53 Surburban "Family Truckster"

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

I like those adapters with the covers. And your truck! Thanks for sharing the pic's.

Wife and I were in Columbus that Friday for work. Marc was being a good guy, texting me to convince us to join in. Yeah, We should've...just too much to do at home. Thanks again Marc!

Some day we will meet....careful what you wish for..
Oh and you should have joined in if it makes you feel better..

Marc

[youngrodder]

I had to head to Chicago today for work. I stopped off at Lane Automotive located in Watervallet, MI. It is a small parts distribution center similar to Summit Racing. Best part is my friend that owns Dutchboys hotrods put me on their account as an employee so I get a discount on most things I buy....

I picked up my hooker exhaust manifolds and an Ididit steering column. Thanks Doug for figuring out what length column I needed (32").

The steering looks to be a challenge. Doug how well does yours snake past the manifolds?

Marc

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

I picked up my hooker exhaust manifolds and an Ididit steering column. Thanks Doug for figuring out what length column I needed (32").

The steering looks to be a challenge. Doug how well does yours snake past the manifolds?

Marc

Marc,

I moved my column a little to the left, aligning with the center of the gauges. That allows a pretty straight shot down to the rack as I recall.

[lower50's]

Nice parts!! Do those manifolds flow close to what headers flow? Or just fit better?

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Marc,

I moved my column a little to the left, aligning with the center of the gauges. That allows a pretty straight shot down to the rack as I recall.

In talking with Nate from PB Fab it sounds like I will need a 2 piece. Shaft. He is also working on a bracket for a carrier bearing. It looked to me like I would have to go the two piece route. He did say the angle isn't really steep.

Originally Posted by lower50's

Nice parts!! Do those manifolds flow close to what headers flow? Or just fit better?

I would say yes on both accounts. With the stock F body manifolds on the passenger side I would have needed to clearance the frame rail to fit. These fit fine without modifications..

Marc

[youngrodder]

I put some time in on the Suburban this weekend. I started by installing my Accuair sensors. I was left with more questions than answers so I decided to make some calls to figure things out.

I moved to the back and after looking at how many places the rear wheels and axle hit the body I decided to remove my inner wheel tubs. this allowed the body to sit flat on the frame. I really want to run 22" rims but after seeing the limitations of the rear fender area I'm not sure that is possible. I have not given up yet though.

I decided to mount up some body panels to see how everything else fits. I moved to the fenders. A lot of this stuff is coming back to me from my 48. The front fenders have some tabs that stick down. By trimming these off flush you can lay out farther. I also hammered over the inner fender edges again at an attempt to gain more clearance. A lot of people probably think that this is crazy but it all adds up to create clearance where you can.

The other frustrating thing I determined this weekend is that the ZR2 rear-end is too wide. My wheels have crazy positive offset and with the rear fenders bolted on there is still not much room. I will have to narrow the rear-end. I need to figure out by how much. In hind site I should have stuck with my 67 Nova rear end. I think that is also what Chizzler used on his. Oh well.

Here are some pics. Oh that is my son Cooper clowning in the one photo.

[youngrodder]

More....Oh tomorrow I have work off and my wife and I are shipping our boys off to a really nice camp for the week. My wife says "hey boys you know what you dad is going to be doing all week while you are away....working on the Suburban".....She knows me too well.

The inside of the fenders look rusty in the pics but it is actually undercoating flaking off. They are in better shape than they look.

Marc

Marc

[mongocanfly]

Looking good Marc

[Advanced Design]

Your Burb does look good laid out Marc. Too bad the rear is too wide, though like you said it can be narrowed. Just more work and money...

Man, those fenders are really solid!

[oldman3]

Looking good...Jim

[CHIZZLER]

Hey marc. My tire size is a 6.70-15. conversion charts show it as A 205/75/15-215/70/15. Hope that helps. Burb is looking great.Keep at it.

[Coach529]

Looks great!!

[reaper71]

Looks really slick slammed on the ground!!

Mark...

[68basket]

Great looking suburban!! I am looking at trading for a 1950 suburban and was checking out your build when i saw a picture of my engine. I am glad i was an inspiration on the look of your ls. I am liking how yours is looking.

[Eagletucky]

Awesome progress!!!

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by mongocanfly

Looking good Marc

Thank you

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Your Burb does look good laid out Marc. Too bad the rear is too wide, though like you said it can be narrowed. Just more work and money...

Man, those fenders are really solid!

Thanks Doug. I still need to roll the edges of the front fenders. One rear fender I had ot add a lower section where the running board mounts..

