as daily drivers more often. It's a ton of fun!
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Cool pic at the Sonic.
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