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Re: Project "Popeye"
Great looking truck, glad you're getting to enjoy it a bit. Can't wait to see how the EFI does for you.
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Thanks! Got the easy stuff done today on the FiTech, the whole deal is honestly really simple. I ordered the remaining -6AN fittings and hose I need for the fuel system install, that's proving to be hardest part and mainly because I wanted to do it my way. I am modifying the coolant temp sensor to fit in the 5.3 head. I have a customer who has a lathe turning it down from 3/8npt to 12mmx1.5 thread. That will save the time and trouble of drilling/tapping the head. I can't put it in the water pump because my gauge sensor is already there.
It looks like I will have it buttoned up with about three hours into it if all goes well, and most of that will be in the fuel system.
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Hey Leevon, looks good sitting there. Can't wait for your review. Hope to order mine next week...Jim
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Jim, congrats on that decision. So far I have nothing but positive feedback. I am taking notes for you. // Leevon
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Re: Project "Popeye"
The FiTech units come with one oxygen sensor. I removed the passenger exhaust downpipe to install a sensor bung. They supply a nice clamp-on one, but I wanted something more permanent. I also needed the exhaust out of the way for the fuel system re-work, so it made sense to do this on the "bench". Drill 7/8, clean the hole, weld, cool down, test fit, good to go!
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Leevon, I also plan on a welded bung for 02 sensor. My son Mark welds in all bungs for his LS 5.3 changes...Jim
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Fired it up! I still have to button up terminations on a couple of wires...ended up with only three total since I'm not using their fuel or fan control.
The fuel system is a Walbro 255 with a Wix 33737 return style regulator. I bought it through Speedway which they sell as an LS swap kit with AN fittings and the mounting kit. Everything on the pressure side of the pump to the FiTech unit I ran -6AN. I'm using the feed line from the botton of the tank to the pump and return through the bottom of the cab to the feed tube of a '54 up style sending unit in my tank. I did have to buy 6' of -6AN braided hose and 4 AN hose ends, so I have about $270 into the fuel system total including the pump, regulator, hose and new sending unit. Since I already had an electric pump, the wiring was all in place. There were no leaks on my test run and the pump is so quiet I can hear fuel running through the return line in the cab. Started on the first bump of the key and watched it learning the fuel trims and dialing in the AFR. I think I am going to like this alot!
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Re: Project "Popeye"
awwwwwsuuummm.
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Hey Leevon, my unit to be delivered tomorrow. pump stuff on back order until 10/3. You said that you are using the Wix return style regulator. Does this mean you DO NOT need to run the return line from the unit? You only have the fuel line to unit with no return? This sounds like a better way to go, and I may stop my order on the fuel pump stuff...Jim
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Re: Project "Popeye"
that sounds great, glad i went this route. Can't wait until i'm at that point of my build.
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Re: Project "Popeye"
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He returned what he had for a refund (he's had the TB for 6wks now).
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Sound like I may cancel my pump order, and go the way Leevon is doing. Will call tomorrow, will let you guys know...Jim
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Re: Project "Popeye"
I talked to my buddy about this. He was set on running their full set-up to avoid the 'because you have this part' syndrome if it doesn't work correctly.
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As long as you supply 58 psi with enough volume to the FiTech it does not care where it comes or how it gets there. They supply a block-off fitting for the return in the kit. Feed is on the driver's side, return is on passenger. You will still need a return from the filter regulator to your tank but it will be much shorter this way, whereas returning from their unit requires more line and use of AN fittings and line which is expensive. I am not sure about warranty concerns...but I tell you what if they voided my warranty because of that it would be a long painful discussion. You can definitely do it this way, many people have and their techs seem to have no issue with it. I did get slightly irritated because one guy on tech support last week encouraged me to leave the wiring my way, and another today kind of berated me over it. So I DO recommend using their fuel control wiring and programming, because it allows full control of the pump. I have mine traditionally wired, which is 100% duty cycle, full voltage all the time with key on. This is fine but there are benefits to doing it their way. I just already had it wired through my new Haywire fuse panel with integral relay.
I buttoned everything up today and did some more tweaking. Have not been for a drive yet because of a trans leak...but will be very shortly. Had trouble with no-start and after several calls to tech and some troubleshooting they had me me re-calibrate the unit. I suspect that was from turning it on and off without the key. But it's working great. Got the idle set. Seemed rich, a quick adjustment to 14.0 AFR leaned out the idle appropriately. Awesome stuff. Tons of PIDS to look at and plenty of input for a base unit. Guess what? There is an A/C idle input! The website and marketing literature says the GO Street basic unit does not have this...I almost returned the unit and got the next one because of this feature alone. Well, now I'm ready to add A/C. There are a ton of other adjustments for fan speed, idle control, etc. that make this a no-brainer for any street car or daily driver. Friend asked me why it doesn't have cruise control and honestly I can't see why not? I will give a full install download after some driving soon! Jim I will give you a call this weekend.
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Way cool!
It's gonna be real hard to justify a standard carb with these getting so reasonable and user friendly.
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Leevon, thanks will be ready for your call. When you call remind me about the cruise control I added to my pickup, its in my build thread 4 or 5 pages from the end. Great unit and not that expensive...Jim
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Had a little setback with my FiTech install but it's all done. I had a restriction in the feed line which burned up my fuel pump on the first drive. There was a piece of silicone from the new fuel tank that worked its way down into the drain petcock. It's all fixed now, I just had to wait on another pump since Walbro 255's are not an off-the-shelf part. It's running great. My post-install observations are:
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Re: Project "Popeye"
very very cool...
Like you said, I'm not sure i'd go this route for an LS swap if you already had everything but if you can find a heck of a deal on a long block, this a viable option. I still think its cool seeing Popeye out on the road. ![]() |
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Hey Leevon, sorry for a late Thank you, but thanks for the call on Sunday about your hookup. My fuel filter/regulator pump will be here on Friday. So then I can start mapping out my plan for the install. So glad yours is running good, and thanks for the video...Jim
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Any updates after the FITech install?
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I've got about 150 miles on it, it has some flat spots and lean issues. I'm also only getting 84% throttle position despite having full pull from the pedal. Since I wired the fuel pump through the unit, it does not start cold on the first turn of the key. I have not had time to talk through this stuff with their tech line. If I can't resolve this these issues, they won't be deal breakers but minor disappointments. It is still way better than a carb but on an LS engine it is a compromise since factory fuel injection is so reliable. I also have to remember that a single plane intake may not be the best application (but it looks cool, right). I have already thought about putting this on my '71 and going with an aluminum LS1 intake (like Pro-Flo), throttle body and stock computer on this truck. But that would only be after all the tweaks are done and lots of miles and if I'm still not satisfied. For now, we're good. Last weekend I went to a local car show here in Springfield, the truck got lots of attention. People kept walking by and looking at the engine, then doing a double-take and scratching their heads and coming back. I told one guy it's an LS '51
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That looks great, any chance for a vid???
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Re: Project "Popeye"
Looking good Lee, sorry to hear about the flat spot and lean issues. Mine is working great, goes alot better with the fuel injection compared to the old carb. Wish I could advise on what to do, but I'm also a beginner...Jim
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Re: Project "Popeye"
glad to hear its atleast working pretty well so far. Personally I can't stand hearing people whining about cold start! ON the contrary I get hot starts that drive me nuts (carb not fitech). anyway hope you iron out the little things, which is what hotrods are all about. there will be something that needs addressed on any build.
What trans you have now? I remember you were going with the manual trans, but decided auto. I plan to use the 4l60E with a stand alone unit on the carbed LS build. Hoping it works out ok.
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Sure, what kind of video?
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