Originally Posted by oldman3

Looking good...Jim

Thanks Jim

Originally Posted by CHIZZLER

Hey marc. My tire size is a 6.70-15. conversion charts show it as A 205/75/15-215/70/15. Hope that helps. Burb is looking great.Keep at it.

Thank you Chizzler. I'm going to try to fit a 29" wheel...I might need hot butter and a crowbar.

Originally Posted by Coach529

Looks great!!

Thank you

Originally Posted by reaper71

Looks really slick slammed on the ground!!

Mark...

Thanks Mark....I seem to like anything that is on the ground.

Originally Posted by 68basket

Great looking suburban!! I am looking at trading for a 1950 suburban and was checking out your build when i saw a picture of my engine. I am glad i was an inspiration on the look of your ls. I am liking how yours is looking.

Yes, I saw you were looking at Thomas Tuckers old Suburban. It is one of my all time favorites. Although I have never seen pictures of the inside. I would be interested in seeing the rear notch area. On mine I will run all three rows of seats which will be another challenge to pull off.

Originally Posted by Eagletucky

Awesome progress!!!

Thanks brother....I have been following your suburban build...

Marc

[youngrodder]

OK after speaking with Travis at AZ Pro Performance as well as Accuair I got my questions about mounting the sensors figured out. What worked good for me was to double side tape the sensor where I thought that I wanted to mount them and then take my measurements to confirm that I had the right range of motion. This worked great. The Accuair tech told me that the mounting of the sensors is the most difficult part of the install. This is cool because I got the front and rear mounted

I typically spend money on items that are clean and help and install go easier...In this case I purchased ride sensor mounts by Choppin Block from Travis at Pro Performance. They are billet aluminum and really make mounting of the sensor quite a bit easier. I love how clean the install looks.

On to the pics

Marc

[lower50's]

That will look sick driving down the rd. Love the clamps I will be adding ride height some day.

[69CST-V]

Mounting looks clean...I'm going to borrow this in the near future...easier to ask for forgiviness, then to beg for permission... or something like that. LOL

[Advanced Design]

Ok, those clamps are on my shopping list. Thanks for the share Marc.

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by lower50's

That will look sick driving down the rd. Love the clamps I will be adding ride height some day.

Thanks Lower. This is my first experience with Accuair or ride height sensors.

Originally Posted by 69CST-V

Mounting looks clean...I'm going to borrow this in the near future...easier to ask for forgiviness, then to beg for permission... or something like that. LOL

No secrets here. If I were worried about others barrowing ideas I wouldn't have started a build thread...Its all good, that's why this site rocks...

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Ok, those clamps are on my shopping list. Thanks for the share Marc.

They are not cheap ($18 ea - I think) but they are sturdy, they look plastic but are painted billet aluminum.

Marc

[youngrodder]

OK, so one of the things that I wondered about with the size of the notch is can I run all three rows of seats. Not many people that are building them to layout are using all three seats.

Today I took one step closer to figuring it out. I had to cut 26" out of the center of the wood floor to clear the notch. The front mounts are fine. It looks like the rear seat will either have to move backward some or I will have to cut off/modify the legs of the rear seat.. If you look closely to can see the oval shapes where the legs mount to the floor. the rear only has two showing. the other two were 5" into the area that I cut out.

Here is a pic of the wood temporarily in place so I can fit the seats to see what modifications are necessary. I'm pretty excited to see it will most likely be possible.

The other thing that is cool is that if this truck is 1/2" off the ground it rolls very easily. My 48 will not roll smoothly this low. I need to keep this in mind when I reinstall the fenders to make sure it always rolls smoothly.

Thanks
Marc

[84blaze]

Are you replacing the wooden floor with metal?

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by 84blaze

Are you replacing the wooden floor with metal?

No I will be replacing the wood with new wood. What I'm doing here is strictly for mock up purposes. The idea I have in my head is using some cool distressed wood intended for the home. I would install a thinner plywood sheet and then make up the difference with the decorative wood. I can tell you, the original floor was a chore to remove without cutting into a punch of pieces. I can put my wood back in smaller sections because of the notch so it is easier. I do like how clean and sealed Doug's turned out though.....I have not figure out what I want to do for a notch cover yet (steel or wood).

Marc

[youngrodder]

I started fitting the middle row and back row seats to see what modifications are needed. The middle seat is fine as is. For those of you that don't know, these middle seats are hard to come by. They are narrower than the rear seat and they are mounted to the left hand side to provide access by the passengers to the rear seat. For the rear seat I will most likely need to remove the legs and come up with some way to attach the front of the seat to the notch and then fab up some new rear legs. I might even narrow the seat 3"-4" to provide more room for wheel tubs. The watts link is killing me for rear seat placement......more to come, I need to stare at it a while longer before I start cutting.

Marc